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The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier

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Hey question for all USCHO Knuckledraggers (Opie, Fishy, Clown, etc).

You all seem to be hitting the same theme (the voter fraud boogeyman) at the same time. As its unlikely any one of you could coordinate a one car funeral on your own, I'm curious which right wing media outlet is telling you to do this. Rush? Drudge? Hannity? Beck? Since this is such a pressing issue, you won't mind enlightening the rest of us as to which of these truth tellers we should be listening to on this subject... :D
 
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FreshFish said:
I suppose one could just go to Wikipedia and then cite the sources that are cited there, eh? :rolleyes:
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I don't generally mind it, given that most people around here just throw opinions around without any sort of citation. Wiki is certainly better than no citation at all.
 
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Kepler said:
I agree with this to a point. People are never entirely separate from their times. Lincoln wanted to deport all the blacks back to Africa and believed they could never be truly equal to whites. Born in 1959, that would make him a virulent racist. Born in 1809, that would make him born in 1809. Sanger's views on immigration and eugenics were quite typical of her times. Her views on birth control and the sexual liberation of women were ahead of her time -- though not radically. Note for example that she opposed abortion (given the state of medicine at the time I'm not surprised) and was terrified of masturbation for the same sort of "Victorian Christianity hygiene" reasons that were typical of the turn of the century.

I do enjoy any debate in which the far right makes common cause with Angela Davis. :)
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I have no idea what Angela Davis has to do with anything I said. But, as I said before, Sanger wasn't crazy in some of her views, but things like wanting to exterminate Negros kind of overshadow the other stuff, at least in my book. Maybe not such a big deal to some folks, particularly those in the pro-abortion Planned Parenthood crowd.
 
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Bob Gray said:
I have no idea what Angela Davis has to do with anything I said. But, as I said before, Sanger wasn't crazy in some of her views, but things like wanting to exterminate Negros kind of overshadow the other stuff, at least in my book. Maybe not such a big deal to some folks, particularly those in the pro-abortion Planned Parenthood crowd.
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I don't really know all that many people who are pro-abortion, but I could see where Sanger might be interesting to them...just like Stalin or some other ruthless dictator might be appealing to those in the anti-choice crowd. :p:D:D
 
Bob Gray said:
I have no idea what Angela Davis has to do with anything I said. But, as I said before, Sanger wasn't crazy in some of her views, but things like wanting to exterminate Negros kind of overshadow the other stuff, at least in my book. Maybe not such a big deal to some folks, particularly those in the pro-abortion Planned Parenthood crowd.
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Yes, because clearly anyone who believes women should have the right to control their own bodies wants to "exterminate the Negros." :rolleyes:

Your implication is way more offensive than anything you accused me of, Bob.
 
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Rover said:
Hey question for all USCHO Knuckledraggers (Opie, Fishy, Clown, etc).

You all seem to be hitting the same theme (the voter fraud boogeyman) at the same time. As its unlikely any one of you could coordinate a one car funeral on your own, I'm curious which right wing media outlet is telling you to do this. Rush? Drudge? Hannity? Beck? Since this is such a pressing issue, you won't mind enlightening the rest of us as to which of these truth tellers we should be listening to on this subject... :D
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It's actually been an evergreen topic in the Echo Chamber for a while. If you can stand the stench, just trawl a dozen Freep posts on any given topic and you will read, often verbatim, 90% of the talking points that pop up here among the Neanderati.
 
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Bob Gray said:
I have no idea what Angela Davis has to do with anything I said.
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Angela Davis came up with the charge that Sanger wanted to wipe out the black people, based on a passage taken out of context from Sanger's personal correspondence. The John Birch Society then adopted it and started injecting it into the debate. Like lots of other JBS stuff, it was regarded as lunacy by the "polite right" (including Saint Ronnie) in the 70s, but today it's part of RW conventional wisdom. See also: "welfare plantations," anti-vax, dirty rotten commies in DOS, the War on Religion, etc...
 
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unofan said:
And since it's such common knowledge that there was fraud in Minn. six years ago, you should have no problem finding a non right wing cite to support that, right?
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I don't know about six years ago, but here is a relatively recent story from Minnesota about some questionable voter registration, reported by the StarTribune, not necessarily known as a right wing rag. What's somewhat interesting about the story is that it was one Democrat vs. another Democrat in these allegations (primary election).

http://www.startribune.com/local/west/265313621.html
 
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Bob Gray said:
I have no idea what Angela Davis has to do with anything I said. But, as I said before, Sanger wasn't crazy in some of her views, but things like wanting to exterminate Negros kind of overshadow the other stuff, at least in my book. Maybe not such a big deal to some folks, particularly those in the pro-abortion Planned Parenthood crowd.
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Thomas Jefferson wasn't crazy in some of his views, but things like wanting to own slaves and father children with them kind of overshadow the other stuff, at least in my book. Maybe not such a big deal to some folks, particularly those in the pro-Democracy crowd.
 
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LynahFan said:
Thomas Jefferson wasn't crazy in some of his views, but things like wanting to own slaves and father children with them kind of overshadow the other stuff, at least in my book. Maybe not such a big deal to some folks, particularly those in the pro-Democracy crowd.
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Hemmings set him up. The black community has such notoriously loose morals. Why hasn't Obama spoken out about it?! I'm only asking the question.
 
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LynahFan said:
Thomas Jefferson wasn't crazy in some of his views, but things like wanting to own slaves and father children with them kind of overshadow the other stuff, at least in my book. Maybe not such a big deal to some folks, particularly those in the pro-Democracy crowd.
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Must spread rep....
 
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Kepler said:
Angela Davis came up with the charge that Sanger wanted to wipe out the black people, based on a passage taken out of context from Sanger's personal correspondence. The John Birch Society then adopted it and started injecting it into the debate. Like lots of other JBS stuff, it was regarded as lunacy by the "polite right" (including Saint Ronnie) in the 70s, but today it's part of RW conventional wisdom. See also: "welfare plantations," anti-vax, dirty rotten commies in DOS, the War on Religion, etc...
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Hey, Sanger's own words say what they say, and it's not taken out of context, it's quoted directly from one of her books. Please explain the basis for your claim that it's taken out of context. What context makes it ok to advocate for the extermination of a minority group?

And it's not like it's only one quote from her, there's lot of other similarly offensive quotes, not to mention her associations with the Nazis. It's really ok to say she was awful in certain ways. Not everyone on your side of issues is perfect. Seriously. I have to say this is amusing. Before folks have always said it's just ancient history with Sanger and her horrible views on minorities, handicapped people, and anyone else she viewed as inferior. Maybe it's just by chance that her clinics targeted minority neighborhoods? There really are people in 2014 who are willing to defend her. So much for progressivism.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Maybe it's just by chance that her clinics targeted minority neighborhoods?
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You do realize it was local black activists who asked Sanger to set up shop there, right?

There is something counter-intuitive in promoting the idea that liberals are using birth control to suppress their own numbers. Birth control has done more to keep conservatives in the electoral game for as long as they have been. If Erica and Theodore Marxist had been having Duggar households for the last 40 years, there wouldn't be a GOP Congressman north of Raleigh today.
 
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Kepler said:
You do realize it was local black activists who asked Sanger to set up shop there, right?

There is something counter-intuitive in promoting the idea that liberals are using birth control to suppress their own numbers. Birth control has done more to keep conservatives in the electoral game for as long as they have been. If Erica and Theodore Marxist had been having Duggar households for the last 40 years, there wouldn't be a GOP Congressman north of Raleigh today.
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Conservatives tend to practice their own form of birth control, which is known as "celibate not by choice" ;) Unless they reproduce asexually, most of them are out of luck. :D :D :D One wonders if that's why they're so angry all the time....
 
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joecct said:
Hear! Hear! For a California judge.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-be-worth-the-parchment-on-which-its-written/
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Ha!

Police can sometimes conduct warrantless searches under extreme circumstances known as “exigent circumstances.” For example, a passing police officer might overhear someone being beaten inside a home. If he reasonably believe someone was in eminent danger, he could enter without a warrant. Lake County attempted to use the exigent circumstance exception. The exigent circumstance? A water shortage.

The county had argued that the exigent circumstances exception should apply due to the state’s ongoing water crisis and the large amount of water use attributed to marijuana grows. Henderson said the county could easily have obtained a warrant and followed Ordinance No. 2997′s five-day nonsummary abatement procedure to stop the water usage.

The county also argued that it shouldn’t be required to follow that protocol because – and this is particularly rich – it didn’t know how. And learning a new procedure would just be too much work. It would be easier to just short-shrift the Fourth Amendment.
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