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The Power of the SCOTUS Part VII - The Bedrock of the Republic!

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alfablue said:
Yea, convince them of that. Logic does not work. They still have the heebie-geebies about two guys hooking up, so logic and reason goes out their ears.

They seem to think that they are going to be forced into a gay marriage. As opposed to this meaning nothing as they know nobody who is homosexual, so nothing in their life will change.
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My parents were decent, intelligent, kind, and generous of heart. They were also born in the 20's, and the idea of blacks and whites getting married never settled with them. They didn't shout it or volunteer it, but if the topic came up and they were asked about it, they'd say no, to them, that was wrong. They would particularly say it was cruel to the children.

Moral of the story: no matter how cool you are, you're as much a product of the times as anything else. I'm not going to be hard on people who just can't wrap their minds around this. I'm sure 20 years from now there will be something coming to pass that unsettles me. That's one good side effect of limited lifespan: we're done with the world just about when the world is done with us.
 
Kepler said:
The current way is direct election, so the only way it could be different is if it stifled the popular will.

Also, state legislators make House members look like Daniel Webster. No thanks.
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The thought was that Senators are to be Ambassadors from their State. Hence, they are not addressed by name but as "The Senator from...."

We don't pick ambassadors via the ballot box, do we?
 
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joecct said:
The thought was that Senators are to be Ambassadors from their State. Hence, they are not addressed by name but as "The Senator from...."

We don't pick ambassadors via the ballot box, do we?
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Lincoln and Grant took care of the last shreds of state sovereignty. We can debate whether that was a good thing, but in any case that ship has sailed. Maine and Hawaii exchange messages faster than Concord and Lexington could in 1776.
 
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Kepler said:
My parents were decent, intelligent, kind, and generous of heart. They were also born in the 20's, and the idea of blacks and whites getting married never settled with them. They didn't shout it or volunteer it, but if the topic came up and they were asked about it, they'd say no, to them, that was wrong. They would particularly say it was cruel to the children.

Moral of the story: no matter how cool you are, you're as much a product of the times as anything else. I'm not going to be hard on people who just can't wrap their minds around this. I'm sure 20 years from now there will be something coming to pass that unsettles me. That's one good side effect of limited lifespan: we're done with the world just about when the world is done with us.
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I could have written this. My father could not get comfortable with my brother marrying a Guyanese woman of east Indian descent (met her in peace corps) and firmly advised him against it. He married her anyway of course, dashed down to Guyana during a break in med school and had a muslim wedding. My father treated her with kindness and respect, as we all thought he would, and they have been married for 40 plus years.

My children or grandchildren may have an open mind toward Minnesota Gophers, and that thought unsettles me.
 
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burd said:
I could have written this. My father could not get comfortable with my brother marrying a Guyanese woman of east Indian descent (met her in peace corps) and firmly advised him against it. He married her anyway of course, dashed down to Guyana during a break in med school and had a muslim wedding. My father treated her with kindness and respect, as we all thought he would, and they have been married for 40 plus years.

My children or grandchildren may have an open mind toward Minnesota Gophers, and that thought unsettles me.
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Remember its a great day when your children surpass you in life.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Remember its a great day when your children surpass you in life.
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Children with that enlightenment would the first in his bloodline to break the cycle of misfortune.

My parents are in their mid-70s and very conservative. Not Hannity or Rove crazy but I doubt they've voted D since Kennedy. Yet for whatever reason they're fairly socially liberal and while my dad has probably used the term, "fairy" in the last 12 months doesn't object to this ruling. Quite the dichotomy.
 
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SteveP said:
That didn't take long.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those unsure about Alito's and Roberts' comments on the muzzling of the opposition, it began several minutes ago <a href="http://t.co/k7zYjSDaGR">pic.twitter.com/k7zYjSDaGR</a></p>— David Freddoso (@freddoso) <a href="https://twitter.com/freddoso/status/614474458359820288">June 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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And neither did the "walk-back". ;)

Editorial Page Editor John Micek tweeted shortly after the ruling that the newspaper would "no longer accept" or print op-eds and letters to the editor in opposition to same-sex marriage.

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Saying he had been inundated with critical emails and phone calls, Micek then apologized in a column on Saturday morning -- saying they had made a "very genuine attempt at fostering a civil discussion" but recognize that "there are people of good conscience and of goodwill who will disagree with Friday's high court ruling."

He wrote: "They are, and always will be, welcome in these pages, along with all others of goodwill, who seek to have an intelligent and reasoned debate on the issues of the day. These pages, I remind myself finally, belong to the people of Central Pennsylvania. I'm a conduit, I recognize, for them to share their views and to have the arguments that make us better as a people. And all views are -- and always will be -- welcome."
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So the anti-gay crowd just did what they accuse those that want to expand rights of doing. Way to shout them down loud enough to cower to your demands!! How dare you express your opinion and exact change!! FOX News if they report it at all will call it a heroic stance.

All of which proves that we're all more alike than different.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Homosexuality is a product of the feminazi movement. Every single queer ends up feminine in the mind, even the dykes. When these people are unnaturally granted children, if you ever look into it, they first thing they do is attempt to turn the boys feminine, sometimes even going as far as forcing sex changes on them. And for the girls, they don't have that male role model in their lives to guide them and have someone they can really look up to. They are unfit parents, and they cannot naturally have children. Be patient, do not allow them to adopt, let them die out as they pursue their happiness, and we may once again advance our civilization.
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This sounded better in the original German.
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
Homosexuality is a product of the feminazi movement. Every single queer ends up feminine in the mind, even the dykes. When these people are unnaturally granted children, if you ever look into it, they first thing they do is attempt to turn the boys feminine, sometimes even going as far as forcing sex changes on them. And for the girls, they don't have that male role model in their lives to guide them and have someone they can really look up to. They are unfit parents, and they cannot naturally have children. Be patient, do not allow them to adopt, let them die out as they pursue their happiness, and we may once again advance our civilization.
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Homosexuality is a product of the feminazi movement. Every single queer ends up feminine in the mind, even the dykes. When these people are unnaturally granted children, if you ever look into it, they first thing they do is attempt to turn the boys feminine, sometimes even going as far as forcing sex changes on them. And for the girls, they don't have that male role model in their lives to guide them and have someone they can really look up to. They are unfit parents, and they cannot naturally have children. Be patient, do not allow them to adopt, let them die out as they pursue their happiness, and we may once again advance our civilization.
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Do you actually think that?
 
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alfablue said:
Do you actually think that?
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It's probably just a way for him to go to his "happy place" for a few moments. You know, to escape the current situation of the impending New World Order, which is obviously the work of The Gheys. We'll soon find ourselves under martial law and without guns in prison camps because of this. Obama should be announcing his decision to eliminate term limits and become eternal dictator sometime soon, based on previous articles flaggy has posted.
 
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Off the topic of SSM for a bit and back to PPACA.

Is there any incentive to continue with State run exchanges?
 
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Based on what I heard on NPR, if you're a big state, yes. Small state, no. Simply based on costs, but I don't remember too many details from the story.
 
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