mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
dude!!!! kennedy WAS a conservative
dude!!!! kennedy WAS a conservative
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The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgiving
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Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
There is certainly truth in that.
dude!!!! kennedy WAS a conservative
There is certainly truth in that.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
A good tradition.
A good tradition.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
I didn't think there were enough stupid people out there for G.W.B to win once, let alone twice.
I didn't think there were enough stupid people out there for G.W.B to win once, let alone twice.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
These guys aren't even GWB, and that's pretty sad. When he ran in 2000, conservatives, corporate stiffs, evangelicals, etc were all on board. Only oddly enough military hawks were unsure of his experience. I know of few rank and file Goopers enthusiastic about voting for either Trump or Cruz. Its not even close.
These guys aren't even GWB, and that's pretty sad. When he ran in 2000, conservatives, corporate stiffs, evangelicals, etc were all on board. Only oddly enough military hawks were unsure of his experience. I know of few rank and file Goopers enthusiastic about voting for either Trump or Cruz. Its not even close.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
Hi, I'm Obama. I filibustered Alito and now I'm calling on all Republicans not to do something so stupid as to filibuster my nominee to the Supreme Court in my last year in office. I approve this message.
Oh, and Trump won't be President and Hillary is not getting spanked in Nevada after being up 60 pts when the race began.
Thanks.
Hi, I'm Obama. I filibustered Alito and now I'm calling on all Republicans not to do something so stupid as to filibuster my nominee to the Supreme Court in my last year in office. I approve this message.
Oh, and Trump won't be President and Hillary is not getting spanked in Nevada after being up 60 pts when the race began.
Thanks.
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How he got elected in late '04 after going into Iraq in early '03 is still a mystery to me, weak opponent aside. It was already perfectly plain that his rationale for invading Iraq did not, as Joe Pesci would have put it, "hold watah."
How he got elected in late '04 after going into Iraq in early '03 is still a mystery to me, weak opponent aside. It was already perfectly plain that his rationale for invading Iraq did not, as Joe Pesci would have put it, "hold watah."
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
War fever. In 2004 the culture was heavy with the stentorian Old Testament God "patriots" deeming anybody who criticized a PRESIDENT DURING WARTIME as a traitor. Oh, and an anti-Semite too, cuz what the hell. In the early stages of a war a large subset of humans becomes indistinguishable from gorillas. The monkey brain is fixated on "honor" and "virility" -- particularly the brains of monkeys who are long past their physiological virility. The human brain is pushed out:
"Words had to change their ordinary meaning and to take that which was now given them. Reckless audacity came to be considered the courage of a loyal ally; prudent hesitation, specious cowardice; moderation was held to be a cloak for unmanliness; ability to see all sides of a question, inaptness to act on any. Frantic violence became the attribute of manliness; cautious plotting, a justifiable means of self-defence. The advocate of extreme measures was always trustworthy; his opponent a man to be suspected. To succeed in a plot was to have a shrewd head, to divine a plot a still shrewder; but to try to provide against having to do either was to break up your party and to be afraid of your adversaries." -- Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, Book III, 3.82
The monkey brain ran the Bush administration, from Cheney and Rumsfeld all the way down to Richard Perle and John Yoo. But they flourished in the early days of the war, before people realized that yet again their sons were sacrificed and a hundred thousand foreign civilians were murdered just to add a few points to the Bush family friends' shares.
War fever. In 2004 the culture was heavy with the stentorian Old Testament God "patriots" deeming anybody who criticized a PRESIDENT DURING WARTIME as a traitor. Oh, and an anti-Semite too, cuz what the hell. In the early stages of a war a large subset of humans becomes indistinguishable from gorillas. The monkey brain is fixated on "honor" and "virility" -- particularly the brains of monkeys who are long past their physiological virility. The human brain is pushed out:
"Words had to change their ordinary meaning and to take that which was now given them. Reckless audacity came to be considered the courage of a loyal ally; prudent hesitation, specious cowardice; moderation was held to be a cloak for unmanliness; ability to see all sides of a question, inaptness to act on any. Frantic violence became the attribute of manliness; cautious plotting, a justifiable means of self-defence. The advocate of extreme measures was always trustworthy; his opponent a man to be suspected. To succeed in a plot was to have a shrewd head, to divine a plot a still shrewder; but to try to provide against having to do either was to break up your party and to be afraid of your adversaries." -- Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, Book III, 3.82
The monkey brain ran the Bush administration, from Cheney and Rumsfeld all the way down to Richard Perle and John Yoo. But they flourished in the early days of the war, before people realized that yet again their sons were sacrificed and a hundred thousand foreign civilians were murdered just to add a few points to the Bush family friends' shares.
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
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No, no, no, no. I've heard it over and over and over again. It was Kerry's fault. I want to have a beer with the Bush man. I don't like John Kerry. Boom White House.
No, no, no, no. I've heard it over and over and over again. It was Kerry's fault. I want to have a beer with the Bush man. I don't like John Kerry. Boom White House.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
There's a big difference between a filibuster that resulted in a floor vote of a Justice and 100% preventing the discussion and vote from happening at all.
I'm fine with anyone who wants to filibuster an Obama nominee. But I seen no justification to not have a committee hearing or the resulting floor vote.
The last time I checked, the President's term is 4 years, and if re-elected 8. Not 3 or the resulting 7.
If there's a war that starts today, Congress can't ask the President to do nothing as Commander-in-Chief until the next President is sworn in.
There's a big difference between a filibuster that resulted in a floor vote of a Justice and 100% preventing the discussion and vote from happening at all.
I'm fine with anyone who wants to filibuster an Obama nominee. But I seen no justification to not have a committee hearing or the resulting floor vote.
The last time I checked, the President's term is 4 years, and if re-elected 8. Not 3 or the resulting 7.
If there's a war that starts today, Congress can't ask the President to do nothing as Commander-in-Chief until the next President is sworn in.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
C'mon!!!! The man banged Morgan Fairchild!!! Bubba only dreams he could nail someone that hot!
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
It's more difficult for Dubya: he knows how to go in but has no clue when or how to withdraw.
It's more difficult for Dubya: he knows how to go in but has no clue when or how to withdraw.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
So he's in to soaking?
So he's in to soaking?
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
No Scott Walker?
No Scott Walker?
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
That's why I said the best GOP strategy would be vet, hearings, "sorry, no consent, try again". Repeat.
That's why I said the best GOP strategy would be vet, hearings, "sorry, no consent, try again". Repeat.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
Hey, I'm just as amazed as anyone that the GOP establishment that should have lost the last two nominations has been neutered this time around.
No Scott Walker?
Hey, I'm just as amazed as anyone that the GOP establishment that should have lost the last two nominations has been neutered this time around.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
Agreed. And it was such an obvious play, with no blowback on them. Instead now they just look like churlish infants and if they back down and have a hearing now -- even a fake one just to run out the clock -- their mouths have written checks their bodies can't cash.
I think they just couldn't resist one more stick in Obama's eye, and figured it helps them with their constituents to be seen to be so contemptuous of him. (Even their useful idiots like Jonah Goldberg are reduced to sniveling "it's all Obama's fault" rather than giving a cogent rationale for their behavior.) Judging by Cruz and Trump's success, they may be right about their constituents, but even if they keep all the kindergartners happy they still come up about 10% short in a general election. The more they caress their base, the more they alienate literally every other electoral category in the country.
Agreed. And it was such an obvious play, with no blowback on them. Instead now they just look like churlish infants and if they back down and have a hearing now -- even a fake one just to run out the clock -- their mouths have written checks their bodies can't cash.
I think they just couldn't resist one more stick in Obama's eye, and figured it helps them with their constituents to be seen to be so contemptuous of him. (Even their useful idiots like Jonah Goldberg are reduced to sniveling "it's all Obama's fault" rather than giving a cogent rationale for their behavior.) Judging by Cruz and Trump's success, they may be right about their constituents, but even if they keep all the kindergartners happy they still come up about 10% short in a general election. The more they caress their base, the more they alienate literally every other electoral category in the country.
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Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
So if we are talking president- how many times has a nominated justice been rejected?
I'm betting that once we get to the second nominee- the R's would be running in more obstructionist areas. Good luck with that.
So if we are talking president- how many times has a nominated justice been rejected?
I'm betting that once we get to the second nominee- the R's would be running in more obstructionist areas. Good luck with that.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
From the omphalos of wisdom:
As of 2010, 151 people have been nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court. Twenty-nine nominees (including one nominated for promotion) have been unsuccessful on at least the first try. Of those 29:
+ 12 were fully considered and formally rejected by the Senate.
+ 7 (including a nomination of an Associate Justice for Chief Justice) were withdrawn by the President before a formal consideration could be taken by the Senate.
+ One of these nominations was withdrawn because of the Ineligibility Clause, but was confirmed after its applicability was no longer an issue.
+ 5 had no action taken on them.
+ One of these was because of a change in the Presidency, but the nomination was resubmitted by the incoming President and confirmed.
+ 3 had formal votes on the nominations that were postponed.
+ One of these nominations was reconsidered after a change in Senate composition and confirmed.
+ 2 had nominations nullified by other circumstances without being formally considered.
These 29 people represent more than 29 individual nominations. For example, President John Tyler (1841–1845) lacked political support in the Senate, resulting in all four of his nominees being unsuccessful, including three who were nominated by Tyler on multiple occasions.
From the omphalos of wisdom:
As of 2010, 151 people have been nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court. Twenty-nine nominees (including one nominated for promotion) have been unsuccessful on at least the first try. Of those 29:
+ 12 were fully considered and formally rejected by the Senate.
+ 7 (including a nomination of an Associate Justice for Chief Justice) were withdrawn by the President before a formal consideration could be taken by the Senate.
+ One of these nominations was withdrawn because of the Ineligibility Clause, but was confirmed after its applicability was no longer an issue.
+ 5 had no action taken on them.
+ One of these was because of a change in the Presidency, but the nomination was resubmitted by the incoming President and confirmed.
+ 3 had formal votes on the nominations that were postponed.
+ One of these nominations was reconsidered after a change in Senate composition and confirmed.
+ 2 had nominations nullified by other circumstances without being formally considered.
These 29 people represent more than 29 individual nominations. For example, President John Tyler (1841–1845) lacked political support in the Senate, resulting in all four of his nominees being unsuccessful, including three who were nominated by Tyler on multiple occasions.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin
The most famous became a verb: Bork-ed.
The most famous became a verb: Bork-ed.
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