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The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

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F*k that noise. Police should get a warrant to open my phone. Even the appointment book seems uber-sketchy to me.
Especially considering that much of the data you have ACCESS to from someone's phone is not actually stored ON the phone. If I had a slip of paper in my pocket with my Google username and password on it, does that give them the right to search my Google account?

Completely agree with you here - they should have to get a warrant.
 
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F*k that noise. Police should get a warrant to open my phone. Even the appointment book seems uber-sketchy to me.

And it's yet another reason to password protect your phone. Yes, that can be hacked, but they certainly can't do it on site.
 
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Especially considering that much of the data you have ACCESS to from someone's phone is not actually stored ON the phone. If I had a slip of paper in my pocket with my Google username and password on it, does that give them the right to search my Google account?

Completely agree with you here - they should have to get a warrant.

I didn't even consider that. Jeebus this could be a scary ruling. Hopefully the justices see how dangerous this could be and slam the door on it. Scalia, in his scathing dissent on anonymous 911 calls, gives me hope but I know Thomas and Alito already have Viagara-induced hard-ons for this law.
 
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And it's yet another reason to password protect your phone. Yes, that can be hacked, but they certainly can't do it on site.
Also another example of why you shouldn't photograph yourself at the scene of a crime, with large quantities of drugs or weapons, or with stolen property. :p
 
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I suppose that some might say that the police should impound the cell phone without looking at it and then apply for a warrant.....


That would be my guess as to the proper procedure here. Presumably doesn't it work the same way if you have a warrant for someone's apartment and their cell phone is there. Can't the cops seize it and then check it out if it was found as part of the search???
 
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That would be my guess as to the proper procedure here. Presumably doesn't it work the same way if you have a warrant for someone's apartment and their cell phone is there. Can't the cops seize it and then check it out if it was found as part of the search???

Depends on how the warrant was written. I think.

I have less of a problem with the phone being seized and then submit a warrant. As long as it's not accessed before the warrant.
 
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If the goal is accurate elections, then the test for any new law respecting the right to vote should be simple. Does it prevent more fraudulent votes from being made than it discourages legitimate voters from casting? Since voting is a fundamental right, the burden is on the party pushing for the new measure to show that this is the case.

If it can't meet that simple test, then the law is pointless since it makes the results worse (ie who cares about those 4 fraudulent votes if you're keeping 100 actual voters from voting - the net result is negative).

From Wisconsin today.



http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/wisconsin-voter-id-law-106153.html?hp=l9
 
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The federal judge who struck down Pennsylvania's gay marriage ban must be a flaming liberal, socialist Muslin.
 
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The federal judge who struck down Pennsylvania's gay marriage ban must be a flaming liberal, socialist Muslin.
I believe every judge who has struck the bans has cited Justice Kennedy's DOMA opinion. Anyone who read his opinion could see the handwriting on the wall as he cited the 14th Amendment in the opinion.
 
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I believe every judge who has struck the bans has cited Justice Kennedy's DOMA opinion. Anyone who read his opinion could see the handwriting on the wall as he cited the 14th Amendment in the opinion.

I have heard that he cited Scalia, but I have no idea. Obviously an Obama appointee.
 
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I believe every judge who has struck the bans has cited Justice Kennedy's DOMA opinion. Anyone who read his opinion could see the handwriting on the wall as he cited the 14th Amendment in the opinion.

That bastage.
 
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I believe every judge who has struck the bans has cited Justice Kennedy's DOMA opinion. Anyone who read his opinion could see the handwriting on the wall as he cited the 14th Amendment in the opinion.
Hey, what can you expect when people cite a California liberal.
 
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The nurses have apparently given OP the good stuff tonight since he hasn't bitten.

Actually, the federal judge who heard this case was a GW Bush appointee, praised by Rick Santorum and cited Justice Scalia in his ruling. I can't wait for heads to explode when bible-thumpers try to assimilate this contradictory information.
 
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I have heard that he cited Scalia, but I have no idea. Obviously an Obama appointee.
IIRC Scalia cited Kennedy saying something to the effect that by invoking the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause in DOMA, there was no way any marriage laws could stand.
 
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Big-time ruling in California today.

LOS ANGELES—In a closely watched court case that challenged California's strong teacher employment protections, a group of nine students have prevailed against the state and its two largest teachers' unions.

A California Superior Court on Tuesday found that all the state laws challenged in the case were unconstitutional.
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The student plaintiffs in Vergara v. California argued that the statutes protecting teachers' jobs serve more often to keep poor instructors in the schools—hurting students' chances to succeed.

Citing the Supreme Court's landmark Brown v. Board of Education ruling, Superior Court Judge Rolf M. Treu wrote in his decision that the laws in the case "impose a real and appreciable impact on the students' fundamental right to equality of education." The decision also agreed with the plaintiffs' arguments that the poorest teachers tend to end up in economically underprivileged schools and "impose a disproportionate burden on poor and minority students."
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Among the laws challenged in the case was California's "Last-In, First-Out" layoff statute, which requires layoffs based on seniority rather than classroom performance. Also challenged were complex dismissal statutes for ineffective teachers that plaintiffs described as costly, burdensome and involving "a borderline infinite number of steps."
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Research has pointed to teacher quality as the biggest in-school determinant for student performance.


To over-simplify, allowing ineffective teachers to remain in the classroom has now been found to be de facto discrimination against minorities and the poor.

Will this ruling encourage people in other states to bring similar suits?
 
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Do they mean that the least financially well-off (poorest) teachers end up in the economically disadvantaged districts, or that the least effective (poorest) teachers end up there? Either way, a very poor (irony intended) choice of words.
 
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Do they mean that the least financially well-off (poorest) teachers end up in the economically disadvantaged districts, or that the least effective (poorest) teachers end up there? Either way, a very poor (irony intended) choice of words.
I think they were saying that the least effective teachers disproportionately end up in minority and economically disadvantaged districts. Quite an interesting ruling, though I'm struggling a little to get on board with the thought that tenure rules are discriminatory to kids, not just unfortunate for kids. I'm sure the unions will be appealing this with great vigor, so it'll be tied up a good while.
 
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How do they plan to change this? Pay every teacher the same no matter where they teach? Force a teacher who could earn X at school Y to teach for .8X at school Z?
 
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