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UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
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Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
I guess I really am turning 40 this year as I loved that song back in the day!
Are we really in? I'm guessing a BU win tonight would help?
I guess I really am turning 40 this year as I loved that song back in the day!
Are we really in? I'm guessing a BU win tonight would help?
John_Fuller
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Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
Were you even alive when this song was popular??
I think for best results we have to be Terrier, Big Red, Wolverine, and Goof-er fans tonight....good Lord, I think I may have to go to confession this week.
Were you even alive when this song was popular??
I think for best results we have to be Terrier, Big Red, Wolverine, and Goof-er fans tonight....good Lord, I think I may have to go to confession this week.
Patman
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Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
Here's the geekery on this... the winner of the WCHA will be in the top 10 of pairwise, the winner of Hockey East will be in the top 10 of pairwise. The only realistic way to get to PWR=13 or PWR=14 was if Providence because a team under consideration... that ONLY occurs if Providence wins Hockey East as their RPI>=.5 in that case. Since those things didn't happen UML is highly unlikely (that is to say, I don't know enough) to finish with a PWR of 13 and they can't end at 14... and since at most 3 teams will come outside of the top 13 UMass-Lowell has clinched a NCAA tournament slot.
I'm not going to go through the things to figure out if there is an out. I'd have a hard time believing there is one.
The rest is seeding... we no longer care if Cornell wins... in fact, we don't want that to happen. WMU losing tomorrow would help. Maine losing would help. Avoiding the bottom would be nice to avoid some of the big teams as a #4 seed.
As for location... still pretty random... and that won't be clear until some of the early Saturday returns (if there are any). Speculation as to where and who we'll play is just that.
Here's the geekery on this... the winner of the WCHA will be in the top 10 of pairwise, the winner of Hockey East will be in the top 10 of pairwise. The only realistic way to get to PWR=13 or PWR=14 was if Providence because a team under consideration... that ONLY occurs if Providence wins Hockey East as their RPI>=.5 in that case. Since those things didn't happen UML is highly unlikely (that is to say, I don't know enough) to finish with a PWR of 13 and they can't end at 14... and since at most 3 teams will come outside of the top 13 UMass-Lowell has clinched a NCAA tournament slot.
I'm not going to go through the things to figure out if there is an out. I'd have a hard time believing there is one.
The rest is seeding... we no longer care if Cornell wins... in fact, we don't want that to happen. WMU losing tomorrow would help. Maine losing would help. Avoiding the bottom would be nice to avoid some of the big teams as a #4 seed.
As for location... still pretty random... and that won't be clear until some of the early Saturday returns (if there are any). Speculation as to where and who we'll play is just that.
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Hopefully the Hawks stay on the east coast.
Harvard 2-0 over Cornell, 7:00 minutes to go in the first.
Were you even alive when this song was popular??
I think for best results we have to be Terrier, Big Red, Wolverine, and Goof-er fans tonight....good Lord, I think I may have to go to confession this week.
Hopefully the Hawks stay on the east coast.
Harvard 2-0 over Cornell, 7:00 minutes to go in the first.
Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
Thanks for that. I guess it's time to relax and wait for the selection show on Sunday.
Thanks for that. I guess it's time to relax and wait for the selection show on Sunday.
bottomdweller
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Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
Pat, if Lowell ends up a 4 seed, would they most likely stay local? Just not in same region as BC?
Pat, if Lowell ends up a 4 seed, would they most likely stay local? Just not in same region as BC?
Patman
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Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
Oof... inclination... no...
The way its been looking... and I'm not sure right now... but it looks like the most likely case is that there will be 3 western teams at the top. We will not play Boston College in the first round. So the question is "can Lowell help attendance"? the stark answer is no... even if we could pull it off the impression is there... but that being said, if Bridgeport lacks eastern teams you could very well see a swap... it depends on how "easy" a swap would be on bracket integrity. It should also be noted that there will likely be two CCHA teams at the bottom. In the end we're probably the weakest attendance situation if you compare two eastern teams together.
Other possibilities... BU wins out and they're in bridgeport... certainly going west.
Best hope... don't be a four seed. Don't end up directly against Minnesota in a #2/#3... don't end up in Michigan's bracket. Pretty simple
edit: that being said, there is still way too much to happen.
Alright guys, I'm going to go get dressed and head out. I'll check in but unless I get bored I'm not going to work out every scenario.
Oof... inclination... no...
The way its been looking... and I'm not sure right now... but it looks like the most likely case is that there will be 3 western teams at the top. We will not play Boston College in the first round. So the question is "can Lowell help attendance"? the stark answer is no... even if we could pull it off the impression is there... but that being said, if Bridgeport lacks eastern teams you could very well see a swap... it depends on how "easy" a swap would be on bracket integrity. It should also be noted that there will likely be two CCHA teams at the bottom. In the end we're probably the weakest attendance situation if you compare two eastern teams together.
Other possibilities... BU wins out and they're in bridgeport... certainly going west.
Best hope... don't be a four seed. Don't end up directly against Minnesota in a #2/#3... don't end up in Michigan's bracket. Pretty simple
edit: that being said, there is still way too much to happen.
Alright guys, I'm going to go get dressed and head out. I'll check in but unless I get bored I'm not going to work out every scenario.
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Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
am I right in thinking we want BU to take the tourney and ND to beat Minnesota to push BU to a 1 seed so Lowell can get placed in the east or northeast? Because what we really want to avoid is Lowell, Maine and BU all being 2 or 3 seeds, because we'll definitely be the odd team out.
am I right in thinking we want BU to take the tourney and ND to beat Minnesota to push BU to a 1 seed so Lowell can get placed in the east or northeast? Because what we really want to avoid is Lowell, Maine and BU all being 2 or 3 seeds, because we'll definitely be the odd team out.
Patman
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Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
It'll be more about our opponent and bracket... draw opposite Minnesota or draw Michigan's bracket and that's where we'll end up... west.
Remember, Union and Cornell are also eastern teams.
It'll be more about our opponent and bracket... draw opposite Minnesota or draw Michigan's bracket and that's where we'll end up... west.
Remember, Union and Cornell are also eastern teams.
John_Fuller
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Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
Wow, Har-vahd with a four spot on Cornell.
Wow, Har-vahd with a four spot on Cornell.
leswp1
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Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
Have something I can't get out of for the selection thing at the exact time. Can't get out of work next week so after 16 yrs of waiting, (the last time I was hugely pregnant with Lil and unable to travel) we are finally going to the dance and I am missing it. Poop.OK. I can not have nice things.
Have something I can't get out of for the selection thing at the exact time. Can't get out of work next week so after 16 yrs of waiting, (the last time I was hugely pregnant with Lil and unable to travel) we are finally going to the dance and I am missing it. Poop.OK. I can not have nice things.
Yes but we can play them in a 2/3 matchup, BU and Maine we coudn't and would have to be shipped out west.
Re: UML 2011-2012 Thread: Part II
I think she just said she couldn't get to the games ("finally going to the dance and I'm missing it").
Patman
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All that still says is that there is too much to happen yet.
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