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The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
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Revenue will trump high falutin principles.
This is right in line with modern conservative tax policy. Lower taxes (for people that will probably vote for us).
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Same reason North Korea manufactures crystal meth for the Chinese black market, as well as their own officials' clandestine use.
Same reason North Korea manufactures crystal meth for the Chinese black market, as well as their own officials' clandestine use.
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Congestion tolls in NYC?
https://wtop.com/national/2018/01/plan-to-relieve-manhattan-gridlock-with-tolls-gains-momentum/
Congestion tolls in NYC?
https://wtop.com/national/2018/01/plan-to-relieve-manhattan-gridlock-with-tolls-gains-momentum/
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Calexit: The plot thickens. https://www.rt.com/usa/416118-new-california-declares-independence/
Calexit: The plot thickens. https://www.rt.com/usa/416118-new-california-declares-independence/
FlagDUDE08
Banned
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The tax revenues seem very over-exaggerated. Sure they might be high in Colorado, but how much is that because of bans in neighboring states? If the neighbors legalize, that revenue becomes heavily diluted.
The tax revenues seem very over-exaggerated. Sure they might be high in Colorado, but how much is that because of bans in neighboring states? If the neighbors legalize, that revenue becomes heavily diluted.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Russia Today, haha. You poor child.
Russia Today, haha. You poor child.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
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If you decided to actually read it instead of sticking to your troll talking points, you might have found the official declaration. https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/720c6a07-3594-44b7-8098-94fc11bae240/downloads/1c3sut5r6_88440.pdf
Russia Today, haha. You poor child.
If you decided to actually read it instead of sticking to your troll talking points, you might have found the official declaration. https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/720c6a07-3594-44b7-8098-94fc11bae240/downloads/1c3sut5r6_88440.pdf
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
I can't get enough of the Party of Family Values. If Pence looks at Trump cross-eyed and gets dropped from the ticket, this "rising star" should be a shoo-in to replace him.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article194918889.html
I can't get enough of the Party of Family Values. If Pence looks at Trump cross-eyed and gets dropped from the ticket, this "rising star" should be a shoo-in to replace him.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article194918889.html
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
But were they Confederate llamas??
@nbcwashington: "It's very distressing." Someone beheaded three llama statues outside a Virginia school. http://nbc4dc.com/Vjos8ar
But were they Confederate llamas??
@nbcwashington: "It's very distressing." Someone beheaded three llama statues outside a Virginia school. http://nbc4dc.com/Vjos8ar
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
First, half of the CA counties leaving CA will never happen. Second, SD is liberal by US standards, has faar more in common with other coastal CA than with small town rural CA, and would vote in a heartbeat to stay. Third, urban CA probably should vote to leave its 50% of rural counterparts not the other way around...rural CA like the same type of counties as elsewhere are really money pits. And while I have no problem with this, its just tiresome to hear them complain as much as they do.
First, half of the CA counties leaving CA will never happen. Second, SD is liberal by US standards, has faar more in common with other coastal CA than with small town rural CA, and would vote in a heartbeat to stay. Third, urban CA probably should vote to leave its 50% of rural counterparts not the other way around...rural CA like the same type of counties as elsewhere are really money pits. And while I have no problem with this, its just tiresome to hear them complain as much as they do.
JF_Gophers
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Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Unfortunately for the New CA, its nearly impossible to form a new state when trying to take land from an existing one.
Requires a lot of lawmakers voting for you.
Unfortunately for the New CA, its nearly impossible to form a new state when trying to take land from an existing one.
Requires a lot of lawmakers voting for you.
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Agreed.
The New CA model relies on duping and then taking advantage of San Diego. Rural counties need to have San Diego to give them enough bodies to get them real representation. But then coupled with the conservatives that do live in SD, conservatives would outweigh the current liberal majority there - leaving it with conservative leadership. To make matters worse for the city...San Diego as with most major cities would earn the tax revenue that is needed to keep the rural counties afloat. A burden which would be placed much more squarely on SD rather than all the coastal cities today. Its really a version of political and economic gerrymandering.
Regardless...it remains in the 'never happenin' bucket.
Agreed.
The New CA model relies on duping and then taking advantage of San Diego. Rural counties need to have San Diego to give them enough bodies to get them real representation. But then coupled with the conservatives that do live in SD, conservatives would outweigh the current liberal majority there - leaving it with conservative leadership. To make matters worse for the city...San Diego as with most major cities would earn the tax revenue that is needed to keep the rural counties afloat. A burden which would be placed much more squarely on SD rather than all the coastal cities today. Its really a version of political and economic gerrymandering.
Regardless...it remains in the 'never happenin' bucket.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
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Living in an area that has a similar issue, the biggest problem that comes is that there are a lot of spending policies that the large cities want to spend on that aren't really a problem in the other parts of the state. Sure, the areas may have ways they think they can make up for it, including "shifting the problems" to the rural counties, but what it really does is creates unnecessary administrative expenses for the other counties. The rural counties are confident that they can be more resourceful without being obligated to fulfill the needs of the cities.
That being said, it is difficult to become a new state. That's why there was a push for "autonomous regions" in New York State as a sort of a way around it: They're still considered one state, but effectively have two separate governments, would likely each have one senator, and would split electoral votes. It's certainly possible that California could explore that route. I don't know how their Constitution allows for handling that.
Living in an area that has a similar issue, the biggest problem that comes is that there are a lot of spending policies that the large cities want to spend on that aren't really a problem in the other parts of the state. Sure, the areas may have ways they think they can make up for it, including "shifting the problems" to the rural counties, but what it really does is creates unnecessary administrative expenses for the other counties. The rural counties are confident that they can be more resourceful without being obligated to fulfill the needs of the cities.
That being said, it is difficult to become a new state. That's why there was a push for "autonomous regions" in New York State as a sort of a way around it: They're still considered one state, but effectively have two separate governments, would likely each have one senator, and would split electoral votes. It's certainly possible that California could explore that route. I don't know how their Constitution allows for handling that.
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