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The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

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Fuking vote Democratic then. Politicians rarely do anything that will cost them their jobs. Voters allowed knuckledraggers and Nazis to take over these states and pass tax cuts for billionaires financed by gutting education spending. Its one thing for this to occur in Mississippi where education isn't exactly the state's calling card. But Wisconsin, Michigan, etc people should know better.
 
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Fuking vote Democratic then. Politicians rarely do anything that will cost them their jobs. Voters allowed knuckledraggers and Nazis to take over these states and pass tax cuts for billionaires financed by gutting education spending. Its one thing for this to occur in Mississippi where education isn't exactly the state's calling card. But Wisconsin, Michigan, etc people should know better.

I assume teachers already do. Voters have now told the teachers what they think of them. Maybe they should just leave the country? I'd like to but maybe it's as hard for them to do it as it is for me.
 
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I assume teachers already do. Voters have now told the teachers what they think of them. Maybe they should just leave the country? I'd like to but maybe it's as hard for them to do it as it is for me.

I don't necessarily agree Scoobs. I recall reading What's the Matter With Kansas (a book that I didn't necessarily care for) but the author had a good anecdote about how his retired teacher father would nod in agreement while listening to Limbaugh attack teachers unions. Too many people sit out elections waiting for someone else to do the voting for them, or don't properly consider the Republicans are no longer the kindly grandfather country club types but instead Ayn Rand loving white supremacist loons who will in fact cut education to pay for tax cuts while they send their spawn off to private school where they don't have to mix with those "other" kids.
 
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I don't necessarily agree Scoobs. I recall reading What's the Matter With Kansas (a book that I didn't necessarily care for) but the author had a good anecdote about how his retired teacher father would nod in agreement while listening to Limbaugh attack teachers unions. Too many people sit out elections waiting for someone else to do the voting for them, or don't properly consider the Republicans are no longer the kindly grandfather country club types but instead Ayn Rand loving white supremacist loons who will in fact cut education to pay for tax cuts while they send their spawn off to private school where they don't have to mix with those "other" kids.

Interesting. I guess I assumed things like that were on the margins but maybe it is pervasive. Either way. This country sucks.
 
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America has always had an undercurrent of disdain for intellectualism and education
 
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It’s not so much a disdain for intellectualism as it is a culture of political nihilism. Plenty of people believe in paying teachers living wages, socializing health care and other liberal beliefs, but they also firmly believe that those things can’t be done because “it doesn’t matter, both sides are the same” or “it just can’t be done, people won’t accept it.”
 
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It’s not so much a disdain for intellectualism as it is a culture of political nihilism. Plenty of people believe in paying teachers living wages, socializing health care and other liberal beliefs, but they also firmly believe that those things can’t be done because “it doesn’t matter, both sides are the same” or “it just can’t be done, people won’t accept it.”

Trump and Clinton were the same except for the criminal part. Only one of them is a criminal and it's not the President.
 
I don't necessarily agree Scoobs. I recall reading What's the Matter With Kansas (a book that I didn't necessarily care for) but the author had a good anecdote about how his retired teacher father would nod in agreement while listening to Limbaugh attack teachers unions. Too many people sit out elections waiting for someone else to do the voting for them, or don't properly consider the Republicans are no longer the kindly grandfather country club types but instead Ayn Rand loving white supremacist loons who will in fact cut education to pay for tax cuts while they send their spawn off to private school where they don't have to mix with those "other" kids.

That may be true in Kansas but that is one anecdote. There is a reason the Right rails against liberal indoctrination in our schools.

Now teachers don't all love the union but the majority vote with them.
 
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It’s not so much a disdain for intellectualism as it is a culture of political nihilism. Plenty of people believe in paying teachers living wages, socializing health care and other liberal beliefs, but they also firmly believe that those things can’t be done because “it doesn’t matter, both sides are the same” or “it just can’t be done, people won’t accept it.”

I saw a poll a few days ago that asked who should control Congress in 2018, and something like 20% of respondents said "don't care/doesn't matter", which is pretty appalling.
 
Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

It’s not so much a disdain for intellectualism as it is a culture of political nihilism. Plenty of people believe in paying teachers living wages, socializing health care and other liberal beliefs, but they also firmly believe that those things can’t be done because “it doesn’t matter, both sides are the same” or “it just can’t be done, people won’t accept it.”

Free college, teachers get paid! But don't raise my taxes. That is kinda universal, in real practice. Doesn't matter the party. It's a NIMBY thing.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas State Board of Education votes to erase Hillary Clinton from history curriculum <a href="https://t.co/Uga1jmADNp">https://t.co/Uga1jmADNp</a> <a href="https://t.co/aYftDH6L2g">pic.twitter.com/aYftDH6L2g</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1040764415698763777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Yeah why would Helen Keller be important...or Hillary Clinton. But I bet they can learn about Jesus...
 
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Also, the GOP in Texas is ready to introduce another anti-trans "bathroom bill."

Odds it passes when reintroduced: slim to none, but gotta fire up that base, right?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FANS TURN ON WILLIE: Country singer <a href="https://twitter.com/WillieNelson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WillieNelson</a> was called just about every name in the book after announcing he's playing during an upcoming rally for Texas Democratic Senate candidate <a href="https://twitter.com/BetoORourke?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BetoORourke</a>. <a href="https://t.co/vgIv7Fgc0t">https://t.co/vgIv7Fgc0t</a> <a href="https://t.co/iJGcBJptlT">pic.twitter.com/iJGcBJptlT</a></p>— ABC13 Houston (@abc13houston) <a href="https://twitter.com/abc13houston/status/1040120416864534528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Top of the DFL ticket is doing well:

Walz +7
Smith +9
Klobuchar +15
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FANS TURN ON WILLIE: Country singer <a href="https://twitter.com/WillieNelson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WillieNelson</a> was called just about every name in the book after announcing he's playing during an upcoming rally for Texas Democratic Senate candidate <a href="https://twitter.com/BetoORourke?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BetoORourke</a>. <a href="https://t.co/vgIv7Fgc0t">https://t.co/vgIv7Fgc0t</a> <a href="https://t.co/iJGcBJptlT">pic.twitter.com/iJGcBJptlT</a></p>— ABC13 Houston (@abc13houston) <a href="https://twitter.com/abc13houston/status/1040120416864534528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Did they seriously think Willie Nelson was a Republican? He has a marijuana business and probably partakes all the time
 
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