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How did he look at lowell?
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UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
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How did he look at lowell?
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Sean
Coach Whitehead had a 61-73-9 (0.458) record in his 4 seasons at UML. However, at that time Lowell was was not committed to winning like Maine was. Coach Crowder was 114-96-21 (0.539) in the 5 seasons before and Coach MacDonald was 148-179-46 (0.458) in the 10 seasons after (he was 67-66-23 (0.503) his first 4 seasons and 81-86-25 (0.487) in his first 5 seasons). It was only when UML hired Coach Bazin that they also truly invested in the hockey program as UML's NCAA financials show. Maine has been investing a lot in hockey, especially in recruiting in 2014-15 & 15-16, but overall UML has spent more since Coach Bazin was hired.
Sean
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
UML is a totally different Program since the hiring of Bazin and there due diligence into the Program and Fans/etc. -- Hockey is important NOW @ UML.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Sean
I'm not sold on their fanbase. As I mentioned earlier Maine's average ticket price for 2016 was $11.57. According to UML information total ticket sale revenue for 2016 was just under $700,000, or an average ticket price of $6.55 based on total reported attendance.
Sean
NorthMike
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What is included in your "spending" for recruiting? Are you comparing the cost of travel to recruit or the offered packages that ncaa changed a few years back.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Bottom-line is this: Maine is in a death-spiral under Red. That much is clear. (They are already there, actually, and have been for a while now.)
No telling for sure if Tim would have kept them relevant, but I seriously doubt that he would've done worse than Red.
Whatever currency Maine used to have is already spent. Our Bears are kinda like Clarkson... A nice past past and no future in sight.
Bottom-line is this: Maine is in a death-spiral under Red. That much is clear. (They are already there, actually, and have been for a while now.)
No telling for sure if Tim would have kept them relevant, but I seriously doubt that he would've done worse than Red.
Whatever currency Maine used to have is already spent. Our Bears are kinda like Clarkson... A nice past past and no future in sight.
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Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Its what it use to be...and now it isn't no more.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
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How would Tim get maine out of the death spiral when he started it.? I don't believe anyone thinks Red is doing better, the W L record clearly shows otherwise. Unless they can find a coach to breathe new life into the program, Maine hockey is a bottom feeder. It was fun while it lasted
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Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Sean
It's not my spending, it's the schools' spending as reported to the NCAA. As for what can be spent on recruiting the NCAA report's instructions say: "Input transportation, lodging and meals for prospective student*-athletes and institutional personnel on official and unofficial visits, telephone call charges, postage and such. Include value of use of institution's own vehicles or airplanes as well as in-kind value of loaned or contributed transportation."
Sean
They said they did. I'm not very disappointed. The only thing I care about is the success of the team.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Maybe Maine can take a look at what Northern Michigan did yesterday and hired GRANT POTULNY, a young assistant @ Minnesota...he has experience in the College Hockey playing ranks (Minnesota)...played some AHL hockey, worked as a Assistant Coach in the World Juniors, both times the USA won the Gold Medal...and is still a young man @ 37....a man with NO TIES to NMU, but a young and coming Coach that all he needed was a place to hang his hat. Time will tell on this hire but a recipe Maine should..."IF/When"...there are changes @ Maine. I have a name that could interest many teams...UMass-Lowell's Cam Ellsworth, top assistant to Norm Bazin...and he is also the goaltending coach @ UML...a big sore spot for Maine...oh well just throwing it out...anyone else out there have IDEA's.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Sean
That sounds something like what Maine did when they hired some assistant coach named Shawn Walsh...
Sean
rufus
rock and roller
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Sure, cause it hadn't been that long since the team had been doing well, had been to the NCAA tournament. But they were in a downward spiral that's continued under Red. No wonder it's harder for Red to raise money than it was for TIMMAY. TIMMAY didn't have six or seven dismal seasons hanging over his head. Now, Red does, thanks in some degree to TIMMAY.
Sure, cause it hadn't been that long since the team had been doing well, had been to the NCAA tournament. But they were in a downward spiral that's continued under Red. No wonder it's harder for Red to raise money than it was for TIMMAY. TIMMAY didn't have six or seven dismal seasons hanging over his head. Now, Red does, thanks in some degree to TIMMAY.
Middle Street
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Cam does a great job, and in my opinion, is an underrated part of UML's recent success. It's surprising his name hasn't been mentioned given all of these vacancies. If Mel Pearson leaves Mich Tech for Michigan, I'm wondering if there would be mutual interest to have Cam take over that job. He's a Mich Tech alum.
Cam does a great job, and in my opinion, is an underrated part of UML's recent success. It's surprising his name hasn't been mentioned given all of these vacancies. If Mel Pearson leaves Mich Tech for Michigan, I'm wondering if there would be mutual interest to have Cam take over that job. He's a Mich Tech alum.
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Maine bid for 2020, 2021 and 2022
Maine bid for 2020, 2021 and 2022
BBDiehard14
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Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Which never happens if Steve Piotrowski keeps his whistle in his back pocket like he should have.......he shouldn't never been officiating that game after kicking Walsh out of what turned out to be his final game the year before
Which never happens if Steve Piotrowski keeps his whistle in his back pocket like he should have.......he shouldn't never been officiating that game after kicking Walsh out of what turned out to be his final game the year before
I saw that in the paper this morning. There are earlier reports that said they were bidding for the other two that were just awarded. Maybe they're just saving face?
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017
Maine gets 8 NLIs signed. Who knows but this class sounds ok.
http://www.goblackbears.com/news/20...-nli-signing-period.aspx#.WPZlGLYNQlA.twitter
Maine gets 8 NLIs signed. Who knows but this class sounds ok.
http://www.goblackbears.com/news/20...-nli-signing-period.aspx#.WPZlGLYNQlA.twitter
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