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The PPACA Thread Part VI: Tax Cuts Are More Important Than Your Health Care!

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unofan said:
And I'm saying you don't need to be Scalia or Gorsuch and attempt to divine the founders original intent to read it as I do. You just have to read it as written in plain English.

I think you'd be surprised how much of a landslide it'd be. A clearly written, explicit Constitutional directive is one of the easiest calls for any judge to make. You'd have to really stretch the 14th Amendment to even have a cognizable argument the other way.
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And I'll counter with this. IF this was all true...don't you think the Republicans would have put it in place by now? I mean really, what would be holding them back - their commitment to fair play? :rolleyes:
 
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Not that he needs it, but unofan is 100% right on this one.
 
unofan said:
Article II, Section 1: "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors..."

The "Republican" form of government applies to the makeup of the state government. It doesn't apply to the choosing of electors for the electoral college.

This is also how the national popular vote compact works at the constitutional level. Because the states can apportion their EVs however the Legislature thereof chooses.
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That is a very interesting clause. The State, not the Federal establishment, sets how electors are apportioned.

Most states do Winner takes all. Two, Maine and Nebraska, give the winner of the state 2 EV and then apportion the rest by who wins each CD.

A third method would be that each voter has X number of votes. You vote for each elector individually. So elector 1 is low tax, elector 2 is isolationist, elector 3 is single payer, etc. The electors then give their EV to the candidate they feel best represents their view/position.

Since each State sets their own rules, it is not unconstitutional.
 
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so the nfl commish has 3 demands on his contract talks

50mm a year salary
lifetime use of a private jet
lifetime health insurance for him and his fam


:eek:
 
mookie1995 said:
so the nfl commish has 3 demands on his contract talks

50mm a year salary
lifetime use of a private jet
lifetime health insurance for him and his fam


:eek:
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Ahhh, but not what TYPE of health insurance. Would a low premium high deductible plan work?? :)
 
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mookie1995 said:
so the nfl commish has 3 demands on his contract talks

50mm a year salary
lifetime use of a private jet
lifetime health insurance for him and his fam


:eek:
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I'll take "Overpaid People Who Sit Behind a Desk and Do Nothing" for $1500, please Alex.
 
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Can someone please explain to me how repealing the fine for not having Health Insurance (essentially a tax, the mandate from Obamacare) helps pay for the Tax Cut? I don't get it. Doesn't repealing that mean LESS money for the treasury? So, isn't it a tax cut in itself. They keep describing it as a spending reduction of some sort that helps pay for the Tax Cut. I really do not understand what they are talking about. I hear it on the News channels all the time. "Republicans are eliminating the mandate to help pay for the tax cut" How does that work?
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Can someone please explain to me how repealing the fine for not having Health Insurance (essentially a tax, the mandate from Obamacare) helps pay for the Tax Cut? I don't get it. Doesn't repealing that mean LESS money for the treasury? So, isn't it a tax cut in itself. They keep describing it as a spending reduction of some sort that helps pay for the Tax Cut. I really do not understand what they are talking about. I hear it on the News channels all the time. "Republicans are eliminating the mandate to help pay for the tax cut" How does that work?
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Removing the mandate means fewer people will sign up for Obamacare, saving money on the subsidy side of things.

Yes, you're reading that right. It will save money by letting people forego heavily subsidized health insurance.
 
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unofan said:
Removing the mandate means fewer people will sign up for Obamacare, saving money on the subsidy side of things.

Yes, you're reading that right. It will save money by letting people forego heavily subsidized health insurance.
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ROTFLMAO. You've got to be kidding. They consider that savings?
 
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I got hit with another 15% increase for next year. Thanks Trump.
 
Re: The PPACA Thread Part VI: Tax Cuts Are More Important Than Your Health Care!

unofan said:
Removing the mandate means fewer people will sign up for Obamacare, saving money on the subsidy side of things.

Yes, you're reading that right. It will save money by letting people forego heavily subsidized health insurance.
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I'm going to lower property taxes by burning down a few million houses.
 
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joecct said:
I admit to a WOOSH!, but wouldn't that raise taxes?
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Tax rates, yes. That's the point. Remove the young, healthy people paying into health insurance who currently receive subsidies, while not changing the requirements of what health insurance covers, and what'll happen?
 
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joecct said:
I admit to a WOOSH!, but wouldn't that raise taxes?
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It would decrease the amount taken from The People in property taxes. Because government is, you know, the enemy.

The back up GOP plan is to lower health care expenditures by killing the sick.
 
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