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TV 4 - Renewed for another thread!!!

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Just watched my third series finale tonight. Jack McCoy goes all Jack Bauer with a yelling smackdown of a lawyer. It was rather awesome. And *sniff* Anita's going to be OK!!!
I watched that even though I haven't watched the show in about 7 years. I was disappointed that they uglied Lindsay Vonn up for her part. :p
 
Pregnancy or not, HIMYM was still pretty funny - I mean you can't portray them as post-college adolescents forever.
 
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Jesus Christ was the FlashFoward finale awful. Just boring miserable trash from start to finish.

I mean, it wasn't great most of the way, but I think a lot of people stuck around to at least get a little bit of resolution and they got rewarded with absolutely nothing even resembling resolution. It's like the writers realized how much they sucked and didn't even try to close things up.
 
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Jesus Christ was the FlashFoward finale awful. Just boring miserable trash from start to finish.

I mean, it wasn't great most of the way, but I think a lot of people stuck around to at least get a little bit of resolution and they got rewarded with absolutely nothing even resembling resolution. It's like the writers realized how much they sucked and didn't even try to close things up.


Let's end the show on a massive cliffhanger even after knowing for months there's a HIGH chance of the show getting canceled, and knowing for a solid 3 weeks for sure the show will be canceled!


...I mean I enjoyed the finale (though the way the characters act is beyond stupid), but what a dumb, dumb thing to do.
 
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Jesus Christ was the FlashFoward finale awful. Just boring miserable trash from start to finish.

I mean, it wasn't great most of the way, but I think a lot of people stuck around to at least get a little bit of resolution and they got rewarded with absolutely nothing even resembling resolution. It's like the writers realized how much they sucked and didn't even try to close things up.

I remember reading a while ago that they needed two years to do it justice. I let the DVR pile up and when it got cancelled I avoided the whole second half.

That being said I really wanted it to be good.
 
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Pregnancy or not, HIMYM was still pretty funny - I mean you can't portray them as post-college adolescents forever.

Parts of it were funny, but I dunno the last few episodes something has been missing. Add in the coming attempt at pregnancy and it just seems rather formulaic. I will still watch it but I think it has peaked. (not that there is anything wrong with that it has been a great show)
 
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Let's end the show on a massive cliffhanger even after knowing for months there's a HIGH chance of the show getting canceled, and knowing for a solid 3 weeks for sure the show will be canceled!

Maybe they were unable to get the cast and crew back on a moment's notice to re-write and re-shoot the final episode, seeing as the finale was most likely filmed well before the notice that they were cancelled.

I was unclear on what happened. So, there was a bomb in the FBI building? I must have missed that part of the dialogue. And Charlie (Lost Charlie, not daughter Charlie) was NOT able to stop the next blackout? Looks like he was close to it. I saw more than one date in the flashforward - one in 2015 and another in 2011. Since that scene was of daughter Charlie and she looked to be about 15, I'm thinking it was the latter. I watched this live and didn't record so I can't go back unless I go to ABC.com.

Or, like, a couple of security guards? Somewhere in the hospital? Maybe?

I think they showed one of them getting shot. I would have imaged more than 5 SWAT guys would be combing the hospital. And that one SWAT guy that shot the shooter in the shoulder should have been able to get off a second shot to kill him after Lexie got out of the way. That said, I thought it was a decent season finale for a series that's been pretty uneven this year.
 
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I think they showed one of them getting shot. I would have imaged more than 5 SWAT guys would be combing the hospital. And that one SWAT guy that shot the shooter in the shoulder should have been able to get off a second shot to kill him after Lexie got out of the way. That said, I thought it was a decent season finale for a series that's been pretty uneven this year.
A security guard was shot when Bailey was looking out the window of Mandy Moore's room. This may sound weird, but I was disappointed that none of the main characters died. They made it sound like someone big was going to be killed, when all they did was kill off more of the Mercy West nobodies. I really didn't expect Derek to make it, and I was glad that they didn't kill off Alex.
 
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A security guard was shot when Bailey was looking out the window of Mandy Moore's room. This may sound weird, but I was disappointed that none of the main characters died. They made it sound like someone big was going to be killed, when all they did was kill off more of the Mercy West nobodies. I really didn't expect Derek to make it, and I was glad that they didn't kill off Alex.
If McHairGel had died, THAT would have been a season finale.

I mean, come on, he was shot IN THE HEART and then laying there on that weird bridge thing for a few minutes, but I guess it's ok because Doctor Misanthropic Asian-And-Jewish-Stereotypes-In-One apparently spent her formative years learning how to perform miracles instead of learning how to interact with other members of society.

And what the hell, Angry Widower Guy? You're walking around shooting random people indiscriminately, and then you don't have a second bullet for the guy who actually killed your wife? Worst hospital shooter ever.
 
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If McHairGel had died, THAT would have been a season finale.

I mean, come on, he was shot IN THE HEART and then laying there on that weird bridge thing for a few minutes, but I guess it's ok because Doctor Misanthropic Asian-And-Jewish-Stereotypes-In-One apparently spent her formative years learning how to perform miracles instead of learning how to interact with other members of society.

And what the hell, Angry Widower Guy? You're walking around shooting random people indiscriminately, and then you don't have a second bullet for the guy who actually killed your wife? Worst hospital shooter ever.
I thought Christina said the bullet was lodged right next to the aorta, which means the guy just missed the heart.

Agreed on the shooter, he was friggin' stupid.
 
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I think they showed one of them getting shot. I would have imaged more than 5 SWAT guys would be combing the hospital. And that one SWAT guy that shot the shooter in the shoulder should have been able to get off a second shot to kill him after Lexie got out of the way. That said, I thought it was a decent season finale for a series that's been pretty uneven this year.

With the SWAT, that's apparently how they do it in Seattle.

Fans are joking that Seattle has the worst SWAT team in the country.
RHIMES: That’s a shame because we have these super awesome SWAT guys who talked us through everything. And we had a meeting in which I said, “Seriously, it would be five guys in a group searching [the entire] hospital? That sounds crazy to me.” And they said that’s how it works. And for me, it made it so much more horrible because that hospital is enormous. And the idea that just five guys are going to save them is ridiculous on so many levels, and yet, that’s how it works. When you’re looking for a shooter, you don’t have a bunch of people all spread out apparently.

Let’s shift gears to the actual crisis itself. I get that there’s a certain suspension of disbelief that comes with stories like this. But I don’t get why the SWAT team didn’t take the gunman out after they shot him the first time. It looked like they easily could have gotten a second shot in there.
RHIMES: They didn’t have a clear shot of him again.

But he was just laying there on the floor.
RHIMES: But Lexie was in between them. And then she got up and was still in between them. And she’s running away and he’s running away at the same time. So I don’t see that they could have gotten a clear shot.

(from Entertainment Weekly)
 
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Maybe they were unable to get the cast and crew back on a moment's notice to re-write and re-shoot the final episode, seeing as the finale was most likely filmed well before the notice that they were cancelled.

I was unclear on what happened. So, there was a bomb in the FBI building? I must have missed that part of the dialogue. And Charlie (Lost Charlie, not daughter Charlie) was NOT able to stop the next blackout? Looks like he was close to it. I saw more than one date in the flashforward - one in 2015 and another in 2011. Since that scene was of daughter Charlie and she looked to be about 15, I'm thinking it was the latter. I watched this live and didn't record so I can't go back unless I go to ABC.com.

I also think that if they had tried to replace the story they had developed with a new ending that neatly wrapped everything up, the result would've been wholly unsatisfying. That being said, I still think they should have developed the story in a way so that there was more closure at the end of the season. I think a well-executed season finale should (more or less) wrap up points from the current season and provide new questions for the (hypothetical) next season. But even with the prospect of people having new flash forwards to contend with, I feel like the main points of interest for a hypothetical second season would be major questions from the first season that just really haven't been addressed. Which is especially sad considering they already have story lines that got put on the backburner (the flashforward of the baby at the end is an abandoned story line about the FBI directory finding out he's having a child, I wouldn't be surprised if there were more storylines that got cut because the writers were overambitious).


There were a bunch of bombs in the FBI building. FBI director got a phone call about it after he bailed Mark out of jail. So yes, Hellinger felt it was necessary to send the kill squad into a building that was rigged to explode, and there was a kill squad dumb/dedicated enough to follow through with the mission.

Simon failed at stopping the blackout. With all the "we know what you're going to do before you do it" going on in this show, I wouldn't be surprised if Shadowy Organization planned on Simon being there to take the fall for the second blackout (and perhaps also unknowingly set it off).

They very last part seems epically stupid. I mean, the point of the entire season is that, for no apparent rhyme or reason, Benford can read off when the next FF is by looking at the way Rain Man puts the red strings on the board...and it's happening so soon that it doesn't make a **** bit of difference?

I'm still trying to figure out what the absolute low point of the season was. Leading candidates are "What did you see? *bang*", "THIS WASN'T THE WAY THINGS WERE SUPPOSED TO PLAY OUT!", and "because I WAS LOADED, OK?".
 
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I mean, come on, he was shot IN THE HEART and then laying there on that weird bridge thing for a few minutes, but I guess it's ok because Doctor Misanthropic Asian-And-Jewish-Stereotypes-In-One apparently spent her formative years learning how to perform miracles instead of learning how to interact with other members of society.

You should have tuned in for the six o'clock hour. Apparently people can stop breathing and have no heart beat for over an hour and then magically come back to life for no apparent reason.
 
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I think just about any moment from the finale could be a contender for stupidest moment of the season. I shouldn't get into plot holes because out of the five story lines of the show, none of them ended up making any sort of sense. But here goes:

1. Benford's story line:

So yes, Hellinger felt it was necessary to send the kill squad into a building that was rigged to explode, and there was a kill squad dumb/dedicated enough to follow through with the mission.

You're forgetting the fact that they knew Benford, along with everyone else in the world, was going to be unconscious and defenseless literally ten minutes later. Why bother sending a bunch of henchmen in there to randomly fire their never-ending supply of bullets into an empty office when he could have just waited ten minutes, walked up to Benford, and shot him in the face?

The plan would have made slightly more sense if Benford still had the blackout ring, but they had Lost guy perform some high-risk insane robbery to steal the ring as a cliffhanger. Then when the next blackout comes, neither Lost guy nor Harold wants to wear the ring, mainly because they have zero need to. Brilliant.

2. Lost Guy and Harold

Let's get the two most interesting character on the show into a room together at the most dramatic point and then have them do nothing.

So they break into this physics lab and Lost Guy hacks into this sophisticated computer system in about 17 keystrokes over some dramatic music.

And then all of a sudden, someone we don't know, can't see, and don't care about just breaks into the computer from somewhere else and undoes everything anyway for no apparent reason. That's Flashforward in a nutshell. There's a lot of cool stuff happening, but you're not allowed to see any of it.

Also, that baby we've never seen and nobody really remembered anything about? It's a boy. I think it was a supposed to be a girl. My mind was blown.

3. Doctor and Japanese Pimp My Ride Chick

So we go all season with this Doctor and Roger Sterling's New Wife building a relationship together and it all leads up to the climactic scene in the finale where Doctor basically says, "I know we've become really become close and you helped me through my cancer and all. And I know that you're probably ABOUT TO GO GET DROWNED, but I saw this chick in a vision, and I drew like twenty creepy pictures of her, so check you later. Except probably not because we both think you're about to die, and though we've spent much quality screen time together, I couldn't give a ****."

4. Olivia and the Nutty Professor

This is the peak of the stupidity. Episode after episode they keep hitting the fact that Olivia and this dude need to be together and it's really important and blah, blah, blah.

Why did they need to be together in the finale? So physics guy can get a text message from somebody else. Lost guy puts trillions of pieces of data on his phone and this schmuck can only get cell phone reception inside the Benford bedroom.

The other reason they HAD TO BE TOGETHER? So autism kid(who shockingly had more charisma than the non-autistic girl) can write down a formula on a mirror. That's cool and all except it's the same ****ing formula physics guy had written down on a piece of paper at his house.

Also, for a super-genius physics expert, this guy has to the be the world's ****tiest problem solver. This was the second time physics guy had a big revelation where he went, "Of course! I couldn't make this work when I only thought this problem in one specific way. But if I think about it in a slightly different way, it's all so obvious!" Except neither was a big revelation because it's stuff the audience already knew like four episodes ago.
 
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You're forgetting the fact that they had a limited number of secret decoder rings available, which needed to be used for vital tasks like capturing a debilitated pregnant woman.
 
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Animal Planet had a marathon of "Whale Wars" on today.

The little bit that I could stomach while channel surfing has only strengthened my desire to see all of them die painfully, and the people who continue to put them on the air.

And why the hell do they have an Iroquois Confederacy flag?
 
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