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TV: Give Me That Remote!

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Handyman said:
They could have called it anything...calling it The Nightly Show was a mistake.
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In your opinion. I liked the name. And I severely doubt the name had anything to do with the show ultimately failing. The show was doomed as soon as Jon Stewart stopped being the lead in.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
In your opinion. I liked the name. And I severely doubt the name had anything to do with the show ultimately failing. The show was doomed as soon as Jon Stewart stopped being the lead in.
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The show was just bad. I tried watching a few times before dropping cable TV, and Larry just couldn't deliver. He was going for a dry delivery, but there was just a meanness to his bit that Stewart was able to get around or make palatable by his eventual outburst and laughing at the ludicrous situations he described. Colbert got around it by being absurd from the outset.
 
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In your opinion. I liked the name. And I severely doubt the name had anything to do with the show ultimately failing. The show was doomed as soon as Jon Stewart stopped being the lead in.
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The show was doomed because it wasn't funny. You can say it was needed, but you still have to give people a reason to watch it.
 
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unofan said:
The show was doomed because it wasn't funny. You can say it was needed, but you still have to give people a reason to watch it.
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It was very funny but it wasn't funny ha ha, it was funny "that sh-t's just wrong," and the people on the business end were often the primary audience: educated white people who aren't racist but let racism go all around us all the time because it's awkward and exhausting and not a key to social success to be constantly on the case of unthinking white racists.

Just think of the casual racism on the Cafe. Are you really going to spend every waking moment arguing with those people? They aren't vicious or even particularly uneducated, they're just dumbfuk ignint about people outside of their chilly rink rat circle.
 
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But the show was not entertaining. This isnt BBC it is still a show on Comedy Central. Above all else TDS and Colbert were entertainment. They knew how to walk the line much better than Wilmore did.

And the funny thing is Wilmore is probably the smartest and most politically savvy of the three. He should have been doing a legit show, not the faux political stuff that Comedy Central viewers enjoy.
 
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Handyman said:
But the show was not entertaining. This isnt BBC it is still a show on Comedy Central. Above all else TDS and Colbert were entertainment. They knew how to walk the line much better than Wilmore did.

And the funny thing is Wilmore is probably the smartest and most politically savvy of the three. He should have been doing a legit show, not the faux political stuff that Comedy Central viewers enjoy.
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Or he should be doing something like John Oliver does. Or Samantha Bee. They tried cramming too much into a 1/2 hour. The panel part was good but it wasn't nearly long enough for everyone there. It was a huge mish mash of too much chaos in a short time period. Details got left out for expediency.
 
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Handyman said:
And the funny thing is Wilmore is probably the smartest and most politically savvy of the three. He should have been doing a legit show, not the faux political stuff that Comedy Central viewers enjoy.
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I think he learned a lot during the run. I can see him doing a mostly straight show with the occasional sharp observation.

Note that Maher has gotten more serious over the years -- Real Time is basically a political debating show with a celeb guest thrown in to fool the network brass into thinking it's the same old crap. And as Maher has gotten less funny, the times he is funny are far more effective.

In pure intellect I think the ranking is:

1. Colbert
2. Wilmore
3. Oliver
--- gap ---
4. Stewart
5. Bee
6. Noah
7. Maher (sorry, Cornell :( * )
--- gap ---
The nightly talk show yappers (Fallon, Kimmell, etc)

* for the heck of it, the matres almae:

1. Colbert (Northwestern)
2. Wilmore (Cal Poly Pomona)
3. Oliver (Cambridge)
4. Stewart (William & Mary)
5. Bee (Univ. of Ottawa)
6. Noah (none)
7. Maher (Cornell)
 
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Stewart is too low. Listen to him outside TDL when he has a venue to Leave behind being predominantly silly and he shines brightly.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Stewart is too low. Listen to him outside TDL when he has a venue to Leave behind being predominantly silly and he shines brightly.
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I don't think Stewart is low. I just think those others are higher. Everybody on the list down to Bee is very bright.

Others who belong, in rough order from smartest:

John Hodgman
Kristen Schaal
Aasif Mandvi
--- gap --- (put Stewart here)
Steve Carrell
Sarah Silverman
Al Madrigal
--- gap ---
Mo Rocca
Dan Bakkedahl
Wyatt Cenac
Rob Corddry
--- gap --- (put Maher here)
Rob Riggle
Matt Walsh
Ed Helms

If Noah loses the gig I would kill for Hodgman or Schaal to be the next host. Hodgman because he could do it in his sleep, and he would be able to be incredibly funny for the groudlings while also being highly cerebral. Schaal because I really want her to develop and this gig would force her to invent an entirely new thing, plus seeing her every night right before bed wouldn't hurt my sex life.

And I'm bored so why not? The definitive list, ordered by brains. D-1 in bold.

1. John Hodgman (Yale)
2. Kristen Schaal (Northwestern)
3. Stephen Colbert (Northwestern)
4. Larry Wilmore (Cal Poly Pomona*)
5. Aasif Mandvi (South Florida)

6. John Oliver (Cambridge)
7. Steve Carrell (Denison)
8. John Stewart (William & Mary)
9. Sarah Silverman (NYU*)
10. Al Madrigal (Univ. of San Francisco*)

11. Mo Rocca (Harvard)
12. Samantha Bee (Univ. of Ottawa)
13. Dan Bakkedahl (Florida State**)
14. Wyatt Cenac (UNC)
15. Trevor Noah (none)

16. Bill Maher (Cornell)
17. Rob Corddry (UMass-Amherst)
18. Rob Riggle (Kansas)
19. Matt Walsh (Northern Illinois)
20. Ed Helms (Oberlin)

(* dropped out)
(** but hey, started at St. Cloud!)
 
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Kepler said:
I think he learned a lot during the run. I can see him doing a mostly straight show with the occasional sharp observation.

Note that Maher has gotten more serious over the years -- Real Time is basically a political debating show with a celeb guest thrown in to fool the network brass into thinking it's the same old crap. And as Maher has gotten less funny, the times he is funny are far more effective.

In pure intellect I think the ranking is:

1. Colbert
2. Wilmore
3. Oliver
--- gap ---
4. Stewart
5. Bee
6. Noah
7. Maher (sorry, Cornell :( * )
--- gap ---
The nightly talk show yappers (Fallon, Kimmell, etc)

* for the heck of it, the matres almae:

1. Colbert (Northwestern)
2. Wilmore (Cal Poly Pomona)
3. Oliver (Cambridge)
4. Stewart (William & Mary)
5. Bee (Univ. of Ottawa)
6. Noah (none)
7. Maher (Cornell)
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Carlin

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Oliver
Stewart
Colbert

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Everyone else

EDIT: Sexist? OK, I'll admit I haven't seen enough of Bee. I have seen enough of Maddow to know she's smart enough, but not really smart and relies too much on the "nerd cute" with her hipster male sycophants. I suspect if you got her into a conversation at a snooty DC socialite party, she could talk the talk, but not walk the walk. And that's as far as any man is getting with her, so there you go. :p
 
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And John C. Reilly is in both :D

BTW I made it 30 minutes into Talledega Nights and shut it off out of boredom...
 
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I neglected to mention this at the time, the finale of Season2 of UnReal was... unreal. Inconsistent season, but the last three episodes went places I did not expect. I hope they end it there.
 
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Brenthoven said:
It'll be interesting to see how the series progresses after this year. The guy who plays Escobar will no longer be on the show after this season. I really hope they continue the series into the present day...
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I enjoy the show a lot. I'd imagine El Chapo Guzman could be a good story for a coupla years.

Have you seen Queen of the South? It's pretty good. Columbian coke funneled through Mexico into Texas.

Cartels for all.
 
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The night of had a fairly predictable ending. Overall it was a great series. Somewhat petered out near the end of the series for me.
 
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