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The States: Doing Their Own Thing...

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unofan said:
I don't believe that for a second.

Edit: So you're apparently referencing the AG threatening a fine for businesses who illegally turn over information to the feds.

Key word: illegally.
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Of course you don't believe it. Because all your sources seem to ever push is "Russia Russia Russia" while burying the actual stories about 6 pages in, and you have no desire to go beyond the first 3 sentences without overreacting.

I'm sure we'll have another federal vs. state fight in the courts, and I'll bet a roll of wheat pennies that the interstate commerce clause is going to come up.
 
unofan said:
You seem to know the answers. You tell me. You've fallen back into your "im just asking questions" mode.
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JFC. If California passes a law or the Gov issues an EO that says thou shall not cooperate with the Fed's on immigration enforcement (Sanctuary! - they should call it the Quasimodo Law) and a CA business then complies with Fed immigration law and turns in illegal immigrants, can CA legally fine the business?
 
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joecct said:
JFC. If California passes a law or the Gov issues an EO that says thou shall not cooperate with the Fed's on immigration enforcement (Sanctuary! - they should call Off The Quasimodo Law) and a CA business then complies with Fed immigration law and turns in illegal immigrants, can CA legally fine the business?
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Well you are the one who brought up the "fact" without doing any real research. Why dont you look it up yourself...

Oh the actual information might not jibe with the "point" you are trying to make so you ignored it? Say it isnt so joe...
 
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joecct said:
JFC. If California passes a law or the Gov issues an EO that says thou shall not cooperate with the Fed's on immigration enforcement (Sanctuary! - they should call it the Quasimodo Law) and a CA business then complies with Fed immigration law and turns in illegal immigrants, can CA legally fine the business?
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California believes they can. Person will rat on the business, and California will then sue the business. There will likely be a counter-suit when it comes up. It will go to a federal court. Insert my reply a few posts ago.
 
joecct said:
JFC. If California passes a law or the Gov issues an EO that says thou shall not cooperate with the Fed's on immigration enforcement (Sanctuary! - they should call Off The Quasimodo Law) and a CA business then complies with Fed immigration law and turns in illegal immigrants, can CA legally fine the business?
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Depends on your definition of cooperation. They can't prevent you from responding to a search warrant or subpoena or any other legal request that satisfies due process. They can't make illegal any action mandated by federal law.

If you're asking if they can pass a law allowing the state to fine companies who respond to fishing expeditions by ICE for their employees' personal information without any sort of justification other than "we want this", then yes, California can do that.

But somehow I think you already knew that.
 
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unofan said:
Depends on your definition of cooperation. They can't prevent you from responding to a search warrant or subpoena or any other legal request that satisfies due process.

If you're asking if they can pass a law allowing the state to fine companies who respond to fishing expeditions by ICE for their employees' personal information without any sort of justification other than "we want this", then yes, California can do that.

But somehow I think you already knew that.
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However, you must also take into account what sort of liabilities the company may have when it comes to knowledge that they are harboring someone they know to be illegal, and the feds start asking questions. After all, isn't that the tactic being used in the whole Russia witch hunt?
 
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In somewhat different news, the RI House has put the kibosh on public <strike>extortion</strike>financing of a new AAA baseball park to replace venerable McCoy Stadium in Pawtucket RI.

This paves the way for Worcester, MA to cave to the extortion plans of Larry "Lucky" Lucchino and use public money to build (according to the latest drawings I've seen) Fenway Park Light.
 
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joecct said:
In somewhat different news, the RI House has put the kibosh on public <strike>extortion</strike>financing of a new AAA baseball park to replace venerable McCoy Stadium in Pawtucket RI.

This paves the way for Worcester, MA to cave to the extortion plans of Larry "Lucky" Lucchino and use public money to build (according to the latest drawings I've seen) Fenway Park Light.
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Wow, I guess Curt Schilling really did ruin everything in that state when he left them high and dry using taxpayer funding for his failed video game company!

Having said that, I don't see the state ponying up for anything but infrastructure. If they told Kraft to go screw years back, I don't think they're enamored with the Pawsox. Worcester the city may open the vault and that's up to them. One would think they have more resources than Pawtucket, RI to do so.
 
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Rover said:
Wow, I guess Curt Schilling really did ruin everything in that state when he left them high and dry using taxpayer funding for his failed video game company!

Having said that, I don't see the state ponying up for anything but infrastructure. If they told Kraft to go screw years back, I don't think they're enamored with the Pawsox. Worcester the city may open the vault and that's up to them. One would think they have more resources than Pawtucket, RI to do so.
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I played that game. It was pretty bad.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I played that game. It was pretty bad.
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I'm happy for Schilling's exploits on the field with the Red Sox but he could quite possibly be the stupidest person alive, and that includes Trump. Why anybody would give him money for a business concept that didn't involve throwing a baseball is beyond me. Sadly in a have-and-have-not world, states on the outs are desperate for a shot in the arm. Hence some of the "incentives" thrown at Amazon for their 2nd HQ.
 
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The gun grab will come about the same time as the Walmart death camps that you were hyping up.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Turns out I'm going to have to get a permit* to conceal carry afterall...

*I'm not actually going to get one...or carry
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The amended bill would now simply remove the fee for a lifetime permit and extend the four-year permit to five years. Under the new language, those who pay the fee for the five-year permit would be exempt from future background checks when purchasing a firearm over those next five years.
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That's insane, and I wouldn't support that at all.
 
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trixR4kids said:
The gun grab will come about the same time as the Walmart death camps that you were hyping up.
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Jest all you want, that was part of the 16 year plan. Clearly evidenced by your party's murdering of Antonin Scalia so Obama could get another appointee.
 
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