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The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!

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This is absolutely precious.

“Even after I left office,” McCrory continued, “people are reluctant to hire me because, ‘oh my gosh, he’s a bigot,’ which is the last thing I am.
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Maybe it's because you are.

I’m actually in some ways rather liberal on some of these issues. I’m a libertarian on many of these issues. But I don’t think a city government or state government or federal government should be able to tell the private sector what the new definition of gender is.”
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Those words you keep using, I do not think you know what they mean.

Some people would have used this as a learning moment. But no, you doubled down on your views. Go **** yourself you bigoted piece of trash.
 
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joecct said:
NJ still has blue laws.
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IINM, blue laws are "blue" because the MA book was blue.

But the high caliber f-ckwittery of the Christian Sharia types emanates from the prairie states and of course (nuke) the south. From Cheyenne to Westboro an iron curtain has descended, blocking people's brains.
 
Kepler said:
IINM, blue laws are "blue" because the MA book was blue.

But the high caliber f-ckwittery of the Christian Sharia types emanates from the prairie states and of course (nuke) the south. From Cheyenne to Westboro an iron curtain has descended, blocking people's brains.
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Just one more way east coast pseudo-intellectual puritans got this country off on the wrong foot.
 
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SJHovey said:
Just one more way east coast pseudo-intellectual puritans got this country off on the wrong foot.
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I'm not fond of the Puritans, but some of them actually were intellectual (though they'd have hated the characterization) -- the first and in some respects still the most intense American intellectuals.

Increase Mather really knew his sh-t. Not much fun at parties, though.
 
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I have to admit, I kind of liked the blue laws when I lived in North Dakota (worked in retail), just like I kind of liked no Sunday liquor sales (football!) in Minnesota when I worked at a liquor store. Neither law should have existed then or now, but we got a ton done in the 4 hours before we opened on Sunday that would have taken at least the full day if we had people in the store shopping.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
I have to admit, I kind of liked the blue laws when I lived in North Dakota (worked in retail), just like I kind of liked no Sunday liquor sales (football!) in Minnesota when I worked at a liquor store. Neither law should have existed then or now, but we got a ton done in the 4 hours before we opened on Sunday that would have taken at least the full day if we had people in the store shopping.
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That's what a lot of people don't realize. While the religious wacko who stands up and makes the speech on the Senate floor gets all the publicity and derision from the left, the real reason repeal of these laws get defeated, behind the scenes, is the Chamber member businesses in there saying we don't want to be open on Sundays. One more day of overhead for the same weekly sales.
 
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Handyman said:
And they still dont have to be open now.
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They don't. I'm not a supporter of blue laws. I think if you want to be open you should be allowed to be open.

But I have a friend who runs a liquor store and he was constantly complaining to me about efforts to allow liquor stores to be open on Sundays in Minnesota, which as you know just passed. He knows he doesn't have to be open, but he also knows the big retailers will be, so to stay competitive he'll have to be as well.

My point was that he (and many other businessmen like him) spent a lot of time fighting against this and couldn't give a rats azz whether they or any of their employees have time to go to church.
 
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SJHovey said:
My point was that he (and many other businessmen like him) spent a lot of time fighting against this and couldn't give a rats azz whether they or any of their employees have time to go to church.
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I always kinda figured this was the case.

I still don't understand the lobby to keep you from pumping your own gas in Oregon and Jersey, though. Cui bono on that comes up "???"
 
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SJHovey said:
They don't. I'm not a supporter of blue laws. I think if you want to be open you should be allowed to be open.

But I have a friend who runs a liquor store and he was constantly complaining to me about efforts to allow liquor stores to be open on Sundays in Minnesota, which as you know just passed. He knows he doesn't have to be open, but he also knows the big retailers will be, so to stay competitive he'll have to be as well.

My point was that he (and many other businessmen like him) spent a lot of time fighting against this and couldn't give a rats azz whether they or any of their employees have time to go to church.
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Oh I know...I just always hated that reasoning. I get it from their standpoint but in reality it makes no sense. Some restaurants choose to not be open on certain holidays or days of the week because of overhead costs and low business and the liquor stores can do the same. It will hurt at first but after a few months things will normalize.

I worked in a bar when the smoking ban hit in certain areas...I heard many of the same worries and complaints.
 
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Handyman said:
I worked in a bar when the smoking ban hit in certain areas...I heard many of the same worries and complaints.
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I was working in Cambridge when they banned smoking in bars. My god, the howler monkeys prophesied the end of the world. And as we all know, everybody gave up drinking and hooking up and all the bars had to close. :rolleyes:
 
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The one that gest me is car sales in MN can't happen on Sundays. When you talk to the car dealers, they want Sunday sales legalized. What's keeping that from happening is that some people like to tour new car lots on Sundays to view the vehicles without being hassled by the sales staff. If I owned a dealership, I might keep a sales person or two on hand just to greet the people who come to the lot. Explain that you can't make the sale that day if asked, but certainly perform the other operations. I really don't see what would prevent that as a number of dealerships have their service shops open on Sundays now.
 
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They don't. I'm not a supporter of blue laws. I think if you want to be open you should be allowed to be open.

But I have a friend who runs a liquor store and he was constantly complaining to me about efforts to allow liquor stores to be open on Sundays in Minnesota, which as you know just passed. He knows he doesn't have to be open, but he also knows the big retailers will be, so to stay competitive he'll have to be as well.

My point was that he (and many other businessmen like him) spent a lot of time fighting against this and couldn't give a rats azz whether they or any of their employees have time to go to church.
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If staying open on Sunday offers no increase in sales why would it be required to remain competitive with those that make the choice? If anything they should be able to have lower costs vs the competition and invariably an opportunity for more competitive pricing.
 
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