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The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

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If I'm reading this right, the DC appeals court just ruled the states have standing to sue Trump if he axes the CSR payments, so he will have to sabotage the ACA in some slightly less obvious way.
 
Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

If I'm reading this right, the DC appeals court just ruled the states have standing to sue Trump if he axes the CSR payments, so he will have to sabotage the ACA in some slightly less obvious way.

Yeah I'm not sure what Chump was thinking about as anti-ACA nuts have already lost twice at the SCOTUS and the last time I checked the corporate guys (Roberts & Kennedy) + 4 Libs = majority in favor of keeping the payments. Maybe for different reasons but I don't see Roberts voting to put insurance companies out of business.
 
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mookie learned today his new home has free healthcare to all retired people... in the hopes that they WILL retire and open up employment for youngerster :D
 
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GOP suicide mission could be successful this time.

(verifies all loved ones covered under other means)

Fine by me. Break it. Own it.
 
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PASS THE BILL! PASS THE BILL! About time people who either vote Republican or don't vote take it in the shorts. I for one have zero sympathy for them.
 
Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

PASS THE BILL! PASS THE BILL! About time people who either vote Republican or don't vote take it in the shorts. I for one have zero sympathy for them.

We are in violent agreement.

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Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

PASS THE BILL! PASS THE BILL! About time people who either vote Republican or don't vote take it in the shorts. I for one have zero sympathy for them.

Yup! Take it down!

Thank God there is nothing else to worry about that The Senate can try again to repeal. Trying to sneak it in before the CBO can tell people how bad it is (again) is a nice cherry on top!

What this really means is they know they cant get tax reform to pass in any way shape or form so they are going to fight to repeal again and hope they can make the tax cuts revenue neutral and try and slip it in with Reconciliation.
 
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Yup! Take it down!

Thank God there is nothing else to worry about that The Senate can try again to repeal. Trying to sneak it in before the CBO can tell people how bad it is (again) is a nice cherry on top!

What this really means is they know they cant get tax reform to pass in any way shape or form so they are going to fight to repeal again and hope they can make the tax cuts revenue neutral and try and slip it in with Reconciliation.

They want to pass Tax Reform next year under reconciliation and health care this year because they can only do this once a year and they're concerned about holding onto Congress past 2018
 
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They want to pass Tax Reform next year under reconciliation and health care this year because they can only do this once a year and they're concerned about holding onto Congress past 2018

They need to do the heist now; the clock is ticking. That is the sole reason for the GOP ever winning an election. Everything else is negotiable, but not giving the US treasury to the wealthy -- that has been their Divine Mandate since the days of Saint Ronnie.

This time the take will be about $6T, which pushes the total amount stolen by the richest 16k American families from the other 300M citizens to over $25T. The greatest crime in history. Well done, gentlemen. Well done.

We need an app for where those 16k live. It will... come in handy... someday. Should be very easy -- just tap Zillow and pull every private residence worth over $10M. There are a bunch of supertalls in NYC which if they were to somehow fall over would take care of about 100 per. Extremely useful for them to be so thin.

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They want to pass Tax Reform next year under reconciliation and health care this year because they can only do this once a year and they're concerned about holding onto Congress past 2018

They cant wait...they had 2 items on the agenda and they are linked. Without repealing ObamaCare they cant reform the tax code (i.e. cut taxes on the rich) because they wont have the offsetting revenue.
 
Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

They need to do the heist now; the clock is ticking. That is the sole reason for the GOP ever winning an election. Everything else is negotiable, but not giving the US treasury to the wealthy -- that has been their Divine Mandate since the days of Saint Ronnie.

This time the take will be about $6T, which pushes the total amount stolen by the richest 16k American families from the other 300M citizens to over $25T. The greatest crime in history. Well done, gentlemen. Well done.

We need an app for where those 16k live. It will... come in handy... someday. Should be very easy -- just tap Zillow and pull every private residence worth over $10M. There are a bunch of supertalls in NYC which if they were to somehow fall over would take care of about 100 per. Extremely useful for them to be so thin.

lol
 
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PASS THE BILL! PASS THE BILL! About time people who either vote Republican or don't vote take it in the shorts. I for one have zero sympathy for them.

They've learned. Since they're switching Medicaid expansion to block grants, the trick is that money from blue states are going to red states. Graham even highlighted it as a bonus.
 
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They've learned. Since they're switching Medicaid expansion to block grants, the trick is that money from blue states are going to red states. Graham even highlighted it as a bonus.

Problem is he's benefiting 15 states at the expense of 35. If 35 other states were all blue, we wouldn't have the GOP in power. Somebody's getting screwed, most likely places like Louisiana and West Virginia for example who expanded Medicaid and are now going to get it yanked back while a state like Mass already had almost everyone covered before the ACA and most likely can do it again.
 
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I heard an interesting point this morning on either Smerconish or Morning Joe. If this law passes, it would hurt the states who expanded Medicaid (the blue states) and pass a lot of that federal money to the states who didn't (the red states). This bill is a political bailout of the red states who can't make grown up decisions.
 
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I heard an interesting point this morning on either Smerconish or Morning Joe. If this law passes, it would hurt the states who expanded Medicaid (the blue states) and pass a lot of that federal money to the states who didn't (the red states). This bill is a political bailout of the red states who can't make grown up decisions.

Its not that simplistic. It hurts essentially any expansion state. Alaska. West Virginia. Kentucky. Not exactly bastions of liberalism. If this was truly a "lets just stick it to the blue states" effort, the Senate wouldn't be trying to jam it through so quickly. They're hoping the people voting for it don't have time to read it. I've also read Florida gets dinged even though they didn't expand due to the high number of elderly residents currently on the entitlement programs.
 
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Its not that simplistic. It hurts essentially any expansion state. Alaska. West Virginia. Kentucky. Not exactly bastions of liberalism. If this was truly a "lets just stick it to the blue states" effort, the Senate wouldn't be trying to jam it through so quickly. They're hoping the people voting for it don't have time to read it. I've also read Florida gets dinged even though they didn't expand due to the high number of elderly residents currently on the entitlement programs.

Not to mention the red states will blow all the money on state-sponsored Noah's arks and tax breaks for millionaires. The poor in those states will never see a dime. But they vote straight ticket Republican so, not to put too fine a point on it, f-ck them.
 
Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

Its not that simplistic. It hurts essentially any expansion state. Alaska. West Virginia. Kentucky. Not exactly bastions of liberalism. If this was truly a "lets just stick it to the blue states" effort, the Senate wouldn't be trying to jam it through so quickly. They're hoping the people voting for it don't have time to read it. I've also read Florida gets dinged even though they didn't expand due to the high number of elderly residents currently on the entitlement programs.

Well last time they didnt let them read it because they didnt want it leaking. They gave everyone a summary when it went public.

The GOP is praying that the media doesnt have enough time to put out all the information because that will be the death knell. Once the stories about Grandma Apple Pie and Papa War Veteran losing insurance start popping out it is all down hill. Sooner or later Jim Bob Slackjaw realizes he is taking it in the shorts as well and away they go. But this time the added twist is that GOP strongholds like Alaska and WV are not only going to take it in the shorts by having people kicked off but they will pay but the ones who dared expand will pay for the ones who didnt. Once that is dumbed down to the point that the average slob understands it this bill is dead.

This is going to be fun :)
 
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