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TV: One Person's Trash...

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MissThundercat said:
Kep, I did a little more reading into Chappelle's more recent specials, including this one. They've included disgusting, bigoted, anti-trans attempts at "humor." If calling him a bigot makes me an "SJW," so ****ing be it.
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No you arent a SJW. If you think his comment was offensive that is your right. If you call ME a bigot because I laughed at the joke (because the whole point of the joke is it is ridiculous not because it is true) THEN you are an SJW. That is the difference.

I think Michael Jackson is scum...but if my GF plays Man in the Mirror while we are in the car I dont call her a Pedophile for it.
 
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Handyman said:
No you arent a SJW. If you think his comment was offensive that is your right. If you call ME a bigot because I laughed at the joke (because the whole point of the joke is it is ridiculous not because it is true) THEN you are an SJW. That is the difference.

I think Michael Jackson is scum...but if my GF plays Man in the Mirror while we are in the car I dont call her a Pedophile for it.
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I jam to R Kelly's Ignition remix, but he can burn in hell, as far as I am concerned.

And for just for giggles, I have never laughed harder, yet also felt so dirty and ashamed FOR laughing at it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSnLsYbKLhQ (it repeats, dunno why, and NOT SAFE FOR ANY ENVIRONMENT)
 
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MissThundercat said:
Kep, I did a little more reading into Chappelle's more recent specials, including this one. They've included disgusting, bigoted, anti-trans attempts at "humor." If calling him a bigot makes me an "SJW," so ****ing be it.
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In this special his jokes are neither anti-trans (quite the opposite) nor bigoted (again, what makes them funny is that there are bigots out there, and the grounding of all Chappelle's humor is that those people are not just horrific but laughable).

I recommend you watch it and make your own judgments. I think he's very good in this. If you feel that a non-LGBT person making LGBT jokes is by definition bigoted then you won't.

I'm certain Chappelle will do more to drive the message of LGBT personhood, let alone dignity and equality, home to ignorant straights who hear awful anti-LGBT messaging from their parents and pastors, but then actually have their brains turned on via his humor, than the entire LGBT community being serious and putting guardrails on humor. That is always how ignorant people are reached. You get through the walls of lazy ideological idiocy with humor because in laughter we are all brothers and sisters. "That's not funny" never ever reached anybody. It's a club sign, "no Others allowed." But in trying to reach people who aren't hateful but who learned hateful things in church or around the dinner table you Must Speak To Others. Liberals never understand this, and it's one reason it takes so long to break through with the simple, universal message that if you are afraid of people just for how they look or who they love then you are a dink.

Those on our side who think Chappelle is speaking hateful words are as big idiots completely missing the point as the righties who think Chappelle is agreeing with them. Chappelle is telling the Tucker Carlsons of the world, in no uncertain terms, that they can DIAF because bigotry is not merely inhumane, it's also for losers.
 
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Handyman said:
Them equating liking Dave Chappelle to being a Nazi (which is what they did) puts THEM on par with being a Nazi numbskull. Me calling them out for it just makes me a person with a functional brain and sense of humor. These people are bad news man...
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Of course no one said that, but I'm guessing you were too busy being offended for Brent to actually slow down and read.
 
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MissThundercat said:
Kep, I did a little more reading into Chappelle's more recent specials, including this one. They've included disgusting, bigoted, anti-trans attempts at "humor." If calling him a bigot makes me an "SJW," so ****ing be it.
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This may be a function of my individual perspective (supportive of lbgtq persons but not one myself), but after I watched Sticks and Stones three or four nights ago I was left with the feeling that lgbtq persons have a friend in Dave Chappelle. I remember this, because Mrs. burd, who was also offended at some of his jokes, and I discussed that question.
 
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burd said:
This may be a function of my individual perspective (supportive of lbgtq persons but not one myself), but after I watched Sticks and Stones three or four nights ago I was left with the feeling that lgbtq persons have a friend in Dave Chappelle. I remember this, because Mrs. burd, who was also offended at some of his jokes, and I discussed that question.
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He basically said what MT said a month or so back...that lgbtq are all fighting for the same thing they just dont work together. The "Ls" dont like the "Gs"...they both hate the "Bs" and everyone seems to resent the "Ts".
 
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Handyman said:
He basically said what MT said a month or so back...that lgbtq are all fighting for the same thing they just dont work together. The "Ls" dont like the "Gs"...they both hate the "Bs" and everyone seems to resent the "Ts".
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And in doing that, I think his intent was to show they are no different from you or me in that we are all labelers who have difficulty relating to others who are different to some degree. I'm not very familiar with Chappelle's work, so I might very well be wrong.
 
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burd said:
And in doing that, I think his intent was to show they are no different from you or me in that we are all labelers who have difficulty relating to others who are different to some degree. I'm not very familiar with Chappelle's work, so I might very well be wrong.
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That is an interesting take, never thought of it like that, but you could be right. Chappelle just dissects every thing to its base, and puts it in humor form. I agree that the majority all lump the LGBT movement together into one big group, but that is probably not the case.
 
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Detour off chapelle if that’s allowed.
On becoming a god in central Florida sure is interesting. Dunst is really really good. And I’ve finally seen a version of Alexander skarsgard that I would not bang.
 
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I should mention I did finish the first season of American Gods. The tv series is a whole new level of detail of being graphic, compared to the book. That is saying something. However, I am absolutely enthralled with all the characters and the story once again. If this were streaming instead of just on disc, I'd have burned through anything that was offered.
 
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Solid suggestion on STICKS & STONES.

That set was a deep dissection of the US looking in the mirror at this point in time. It wasn't wet yourself, out of breath laughter. It was several "ha ha" moments abruptly followed by "oh sh*t! He has a point" moments. If you want to know where we stand as a society right now, watch this and then have a serious discussion about what makes the jokes happen. It's eye opening :o
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Solid suggestion on STICKS & STONES.

That set was a deep dissection of the US looking in the mirror at this point in time. It wasn't wet yourself, out of breath laughter. It was several "ha ha" moments abruptly followed by "oh sh*t! He has a point" moments. If you want to know where we stand as a society right now, watch this and then have a serious discussion about what makes the jokes happen. It's eye opening :o
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This part. All the yes.

And agreed on having a discussion. That it what makes me love this special.
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Solid suggestion on STICKS & STONES.

That set was a deep dissection of the US looking in the mirror at this point in time. It wasn't wet yourself, out of breath laughter. It was several "ha ha" moments abruptly followed by "oh sh*t! He has a point" moments. If you want to know where we stand as a society right now, watch this and then have a serious discussion about what makes the jokes happen. It's eye opening :o
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Agreed. It was a intelligent piece.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Detour off chapelle if that’s allowed.
On becoming a god in central Florida sure is interesting. Dunst is really really good. And I’ve finally seen a version of Alexander skarsgard that I would not bang.
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I really like Kirsten Dunst (Mary Jane Watson, *swoon*) and want to see this series, but not sure if I want to jump into it yet.
 
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