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The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

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scooby said:
What focus? So, we should just bury the story and pretend it never happened. Sure. That's probably why the Wisconsin vote yesterday went the way it did.
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I'm saying her single vote objectively didn't matter and that's why it's not worth spending a lot of time on. As for WI:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Wisconsin Supreme Court judge losing by less than one percent is so ****ing typical. What the **** is wrong with the democratic party that it is institutionally incapable of winning these structurally important races?</p>— Mike Beyer (@MichaelWBeyer) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelWBeyer/status/1113294319090315264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I'm saying her single vote objectively didn't matter and that's why it's not worth spending a lot of time on. As for WI:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Wisconsin Supreme Court judge losing by less than one percent is so ****ing typical. What the **** is wrong with the democratic party that it is institutionally incapable of winning these structurally important races?</p>— Mike Beyer (@MichaelWBeyer) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelWBeyer/status/1113294319090315264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The answer is the democratic electorate is what's wrong. And there seems to be nothing that can be done about it.
 
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No not really, blaming independent individuals for institutional failures is silly.
 
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GrinCDXX said:
What institutional failures are you referring to?
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The fact that a lot of these close important down ballot races almost always seem to go to conservatives tells me that the party needs to do a better job of bringing attention to these races and turning people out. Especially when you're talking about beating a complete bigot which shouldn't be all that difficult even in WI.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As far as I know <a href="https://twitter.com/EricHolder?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EricHolder</a> was only major Dem to campaign for Lisa Neubauer in Wisconsin Supreme Court race. 2020 Dem presidential candidates did nothing. Down ballot races need far more attention <a href="https://t.co/yLBmPeoIol">https://t.co/yLBmPeoIol</a></p>— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) <a href="https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1113470146104918016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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trixR4kids said:
The fact that a lot of these close important down ballot races almost always seem to go to conservatives tells me that the party needs to do a better job of bringing attention to these races and turning people out. Especially when you're talking about beating a complete bigot which shouldn't be all that difficult even in WI.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As far as I know <a href="https://twitter.com/EricHolder?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EricHolder</a> was only major Dem to campaign for Lisa Neubauer in Wisconsin Supreme Court race. 2020 Dem presidential candidates did nothing. Down ballot races need far more attention <a href="https://t.co/yLBmPeoIol">https://t.co/yLBmPeoIol</a></p>— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) <a href="https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1113470146104918016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Did the bigot have superior institutional support though? If not, I think that kind of proves my point. The other side doesn't seem to need to have someone to hold their hand on the way to their polling place.
 
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GrinCDXX said:
Did the bigot have superior institutional support though? If not, I think that kind of proves my point. The other side doesn't seem to need to have someone to hold their hand on the way to their polling place.
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The Dem institution has a habit of ignoring down ballot races and this is just one of many examples.
 
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GrinCDXX said:
Did the bigot have superior institutional support though? If not, I think that kind of proves my point. The other side doesn't seem to need to have someone to hold their hand on the way to their polling place.
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Yup. This one is Not Good. Dems needed this win and one next year to control the state supreme court and therefore redistricting. No hope of that now. Unreal.

In court races you can't run as a partisan, so the ad campaign is by rule going to be vanilla for both candidates. That means it comes down to which voter base wants it more, and in down ballot races unfortunately its Republicans in Wisconsin. With all the razor thin races in WI, it astounds me that people don't realize that their vote counts, or that they could have fundamentally changed the way the state is governed.
 
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Rover said:
Yup. This one is Not Good. Dems needed this win and one next year to control the state supreme court and therefore redistricting. No hope of that now. Unreal.

In court races you can't run as a partisan, so the ad campaign is by rule going to be vanilla for both candidates. That means it comes down to which voter base wants it more, and in down ballot races unfortunately its Republicans in Wisconsin. With all the razor thin races in WI, it astounds me that people don't realize that their vote counts, or that they could have fundamentally changed the way the state is governed.
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I'm sure Perez had his reasons.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Wisconsin is making a case for worst.
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Nah. There's always those two states along the Gulf of Mexico east of the Mississippi River. Individually and collectively, they're all plotting their own destructions.
 
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St. Clown said:
Nah. There's always those two states along the Gulf of Mexico east of the Mississippi River. Individually and collectively, they're all plotting their own destructions.
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West Virginia says hold my still.
 
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burd said:
As someone who is Nodak born, democrat, and living in Wisconsin, I'm feeling the laser dot too.
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You are a weird conundrum. I mean on one hand you were smart enough to leave...on the other hand you CHOSE to move to Paint Thinnerville. I mean even your smart decision was too stupid for words! Only worse idea would be moving to Iowa ;)
 
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Handyman said:
You are a weird conundrum. I mean on one hand you were smart enough to leave...on the other hand you CHOSE to move to Paint Thinnerville. I mean even your smart decision was too stupid for words! Only worse idea would be moving to Iowa ;)
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There is a worse scenario. Sometimes the answer is right there in front of you.

Slap Shot said:
If your wife is from MN you would slightly redeem yourself.
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Michigan. I guess that fits, right?

You both should know I have drunk the Minnie waters. Lived there for a year after undergrad. I remember it as a time of personal growth. The first time in my life I felt smarter than those around me, and I'll always love Minnesota for that.
 
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