UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

[Old Pio]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

If you would've watched this game(since I believe you watched yesterdays) you'd be saying differently hopefully. If not I dunno what to say O_O

I believe that two teams decide the game as well but if you watched tonight's game you'd see that, that didn't happen. Like I said, even DU fans aren't refuting yet here you are.

And if you are trying to insinuate that I was one to leave you a neg rep you are wrong.

If this were a mirror image series, I'd be fuming too. And while I said the Sioux got the short end of the stick from the zebras, it wasn't a huge imbalance. I'm assuming Sioux posters thought two PP goals in the first had nothing to do with the officials, just a matter of justice, nothing more. The Sioux need to look to themselves for unnecessary, stupid penalties. So it's a two edged sword, IMO. What really brings the officiating into focus is the no goal call at the end. Ironically, it was probably the easiest call of the night. An obvious kick, period.

 

[SiouxFanatic]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

If this were a mirror image series, I'd be fuming too. And while I said the Sioux got the short end of the stick from the zebras, it wasn't a huge imbalance. The Sioux need to look to themselves for unnecessary, stupid penalties. So it's a two edged sword, IMO. What really brings the officiating into focus is the no goal call at the end. Ironically, it was probably the easiest call of the night. An obvious kick, period.

No question about that. Towards the end of the 2nd the Sioux were taking very clear stupid and dumb penalties. But you could say that was a result of the frustration that was building up. =/ There were a couple more in the 3rd period as well.

And as the no goal call. Indeed, the easiest call for them. I knew it wasn't a goal right when they showed the overhead replay.

 

[dubbie31]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

No need to respond to the troll.
He only comes around at the end of the game to gloat, and yet he didn't even watch the game.
He must still be testy about his #1 team tying the last placed CCHA team.
Hopefully UND can take care of business next weekend against OSU and Miami.

Go Sioux!

Even I'll admit that Denver was helped....and I was LISTENING to the game as I am still at work waiting for people to leave as I need beer.

I still enjoyed it. No dasher dancing OR birds!!!

 

[A Shot and a Goal]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

A few thoughts after the conclusion of the series.

These were two evenly matched teams. There were six goals scored in the series. All the goals were power plays goals. There wasn't a single equal strength goal scored, which shows how evenly matched the teams were when playing four on four or five on five. No one's plus/minus budged. Denver scored all its goals in the second period.....one on Friday and three tonight. North Dakota came in to the series having allowed only four PPG thus far. Denver scored four PPG in the series, including three in a seven and a half minute span in the second period tonight.

Both teams had stretches during the weekend when it carried the play to the other team, but both teams showed strengths in many areas of the game. Denver and North Dakota should both do well throughout the remainder of their schedules.

 

[du78]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

The refs actually got the both no goal calls right this weekend. Clearly tonight the puck was kicked in. The replays all showed it. Kyle Ostrow after the game said he had the UND player's stick tied up and that the puck hit the UND player in the chest and dropped to his feet. That is when he kicked it in the net.

Friday night the no goal call on the DU potential second goal was a good call in that the original call was no goal. There was nothing on any of the replays that could prove the puck crossed the goal line before the net was dislodged. There is no doubt that the puck found the back of the net but it was impossible to tell when it crossed the line as it was under the goalie's pad which was both in and outside the net.

 

[omahasioux1]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

The refs actually got the both no goal calls right this weekend. Clearly tonight the puck was kicked in. The replays all showed it. Kyle Ostrow after the game said he had the UND player's stick tied up and that the puck hit the UND player in the chest and dropped to his feet. That is when he kicked it in the net.

Friday night the no goal call on the DU potential second goal was a good call in that the original call was no goal. There was nothing on any of the replays that could prove the puck crossed the goal line before the net was dislodged. There is no doubt that the puck found the back of the net but it was impossible to tell when it crossed the line as it was under the goalie's pad which was both in and outside the net.

Correct.

 

[omahasioux1]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

Whaddya want? I've got UAA posters who want my nutz, give me a break.

Suze showing you some love?

 

[A Shot and a Goal]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

Correct.

Hey Omaha, Glad to hear your daughter and her team did so well.

Good series this wekend. The Pioneers and Sioux both showed strengths in may areas of the game. Refs called a very tight game tonight and stayed with that trend throughout the game from first minute to last.

One aspect of Denver's play that surprised me was how much ice time the fourth line saw each night. GG never plays all four lines--regularly--during the course of a game. He always uses the fourth line sparingly. That wasn't the case this weekend. I'll wait to see if that trend continues, but I'm not counting on it.

Have a good rest of the weekend.

 

[omahasioux1]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

I am glad I gave up my club seats.

 

[brianvf]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

One aspect of Denver's play that surprised me was how much ice time the fourth line saw each night. GG never plays all four lines--regularly--during the course of a game. He always uses the fourth line sparingly. That wasn't the case this weekend. I'll wait to see if that trend continues, but I'm not counting on it.

It looked like he was trying to match them up against UND's 4th line. That UND 4th line generated good chances for the Sioux last night, and was probably consistently one of their best lines all game.

 

[Chris]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

****ing cheaters. that's the biggest travesty i've ever seen in my life! you're only allowed to look at the overhead, they looked at other views, not allowed. then the official made his decision and the ****ing linesman goes to look at it?!

Dude, there are multiple angles at the refs' disposal for replays. One of the duties of the off-ice replay official is to recommend which angle shows more clearly what is being reviewed, they just can't give an opinion. So, what you said is very, very inaccurate.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

Dude, there are multiple angles at the refs' disposal for replays. One of the duties of the off-ice replay official is to recommend which angle shows more clearly what is being reviewed, they just can't give an opinion. So, what you said is very, very inaccurate.

No, there aren't. All they get is overhead. The NHL may get extra angles, but not in the NCAA...not every arena is equipped for multiple angles, therefore no one can use multiple angles.

 

[dubbie31]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

No, there aren't. All they get is overhead. The NHL may get extra angles, but not in the NCAA...not every arena is equipped for multiple angles, therefore no one can use multiple angles.

Absolutely correct. I think it is in the rulle book as well that the camera angles have to be the same everywhere. The overhead camera is the only angle which it works at all arenas I think.

 

[cetihcra]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

No, there aren't. All they get is overhead. The NHL may get extra angles, but not in the NCAA...not every arena is equipped for multiple angles, therefore no one can use multiple angles.

nope.

per the ncaa hockey rulebook:
"all potential replay angles will be made available for review. All relevant personnel will be made aware of what replay angles are available."

page HR-101

r

 

[Chris]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

Absolutely correct. I think it is in the rulle book as well that the camera angles have to be the same everywhere. The overhead camera is the only angle which it works at all arenas I think.

OK, Dubbie.....What do you know????

I just happen to be the backup off-ice video replay official. Are you? Nope.

I am the only other person besides the normal video replay official even allowed into the room, besides top WCHA officials. Do you even know where the video replay room is? I doubt it...I didn't until this year.

Have you ever even seen the forms that have to be filled out each time a replay is done???? I have one right in front of me.

PLEASE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE POSTING TOTAL BS!!!!!!

So....

 

[Chris]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

No, there aren't. All they get is overhead. The NHL may get extra angles, but not in the NCAA...not every arena is equipped for multiple angles, therefore no one can use multiple angles.

OK. See my response to Dubbie31......

 

[duper]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

No need to respond to the troll.
He only comes around at the end of the game to gloat, and yet he didn't even watch the game.
He must still be testy about his #1 team tying the last placed CCHA team.
Hopefully UND can take care of business next weekend against OSU and Miami.

Go Sioux!

I have a friend who is a Miami season ticket holder who used to post, but basically gave up on it because the Miami posters on the board are a joke. It's a shame, really, because most of the Miami fans I have met in person are pretty cool.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

nope.

per the ncaa hockey rulebook:
"all potential replay angles will be made available for review. All relevant personnel will be made aware of what replay angles are available."

page HR-101

r

Must have changed then. That may have been the rule when it first came out. I stand corrected.

OK. See my response to Dubbie31......

I saw it. But, you may want to check the time stamps, as the post you quoted was made before your response to dubbie. And it's not like you took the time to look it up, cetichra did. Love the hostility though. You could be a Sioux fan with that type of overreaction...

That said, all angles SHOULD be used.

 

[Chris]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

Must have changed then. That may have been the rule when it first came out. I stand corrected.

I saw it. But, you may want to check the time stamps, as the post you quoted was made before your response to dubbie. And it's not like you took the time to look it up, cetichra did. Love the hostility though. You could be a Sioux fan with that type of overreaction...

That said, all angles SHOULD be used.

I don't have to "look it up", I have the instructions for off-ice video replay officials (since I am one), which was given to me at the beginning of the season. So, basically, I have direct knowledge of the process.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: UND @ Denver - Saturday 11/21/09

I don't have to "look it up", I have the instructions for off-ice video replay officials (since I am one), which was given to me at the beginning of the season. So, basically, I have direct knowledge of the process.

Not saying you're not...but, why should we take your word for it?