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UMaine 25-26: Marques My Word: Back to the Big Time
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grooverider
Your Team Sucks
Go back to your thread Robert Ballsack. As you clowns told me stay on my thread..why dont you do the same. PS- and suffer in your shit program, asswipe.
BlackBearHockeyFan
Active member
I hope that never happens again
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
double the salary and she might like the twin cities? Not much Maine can do about a Big10 team wanting their coach. Hopefully both of them like Maine but can't blame a guy for wanting to move up.
If we think the margin of error is thin and the expectations are high here, I can only imagine it's about 10x that at Minnesota. Motzko's resume as a head coach is lightyears ahead of Barr's at both St. Cloud and Minnesota with multiple conference titles, NCAA and Frozen Four appearances, final appearances etc. The only thing that has alluded him as a head coach is that National Championship. Motzko is a proven winner while Barr has shown signs of promise and has a potentially high ceiling, that ceiling is still unknown.
Professionally, has Barr "proven" himself to warrant a serious consideration? And from his perspective, what are the risk(s) associated with taking such a position with such high expectations and razor thin margin(s) of error? He could be back on the street before he knows it, then what, UNH? It is discussed here time and time again what Barr's desired team culture and makeup typically is, and that's not filled with talent, draft picks, etc. Would this be a good fit? Sure the promise of resources and NIL money would be nice at face value, but does that truly embody the types of teams Barr is seemingly trying to build? On paper, this year's Maine team is/was one of the most talented in recent history, but as I've harped on before, Barr was unable to make the necessary adjustments to mold them into a contender (goaltending aside). His coaching style doesn't seem to fit high skill and resulting high turnover.
Professionally, has Barr "proven" himself to warrant a serious consideration? And from his perspective, what are the risk(s) associated with taking such a position with such high expectations and razor thin margin(s) of error? He could be back on the street before he knows it, then what, UNH? It is discussed here time and time again what Barr's desired team culture and makeup typically is, and that's not filled with talent, draft picks, etc. Would this be a good fit? Sure the promise of resources and NIL money would be nice at face value, but does that truly embody the types of teams Barr is seemingly trying to build? On paper, this year's Maine team is/was one of the most talented in recent history, but as I've harped on before, Barr was unable to make the necessary adjustments to mold them into a contender (goaltending aside). His coaching style doesn't seem to fit high skill and resulting high turnover.
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walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Is he building that style of team because it will work at Maine? Not sure that means its the only style he thinks will work at UMinn where there is way more money and ease of getting elite type players. I remember a time when Minnie only recruited Minnesota players.
Valid question, unsure. The Carvel teams at uMass that he helped recruit were much of the same though.
Perhaps you're right and he is just a product of his environment.
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tony potter
Active member
ill suggest it ,,time to shit can baseball and softball i dont care how good baseball use to be ,they are not now spend all that money for them to head to warm climates year after year and they come home 2-20 or so season over before it gets started,, spend the money else where
tony potter
Active member
i dont think hes done enough yet as top dog to warrant the minnesota position
McGoverners
Well-known member
If we want to talk about programs to cut, what is the point of funding one of the worst basketball programs in the country?
At least baseball gives the University a spring sport to support
NorthMike
Well-known member
Softball is going nowhere! New facility just went in and they have had some success.
They have now begun bldg the 90 mil morse arena or whatever its called, that also doubles for supporting the football program and improving the football fan experience. More money than the old alfond got.
So you see where their priorities are.
Seems very tough to turn down an offer from the Goofers if they want him bad enough. Only time will tell, but Bennie seems like an eastern guy, or I should say, doesnt fit the mold of western coaches. He was blue collar player in college and I think prefers to work with guys willing to blue collar it. Not sure the prima donnas from the state of Minnesota want to work all that hard, lol.
I hope Barr is here until he retires. He has resurrected a program that was barely treading water for 15+ years. Yes, this year was disappointing - but for all the ups and downs Maine finished 5th and got a bye. It was an inexperienced team, in the first year of the CHL being open. I don’t know if there is anyone more upset and peeved about this season being underwhelming than Ben. Maine will be right back at it next year.
However, Minnesota is one of 8-9 programs in the nation that Barr is a legitimate threat to leave for. I think this is a reality we all knew Maine would have to face if and when Barr started succeeding.
BC
BU
Denver
North Dakota
Big Ten Schools
I think those schools have the financial backing to make Barr an offer he can’t refuse. Minnesota is probably (most likely) the only one of those positions that opens up in the next decade (things obviously can change).
IF Minnesota wants him, I think he would take it. We are talking a lot of money, a high revenue program, with the easiest recruiting hurdles in college hockey.
I think right now, it looks like Raboin. Ferschweiler, Carle, Leaman, Carvel are just so unrealistic for how much their buyouts would cost and how much Minnesota would have to pay them to move. Cashman at Dartmouth is doing a great job. But objectively, Barr has the better resume than Raboin and Cashman both as an assistant and head coach at the college hockey level (Raboin did a great job as an assistant recruiting at Minnesota - but again, you fall out of bed in Minnesota and have every kid in the state wanting to play there).
I think it’s Raboin from everything I can see. We will definitely see what happens. But I think I’ve prepared myself for this reality a long time ago and Minnesota would be wise to seriously consider Barr.
However, Minnesota is one of 8-9 programs in the nation that Barr is a legitimate threat to leave for. I think this is a reality we all knew Maine would have to face if and when Barr started succeeding.
BC
BU
Denver
North Dakota
Big Ten Schools
I think those schools have the financial backing to make Barr an offer he can’t refuse. Minnesota is probably (most likely) the only one of those positions that opens up in the next decade (things obviously can change).
IF Minnesota wants him, I think he would take it. We are talking a lot of money, a high revenue program, with the easiest recruiting hurdles in college hockey.
I think right now, it looks like Raboin. Ferschweiler, Carle, Leaman, Carvel are just so unrealistic for how much their buyouts would cost and how much Minnesota would have to pay them to move. Cashman at Dartmouth is doing a great job. But objectively, Barr has the better resume than Raboin and Cashman both as an assistant and head coach at the college hockey level (Raboin did a great job as an assistant recruiting at Minnesota - but again, you fall out of bed in Minnesota and have every kid in the state wanting to play there).
I think it’s Raboin from everything I can see. We will definitely see what happens. But I think I’ve prepared myself for this reality a long time ago and Minnesota would be wise to seriously consider Barr.
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I think this is just about the only opening that scares me regarding Barr staying at Maine. I think Maine for men's hockey is a program capable of being a "destination job", with its combination of historical success, recent return to relevance, huge fan support, strong conference membership, and recent investment and upgraded facilities. But the Gophers are a cream of the crop program without a doubt, and for a Minny guy, if they came calling it would be tough to turn down. As long as we survive this hiring process without him leaving, I think we're safe in terms of keeping Barr unless Maine tries to completely shaft him financially in a future contract offer.
grooverider
Your Team Sucks
Minnesota will buy out anyone they truly want they have deep pocket backers
grooverider
Your Team Sucks
I'm more worried about other than hockey reasons if Barr is their target