UConn 2014-2015: Let the Hockey East Era Begin

[J.D.]

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as tece davis said, smu won in front of "tens" of fans

 

[buoldtimer]

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Some reshuffling
WC-Alasks, AA, Denver, AF, CC, ASU, AH, NO
NC-BS, MD, MS, SCS, ND, MT, LSS, NM, FS, WM, Miami, BG
B1G-Mich, Minn, PSU, Wisc, tOSU, MSU, UConn, BU
HE-BC, ND, UMass, UVM, UNH, Maine, Prov, NE, Mer, UL
AH-RM, SHU, Army, Bent, AIC, RIt, Can, Mer, Niagara, URI(it's time)
ECAC- adds Holy Cross for 12

Why is the B1G interested in BU and not BC?

 

[J.D.]

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answer: they aren't

 

[Patman]

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Some reshuffling
WC-Alasks, AA, Denver, AF, CC, ASU, AH, NO
NC-BS, MD, MS, SCS, ND, MT, LSS, NM, FS, WM, Miami, BG
B1G-Mich, Minn, PSU, Wisc, tOSU, MSU, UConn, BU
HE-BC, ND, UMass, UVM, UNH, Maine, Prov, NE, Mer, UL
AH-RM, SHU, Army, Bent, AIC, RIt, Can, Mer, Niagara, URI(it's time)
ECAC- adds Holy Cross for 12

I see the drinking has started early

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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The drunk conference realignment posts from Dan are easily one of my favorite things on the interwebs.

ps - Dan, I think this is cruel when you realize there are people like Butchy around that are literally hanging on every last word from even lunatics like you on conference realignment. You just forced him to sit by the phone until 2018 waiting for Delany to call.

 

[BU2K]

Why is the B1G interested in BU and not BC?

Because our football team has been undefeated since 1997...

 

[HuskyfanDan]

Why is the B1G interested in BU and not BC?

BU-high research, 15k under, 15k post, 1+ endow, great hockey brand.

BC lacks over half those things.

The B1G wants like minded institutions to create a juggernaut money wise in sports, research and student population.

The deal is, if the B1G adds UConn, besides CT market wise they boost nyceye balls more which could lead to a higher charge per cable subscriber. As for Boston, UConn has a small base of alums and fans. By itself it's not enough to turn on all the cable boxes(base channel). So how do you get that? You add BU hockey. Take the amount of students, alums and fans of BU in the Boston market and add them to UConn base and all other alums and fans of the B1G in the Boston market and together that number represents a large enough percentage of the population that getting the B1G network on basic is doable. It happened in NYC and DC recently with MD and JHU. Same thing.

Why would BU move? Well I asume 9 out of 10 here would call me a terrorist for even getting this far but they don't understand big time sports and how money outside as well as inside sports matters.

What is BUs TV payout right now in HE? Right now each B1G hockey school makes 2mil off tv payouts for puck, it will get better with more markets added plus a new TV contract in 2017.

BU recently became AAU, very impressive. If they move to the B1G they can join the CIC which will boost them even more research wise.

A couple years ago on the Yard I wrote about BU being interested in this, it's a big move by them to upgrade the whole school. The research aspect was part one of it. The other part of it was that the Big East was eventually going to expand to 16 longterm. They were supposedly becoming good friends with the B1G and going to have other sports and basketball relationships to benefit the fact of geography and common ground among many of both leagues members.

The big east at the time was looking at
Drake, Creighton, DePaul, Butler, Xavier, Dayton, Nova, Gtown, SJU, SHU, Marq, Prov for 12 and then talking about how to get to 14/16. They eventually put the breaks on it at 10 for now as things shake out but clearly a bigger league is wanted longterm. SLU along with Boston U is uniquely positioned to sell itself to the Big East as a gem. They are a project on the court, but the private school and market identity is highly valued by that league. The big east makes 5mil per team in TV payouts, what does BU make right now?

BU could literally add 7 mil in TV money overnight and take a huge step in brand exposure to the masses, research and separating itself from all other Boston schools and branding itself as Bostons school vs all others(for real...)


Seriously tho, why do we have to live through a 20 something day break? I'm bored as duck.

 

[HuskyfanDan]

The drunk conference realignment posts from Dan are easily one of my favorite things on the interwebs.

ps - Dan, I think this is cruel when you realize there are people like Butchy around that are literally hanging on every last word from even lunatics like you on conference realignment. You just forced him to sit by the phone until 2018 waiting for Delany to call.

Why do you think Oliver Luck left for the NCAA? I think he sees the writing on the wall for the b12, he can't get them to expand with the right schools and knows that Texas and crew will bolt eventually. So he gets out now and when WVU is hung out its not his fault.

The only play for the B12 was to add BYU and BSU as football only schools. They don't even seem interested in that.

 

[HuskyfanDan]

i don't think there were 100 people at the SMU game even if you include the uconn team

I said when they are bad, the play for the SMU game was Pittiful, that's way worse.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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As for Boston, UConn has a small base of alums and fans. By itself it's not enough to turn on all the cable boxes(base channel). So how do you get that? You add BU hockey. Take the amount of students, alums and fans of BU in the Boston market and add them to UConn base and all other alums and fans of the B1G in the Boston market and together that number represents a large enough percentage of the population that getting the B1G network on basic is doable. It happened in NYC and DC recently with MD and JHU. Same thing.

Jesus you really need to stop drinking. Do you realize how small the ratings are for college hockey? And how few BU people care about their hockey team?

 

[RSTuthill]

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I see the drinking has started early

Like

 

[HuskyfanDan]

Jesus you really need to stop drinking. Do you realize how small the ratings are for college hockey? And how few BU people care about their hockey team?

College hockey to date has not seen a effort on the scale of what the B1G is doing to bring it to TV audiences. The B1G is going to have eyeballs becuase of its brand names and together they will create a niche within the hockey world that will get good ratings.

Winter inventory eventually on the B1G network is going to have basketball and hockey games live every night. When you take huge brand schools and put them on basic cable every night, people outside the base start paying attention, rooting for the local teams or atleast become more aware of the schools.
So in CT the locals are still mad about the whalers and on a Tuesday night they may not watch sports or they might turn on a Bruins or Rangers game. Now put a UConn @ Michigan game and see who turns it on. It's easy to get behind that if you are a UConn base person in any way or a local looking for a reason to watch hockey.
Now up in Boston you have plenty of opportunities to watch hockey. But on the college level BU is among the top choices. On top of that its the biggest base population choice. Everyone knows University is more prestigious then college brand wise and also that BC has a certain hate from outsiders to it due to attitude. So while BC is playing at UMass(nesn maybe up there?) BU is playing at PSU or Wisc and its on TV across the whole B1G footprint.

Huge difference. You want to recruit students from NJ? You want to recruit basketball players from NYC? You want to be in front of eyes in DC who lobby for research dollars? Well just point to a network on TV basic cable that you are a member of. Hockey East doesn't scratch the surface.

This is the same reasons why people are mad at Syracuse for staying Private. They had the chance back in 08 to declare the Pitt lifestyle of being a semi private school but invested in the state funds and backing by taking on the state mission. The SUNY system was going to name Syracuse it's flagship. They were going to brand it with the SU in Orange and the NY in blue as the perfect brand merger for both sides. Cuse was going to add about 5k enrollment wise with some new dorms and the state was going to build a 50,044 new dome stadium as part of the agreement. They were going to take the old one and remodel it to a 25k arena and the other half into some type of athletic facility for a hockey rink. If you can imagine the dome picture the basketball court on one end zone and the hockey rink form like the 40 to the other endzone. It was going to be a massive move that would put Cuse on the cusp of greatness. Instead they puss ied out becuase they knew they could get a ACC invite without doing this. The state wanted a school in the B1G. Cuse would rather not put the effort in and make half the money the b1g does in order to play Duke bball. Is what it is. Some just don't have the vision or balls. BU does, they get it.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Ah Jesus you crack me up with this weird, drug-induced stuff.

 

[brassbonanza]

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I'm embarrassed that I root for the same school, in other sports, as this guy.

 

[HuskyfanDan]

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I'm embarrassed that I root for the same school, in other sports, as this guy.

I agree, its embarrassing that considering everything that has happened in CR the past 2 decades I still share the same fan interests as people who don't understand conference realignment or the RPM dynamics of colleges in general. I'm not on here yelling Tuesday is the day for this and that. I'm simply giving my opinion of where things are going based on trends and moves so far.

When you post in the BU thread about a certain players game last night and say why you think it was good or bad that's your opinion based on what you saw. That's fine. I do the same with football. I also take interest, great interest in conference realignment because it just so happens that one school has gotten kicked more than any other.

If you don't understand how to turn cable boxes on, how to grab markets, how the aau and cic work and other things that's not my fault. And if you think its embarrassing than good luck. You are clueless. Do you think the Big east added Xavier for fun? Do you think JHU wanted to play B1G schools that bad in lax vs playing in the ACC or another league? Or that maybe the research and general relationship with B1G schools was worth something to them? Why did ND want to join HE vs other hockey leagues? Just to play BC? They could have scheduled that every year if they wanted.

College sports are highly visible because of TV, internet and base attendance at events, but they are actually a small % of the net worth that goes into the overall school and its brand. The sooner clowns like you realize this the better off UConn and other schools you root for will be. But for now, I'm sorry I am embarrassing you. Enjoy your sandwich. Meanwhile every time Susan does something like buy a old hotel(sshh the Yard knows about this but not about the new hotel in DT yet...) or gain a new research grant I will be rooting her on. She gets it. She must be embarrassing the crap out of you.

 

[mookie1995]

Why is the B1G interested in BU and not BC?

Igles ain't AAU

 

[Middle Street]

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What is BUs TV payout right now in HE?

I'd love to know the answer to this one because based on posts I've seen in the past, I was under the impression the schools and league paid NESN to broadcast the games, not the other way around. Am I wrong about that?

 

[RSTuthill]

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I'd love to know the answer to this one because based on posts I've seen in the past, I was under the impression the schools and league paid NESN to broadcast the games, not the other way around. Am I wrong about that?

I do not know but I suspect you are close to being right. Maybe no money changes hands.

 

[HuskyfanDan]

I'd love to know the answer to this one because based on posts I've seen in the past, I was under the impression the schools and league paid NESN to broadcast the games, not the other way around. Am I wrong about that?

When I orginally was told and chatted about this topic years ago, I was told that HE reached a agreement to put a select amount of games on NESN and it was pure filler orginally. There was a clause based on rating and advertising that HE could profit eventually. Then later I was told they made 500k I think as a league or per team I forget. This is not the latest info so think like 2010-2012ish maybe. I also remember something about versus taking a deal to give it a try for like 10 games but nothing came of it longterm I remember. The point is the B1G will be the first constant college hockey channel becuase that network is safe as is without it. It's a bonus to both sides.

NESN isn't even in all of CT. It's reach is nothing besides Boston sports fans or tams of HE schools playing away games that are on TV.

It's a little kid getting a matchbox car for Christmas and his dad getting himself a Porsche.

But I'm sure mr slurped or someone else will come here and bash away in a minute. Money talks. Long term stability talks. That's what UConn is chasing and I believe others are also.

One thing I have honestly not seen is HE fans talking about how they will compete with B1G schools with the amount of cash they will get becuase of the TV network? 2 mil!?!? That's a serious boost to a hockey program. The recruiting and swag you can improve on with that has to atleast worry people a bit no? what happened when those schools take recruiting and turn it into bball and fball type hustles? How do you go to Canada or backwoods VT and pitch a kid? It's going to be like Michigan vs Lowell but it's going to look like Oregon vs eastern Washington for a football analogy.

 

[claver2010]

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The drunk conference realignment posts from Dan are easily one of my favorite things on the interwebs.

ps - Dan, I think this is cruel when you realize there are people like Butchy around that are literally hanging on every last word from even lunatics like you on conference realignment. You just forced him to sit by the phone until 2018 waiting for Delany to call.

HFD's posts are definitely near the top of my favorite things.

Only thing that may top that is HFD + some knuckledragger in WV with aol 4.0 after a couple of swigs of moonshine posting about reallignment and sending the puppy pound into hysteria.