The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

[The Sicatoka]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

So you admit they are investigating Trump's illegal activities?

You missed the word "purported".

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

... they are OJ using the race card to prove a conspiracy that never happened in hopes of disparaging the LAPD (FBI) enough to get the people on their side.

Yes, I see that theme potentially playing out as well.
This is why cops must stay objective first and foremost.
The FBI should be smarter than the actions their IG found.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

Yes, I see that theme potentially playing out as well.
This is why cops must stay objective first and foremost.
The FBI should be smarter than the actions their IG found.

One can be objective about their job and biased in their Politics. But, you go, girl.

 

[GrinCDXX]

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One can be objective about their job and biased in their Politics. But, you go, girl.

That's just it. We don't know what, if any, actual improper actions were taken. But that's not stopping the Trump\Fox News acolytes from setting their hair on fire.

 

[GoldyDad2B]

That's just it. We don't know what, if any, actual improper actions were taken. But that's not stopping the Trump\Fox News acolytes from setting their hair on fire.

If reports are true that Trump talks to Hannity and Murdoch several times a week, and clearly Fox and a couple other far right sources are where he gets his information.... if you are still a Trump apologist you are sitting in an echo chamber. While there is no fresh air in there and no windows to see what is actually happening outside your echo chamber, last time I checked there is still a door. Trump apologists, you may want to step out for a bit, your great grandkids are watching and you are on the wrong side of history.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

That's just it. We don't know what, if any, actual improper actions were taken.

Did Mueller remove Strzok from his investigation without cause?

 

[GrinCDXX]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

Did Mueller remove Strzok from his investigation without cause?

His cause is that there's fair reason to question his impartiality (or maybe there's more--we don't know). Mueller is trying to "Do it right".

 

[alfablue]

It can be both.

Do it.
Do it right.

Objective truth must be determined; subjective truth, like someone's opinion of another, can not be allowed to subrogate objective truth.

What real data do you have to question what is being investigated? What does “do it right” really mean?

How can anyone really judge what is actually going on given the total lack of leaks? You seem more bothered by the lack of speed for an incredibly complex problem. This isn’t a simple break in.

The only real truth we know are the guilty pleas.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

Put it this way it wasn't just to see Nazis who were bad, it was those that chose willful blindness as well. Your little Faux Libretarian Schtick makes you part of the problem and none of the solution.

Honestly libertarians are basically just Republicans who want weed legal and don't care about religious issues nowadays. And I'm not sure if either of those apply to him, so he's basically a Republican.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

Gotta love how Trump supporters didn't want the FBI reformed when they were entrapping mentally disabled Muslims, spying on leftist groups/journalists/MLK, or any numerous abuses of power. No, it's an issue when they investigate someone they support who probably committed some kind of criminal activity. You can't make this up.

Also if they investigate Hillary, find that she did something illegal, and she goes to jail, good on them. You won't see me complaining.

 

[rufus]

The Federal Bureau of Investigation's Inspector General had to point out problems with personnel and how they were behaving to Special Prosecutor Mueller. Mr. Mueller had to relieve some of these personnel of their responsibilities to him and his investigation.

There is proof found by the FBI's IG that a sworn agent was setting up an "insurance policy" against a particular candidate. I won't go as far as Andrew C. McCarthy when he wrote in The Post that it “crosses the line between political banter and tainted law enforcement.” Heck, I won't go as far as Ari Fleischer and accuse the mainstream media of ignoring it — apparently because Mueller's investigation shan't be criticized.



"We" can't take that risk? Since when does the FBI decide the outcome of elections?


That is unacceptable behavior from law enforcement personnel. Period. It harms the agent, the Bureau, the investigation, and our democracy.


And before you all rip on me, imagine this: It is 2001, and the remnants of the Bush FBI had exchanged similar texts about "insurance policies" if Mr. Obama wins, and were hiring foreign agents to create dossiers, about Mr. Obama while investigating reports of his purported prior illegal activities. That, as well, would be unacceptable behavior from law enforcement.

The cops don't get to pick sides. If they do, they're called Gestapo.

So now the FBI are the ones who paid for and compiled the Steele dossier? Can you just pause for a second to acknowledge the extent of your delusion?

 

[trixR4kids]

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We really need to start documenting and taking screenshots of Trump supporters. Because we all know once he's gone there's gonna be a lot of them who "didn't support him" because they know they're going to be remembered about as fondly as the south during the civil war or supporters of any other fascist regime.

 

[Kepler]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

We really need to start documenting and taking screenshots of Trump supporters. Because we all know once he's gone there's gonna be a lot of them who "didn't support him" because they know they're going to be remembered about as fondly as the south during the civil war or supporters of any other fascist regime.

Meh, those who want to disavow him, let them. I don't want vengeance, I want a return to sanity and democracy. The ANC was right to let it go after apartheid. Bar the ringleaders from ever holding office again, but let the rank and file melt back into the gen pop. The world needs ditch diggers, and it's a waste to try to hunt them down. Not to mention that while you can't fix stupid, it's not illegal either.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

We really need to start documenting and taking screenshots of Trump supporters. Because we all know once he's gone there's gonna be a lot of them who "didn't support him" because they know they're going to be remembered about as fondly as the south during the civil war or supporters of any other fascist regime.

When this is all said and done, no one should ever take Country Mice seriously again.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

When this is all said and done, no one should ever take Country Mice seriously again.

Just keep saying “everyone has bias guys” as you repeat the latest from Fox News. Good game plan right?

 

[Handyman]

It can be both.

Do it.
Do it right.

Objective truth must be determined; subjective truth, like someone's opinion of another, can not be allowed to subrogate objective truth.

Wasn't it the Deputy Director of the DOJ that just said in front if Congress he is doing it and doing it right? Is he lying too?

He is doing it by the book...just because you wish it was otherwise don't make it true.

 

[Handyman]

To be fair, it can be both. But not this time. Mueller is a lifelong republican appointed by a Republican after a Republican stepped aside all under a Republican administration. He’s already fired one (or was it two) people who may have had an improper bias. Though, it’s possible they just had more than two brain cells and knew Trump was going to be a disaster.

If that’s the standard, then we should fire everyone including Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunnes, Chaefetz (spelling, all), and everyone else investigating any Clinton scandal. They’re biased.

Outside the last part dx gets it. If a lifelong Republican and a Republican leaning police force can't be trusted by Republicans to investigate Trump than logic dictates the problem is the Republicans themselves.

 

[Kepler]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

When this is all said and done, no one should ever take Country Mice seriously again.

This will go a ways to breaking the spell, anyway, for a generation.

There is always lurking in the back of the public mind that if we can get free of the city slickers and just get back to our simple, rural, Jeffersonian idyll, everything will be set back right in the eyes of the Lord. This little social and political dead end demonstrates that in fact, no, not only are the People of the Land not naturally morally superior, they are in fact hopelessly parochial, bigoted, violent, and comically ignorant. The few who actually had the brains and the merit got out as soon as they could and fled to the den of iniquity cities. The Frank Capra mythic Common Man of Good Sense, to the extent that it has a shadow of existence at all, is a suburban or urban man. The frontier ever was the refuge of the type of extremely unpleasant person whose bugs in his head makes it impossible for him to live around rational people.

I'm thinking we'll be good for another fifty years after this until the people who remember die and the sepia-toned fantasy comes back again.

 

[Handyman]

Yes, I see that theme potentially playing out as well.
This is why cops must stay objective first and foremost.
The FBI should be smarter than the actions their IG found.

You don't understand how things in the real world work do you?

How is Mueller being biased against Trump? Cite examples or drop this ridiculous charade.

Just because an agent thinks Trump is a moron doesn't mean he can't investigate him fairly. That whole notion is so dumb it makes my head spin. Juries do it all the time. Cops do it all the time. Judges, teachers, prosecutors, detectives...all do it every day. Just cause you don't like what is being found doesn't prove the point you think it does.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: The "There's no Special Prosecutor thread?" thread

So now the FBI are the ones who paid for and compiled the Steele dossier? Can you just pause for a second to acknowledge the extent of your delusion?

In October 2016, the FBI reached an agreement with Steele to pay him to continue his work, according to involved sources reported by The Washington Post.

They didn't buy the original, but tried to buy the sequel.