U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

[walrus]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Interesting game, I concur with the others who say Maine was more physical than their usual stab at the puck, that was good to see and actually got the crowd going at times. Marty looks just like Marty of last year, not good. Shemansky needs to hit the weight room, Amestoy being the same height is far more effective. Beattie played well as did Joey. Haven't seen the called off goal but I have to wonder if it was any other Maine player but Joey would it have been called off. Maines D is once again not good. My kingdom for Prestin Ryan. Amestoy had to take that penalty in the 3rd, the PC player was all alone in the shot and had been for what seemed to be an eternity. Flynn saved a goal with Marty way out of position behind the net, he picked a PC players pocket and controlled the puck, it was a great play, if he hadn't PC had a wide open net in the 2nd. A win is a win, so I'll take it. I suspect Sully handles these guys tonight

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Nate did an amazing job at Union, which used to be a bottom-feeding program in a bottom-feeding conference.

We've driven over to watch them occasionally over the years, and they generally got hammered, but we caught the sweep of Maine in Schenectady a couple of years back.As we were driving home listening to the post-game on the radio, I remember the announcer saying that Union had landed the top prep-prospect goalie in the country...And you can imagine how good that made me feel about what Maine has had in net for years now.

(Timmy's extension expires in the Spring, right?)

TW's extension began this season (3 yr deal).....

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Interesting game, I concur with the others who say Maine was more physical than their usual stab at the puck, that was good to see and actually got the crowd going at times. Marty looks just like Marty of last year, not good. Shemansky needs to hit the weight room, Amestoy being the same height is far more effective. Beattie played well as did Joey. Haven't seen the called off goal but I have to wonder if it was any other Maine player but Joey would it have been called off. Maines D is once again not good. My kingdom for Prestin Ryan. Amestoy had to take that penalty in the 3rd, the PC player was all alone in the shot and had been for what seemed to be an eternity. Flynn saved a goal with Marty way out of position behind the net, he picked a PC players pocket and controlled the puck, it was a great play, if he hadn't PC had a wide open net in the 2nd. A win is a win, so I'll take it. I suspect Sully handles these guys tonight

Just imo the goal Abbott scored should have counted,Diamond was pushed into the crease and Beaudry by his own player...what irks the blank out of me was there was NO EMOTION should by TW on that call...no matter if it was ruled a NO goal he should have at least gave both Referees a ear full...but no he just look at them with a blank care-free look....Amstoy looked good out there/postions himself well and I would hope he gets to play again tonight...ditto on Sullivan tonight also....difference here tonight is which Coach makes the right changes in game plan...Leaman has the edge imo,where's as Maine's strenght is that they have more legit scoring (Not a whole lot more,but better snipers in Flynn/Abbott).

 

[umainesuperfan]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

MaineHockey I really really disagree with you. I said as soon as the goal was "scored" that it would be called off. It was pretty clear to me that Diamond lost his edge way before he was contacted and that he was going to be in the crease regardless of the contact. His being who he is probably didn't help but there was sufficient evidence to overturn the call regardless of the guy whearing white IMO.

Also i saw whitehead give the ref some flack. It's a tight game he's got to regroup he can't just fly off the handle it's counterproductive.

Liked what I saw from Cerretani on that huge hit, not so much on the stupid hitting from behind penalty.
Wonder why andersson didn't play??
Stu Higgins looked really good.
Parker and Swavely were unimpressive.
Why isn't Antonelli playing?

Sully in net tonight is my guess.

 

[staind86]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

abbotts goal should have counted...it was just like the game against BU two or three years ago at the Garden in the hockey east semifinal, the ref watched the replay for 15 minutes looking a way to screw Maine.....Bunyon is awful at his job and i'm sick of him blowing calls all over the place (and not just for Maine..). If you have to watch a replay for 15 minutes then I don't see how you can find CONCLUSIVE evidence to overturn the original call..

 

[staind86]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

MaineHockey I really really disagree with you. I said as soon as the goal was "scored" that it would be called off. It was pretty clear to me that Diamond lost his edge way before he was contacted and that he was going to be in the crease regardless of the contact. His being who he is probably didn't help but there was sufficient evidence to overturn the call regardless of the guy whearing white IMO.

Also i saw whitehead give the ref some flack. It's a tight game he's got to regroup he can't just fly off the handle it's counterproductive.

Liked what I saw from Cerretani on that huge hit, not so much on the stupid hitting from behind penalty.
Wonder why andersson didn't play??
Stu Higgins looked really good.
Parker and Swavely were unimpressive.
Why isn't Antonelli playing?

Sully in net tonight is my guess.

I actually liked some of what i saw from Swavely...he just needs to have the same hustle for 60 minutes, he's got some good skating ability and he showed it at times tonight but like much of Maine didn't show it for 60+ minutes.

 

[walrus]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

If you have to watch a replay for 15 minutes then I don't see how you can find CONCLUSIVE evidence to overturn the original call..

They want to get it right(at least I want to think that ) but thats a good point. The call on the ice was goal so... After watching it I think Diamond being who he is and his rep is part of the reason it was overturned, just my feeling. He was putting the brakes on and the PC dman rode him in there. In the end Flynn won it so...

I think if Sully had been in net that goal would have been moot, Maine would have won 4-1

 

[umainesuperfan]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

swavely is a decent player, i just didn't see any sustained periods of above average play, no shifts that really stood out (for example Mangene had four or five "WOW" shifts).
i thought higgins had two or three shifts where he did work.

I guess i see your point about taking 15 mins to make a decision, but I just had a gut feeling on that call that it was getting overturned. I really think that Bunyan "justified" the call because Joey was so far in the crease and the argument could be made that he would have been in the crease impeding the goalie with or without the contact.

 

[staind86]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

I think if Sully had been in net that goal would have been moot, Maine would have won 4-1

Thats a point I agree with. I don't think Sully is necessarily the better goalie but Marty wasn't certainly not on his game tonight and got lucky his play of the puck didn't cost him. Sully will be in there tonight.

And I do agree they try to get the call right and Diamond's reputation didn't help him, but more or less I was pretty disgusted with Bunyon in general last night so I vented some of that anger haha.

 

[walrus]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

And I do agree they try to get the call right and Diamond's reputation didn't help him, but more or less I was pretty disgusted with Bunyon in general last night so I vented some of that anger haha.

Hansen is the one that POed me. He missed a blatant elbow to Spences head in the 2nd and it was right in front of him. When I saw the 2 of them skate out I knew we were in for it

 

[KnowItAll]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

MaineHockey I really really disagree with you. I said as soon as the goal was "scored" that it would be called off. It was pretty clear to me that Diamond lost his edge way before he was contacted and that he was going to be in the crease regardless of the contact. .

why do you say that the "goal" should have been called off?
I have JUST read the recent NCAA rule, and diamond was pushed in, and diamond fought not to be pushed.... it silly idea that he did not fight hard enough is not part of the rules

"If a player of the attacking team has been physically interfered with by the action of any defending player so as to cause the player to be in the goal crease, and the puck enters the net while the player so interfered with is still within the goal crease, the goal shall be allowed."

does this mean that "if, in the opinion of Scott Hansen, a Maine players was interfered with, but no so much as to warrant a minor penalty"???

or does it mean "if a player is interfered with... but, because Jeff Bunyon is given such wide latitude that he can disragard any of these silly suggestions, we make everyone else consider NCAA RULES..."???

diamond had two skates on the ice, he was putting on the breaks, and snow was flying... when contact was made, he lost his balance and instead of 2 skates on the ice, he had only one.... nobody can tell me that a player with only one skate on the ice, going from full speed to stopping while being pushed is trying to run a goalie.

as someone else said it, Buyon blew this call, just like he blew the Lowell goal at the garden against BU.

if any of you remember the Lucas Lawson goal against UNH, this was sort of the same scenario... Lawson was being pushed, had only one skate on the ice and Nault's centering pass deflected off lawson's skate... it is impossible to control one's skates and momentum when off balance, on one skate and being pushed by a D man.

(incdentally, Maine's D ought to take note... IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO control one's self when being pushed by a D man)

 

[BoSox3066]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

I wish I knew where to look up shorthanded goals allowed by team....Maine's got to be bottom in the country the last five years or so.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

I wish I knew where to look up shorthanded goals allowed by team....Maine's got to be bottom in the country the last five years or so.

The last 4-5 years they have allowed anywhere's from 8 to 14 in a season and they are one of the worst teams in that department...and it happens over and over.

 

[Slapshot08]

The last 4-5 years they have allowed anywhere's from 8 to 14 in a season and they are one of the worst teams in that department...and it happens over and over.

Already have allowed 3 shorties. 3 times more than any other HE team

Special Teams Net PPF SHA PP PPA SHF SH NET
1 Merrimack 8 0 +8 2 1 -1 +7
2 Boston College 6 1 +5 3 0 -3 +2
UMass Lowell 4 0 +4 2 0 -2 +2
4 Boston University 3 0 +3 5 3 -2 +1
5 Providence 3 0 +3 5 2 -3 0
6 New Hampshire 4 0 +4 6 1 -5 -1
Northeastern 2 0 +2 4 1 -3 -1
8 Maine 5 3 +2 4 0 -4 -2
Massachusetts 5 1 +4 6 0 -6 -2
Vermont 3 0 +3 5 0 -5 -2

 

[all bear]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Alright maine. Way to sieze a win from the jaws of failure. Maybe this team has nads. What do you think?

 

[rufus]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Sure, they squeaked it out in the end, but I didn't see to much from the defensemen in their own zone to the goaltending to be too optimistic about this team over the long haul. And people on this board were saying Ouellette handled the puck well? Must have been someone else wearing his number last night.

I thought Higgins looked good. Good enough that I'd almost like to see him on the top line, with Flynn and Diamond. And Mangene's work on Joey's first goal is why I think he shouild be playing forward, and not D. He's just a scrapper, and never gives up on the puck. Have him center a second line with Abbott and Beattie, maybe get the scoring spread around a bit. Freshman line looked good.

 

[KnowItAll]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Already have allowed 3 shorties. 3 times more than any other HE team

Special Teams Net PPF SHA PP PPA SHF SH NET
1 Merrimack 8 0 +8 2 1 -1 +7
2 Boston College 6 1 +5 3 0 -3 +2
UMass Lowell 4 0 +4 2 0 -2 +2
4 Boston University 3 0 +3 5 3 -2 +1
5 Providence 3 0 +3 5 2 -3 0
6 New Hampshire 4 0 +4 6 1 -5 -1
Northeastern 2 0 +2 4 1 -3 -1
8 Maine 5 3 +2 4 0 -4 -2
Massachusetts 5 1 +4 6 0 -6 -2
Vermont 3 0 +3 5 0 -5 -2

yeah but come on... do the math... they are EVEN with Merrimack, the number 1 team... IF you add up Maine's PP goals AND SHA, you get 8... JUST like Merrimack.

AND if NYquist didn't leave early...

as for the D... it is pretty amazing how PC scored most of their goals last night, even the TV commentators were saying that Maine was just standing around and PC players were doing what they wanted, unchecked.

Good thing Timmy is having O'Connor sit, ---wouldn't want a D man hitting anyone out there

 

[chripy]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

MORE AMESTOY! Attaboy, Amestoy.

My mom used to buy me sneakers from Ames. Which used to be Zayers, or was it Zellars, and Rich's. The soles would fall apart after a few weeks and we'd use duct or electrical tape to hold 'em together. I always think about those shoes when I hear 'Amestoy' Probably not fair to the guy. Oh well.

MORE AMESTOY! You're better than a pair of Ames sneakers. But I'd bet that you'd still play hard even if you're all taped up.

 

[walrus]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Apparently Cornell hit too many people or maybe he scored too much friday night, welcome to Timmays doghouse.

For whatever reason I want Marty to be #1 goalie but clearly he isn't, Sully was the man tonight, hung out to dry on a consistent basis, he kept Maine in the game. Good thing PC's PP sucks. Shemansky played a good game but I still don't like how easy he gets blown off the puck.
Hansen called nearly every penalty on Maine, I think Bunyon finally got one in the 3rd

 

[Runsub5]

Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread

Apparently Cornell hit too many people or maybe he scored too much friday night, welcome to Timmays doghouse.

For whatever reason I want Marty to be #1 goalie but clearly he isn't, Sully was the man tonight, hung out to dry on a consistent basis, he kept Maine in the game. Good thing PC's PP sucks. Shemansky played a good game but I still don't like how easy he gets blown off the puck.
Hansen called nearly every penalty on Maine, I think Bunyon finally got one in the 3rd

Late in the game, Leaman calls a timeout in order to draw up a plan for scoring on the PP. Didn't work out well for the Friars. Probably their worst PP for the game. Nick Pryor left the ice with a shoulder injury and did not return. This guy has had more than his share of bad luck. He played very well tonight. Maine also needs to work on their PP as well.