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The Political Pendulum

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Kepler said:
A change is gonna come, but it's not gong to come from the US. As we fill our kids' heads full of 3rd century idiocy, the rest of the world will slowly but inexorably clean our clocks and leave us in the technological dust. America has been turning inwards, like Ming China, even since the 1970s. The transformative changes of the future will come from other places, as we happily slurp our big gulps in Spengler's Junk Yard of Stillborn Civilizations.
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I get your general point...but in fact that's not exactly the case. Silicon valley is brimming with ventures surrounding environmental technologies. I'm pretty sure most would be absolutely floored if they knew all the environmental projects that are underway (I've seen a tiny glimpse). We will invent the early environmental future. Whether we can own its roll out or its monetization remains to be seen.

Like much of the rest of this country, environmental innovation is in a two speed mode (lightning speed and backwards).
 
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WASHINGTON — Sen. Ted Cruz and three other Republican senators voted on Thursday against a non-binding Senate resolution affirming that the United States does not use religious tests for immigrants seeking admission into the country.
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Applicant: Hi, I'd like asylum.
US Gov't: Why?
Applicant: Religious persecution.
US Gov't: Really?
Applicant: Yeah, I'm a Catholic living in Vatican City ... < bah-dump-bump ... TING! > ... :D

Please don't try to tell me that "religion" questions regarding immigration and asylum aren't asked today, and aren't used in decisions today.

Singling one religion as an exclusionary is the issue.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Applicant: Hi, I'd like asylum.
US Gov't: Why?
Applicant: Religious persecution.
US Gov't: Really?
Applicant: Yeah, I'm a Catholic living in Vatican City ... < bah-dump-bump ... TING! > ... :D

Please don't try to tell me that "religion" questions regarding immigration and asylum aren't asked today, and aren't used in decisions today.

Singling one religion as an exclusionary is the issue.
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I don't disagree.

What I find sickening is that a vote on that was considered necessary by anyone in our Congress.
 
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Slap Shot said:
If Obama is your equal and opposite pendulum swing...
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From his point of view he probably is.

By 20th century standards Obama is a centrist and Dubya was very far right. But if you are fairly far to the right then from you, as the origin, they are equidistant. From my point of view, Obama is to the right and Dubya took the crazytrain to Looneyville.

It's all in the eye of the beholder.
 
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Kepler said:
If you're going to blow your political capital on anything, Obamacare is a good thing to do it on. With the exception of re-adopting an Eisenhower Era progressive tax structure, nothing could have benefited more Americans in a more significant way.

The Republicans' 8-year long crying jag about Obama is certainly preventing America from addressing serious problems, but health care was a once-in-a-century atomic bomb that we are now on the road to defusing. America seems to only be able to handle one important thing every 40 years: independence, plutocracy round I, slavery, plutocracy round II, global fascism, civil rights, health care. The next one up looks to be plutocracy, round III because that cancer can never be cured, but only forced into remission.
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Kepler, as an astronomer you should realize that we do not have to worry about a plutocracy at this time. Pluto isn't even a planet currently. :p

This is the closet that I intend to be involved in a political discussion on a hockey board.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Kepler, as an astronomer you should realize that we do not have to worry about a plutocracy at this time. Pluto isn't even a planet currently. :p

This is the closet that I intend to be involved in a political discussion on a hockey board.
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Nice planetoid. :mad:
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The last cooperating that went on was the Democrats with GW.
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Interesting that you would frame it that way. GW never said, "Elections have consequences, and we won." for example, as his reason not to cooperate with the other side. In the early days of 2008, the Republicans humbly offered a few of their best ideas, and were totally brushed aside and snubbed. Nice try in rewriting the historical record thou

The historical record also shows that GW was the one that reached out to Dems whenever he knew that they favored something that also mattered to him. I doubt Ted Kennedy came to GW about No Child Left Behind, for example. Even when he had majorities, he sought out Dems on important points because he wanted the bipartisan support even when he didn't "need" it. That was his record as governor in TX as well.

But so it goes. No matter what you or I may think, the bigger point is that the electorate in 2010 seems to have concluded that the Dems overreached from 2008-2010 and weren't to be trusted to control the House.
 
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unofan said:
Come again?
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If you keep quoting this jackwagon my Ignore is not effective.

You can save the time of reading the FFbot by going to RCP and reading the righty talking points of the day. They appear as every other entry on the day's article list, and they come from the WSJ, NRO, Federalist, Daily Mail, Weekly Standard, etc.

Literally everything the FFbot has ever thought, let alone typed, is in those articles -- often just in the headline so the bot is not overly tasked.
 
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Fishy's still mad because Justice Roberts didn't have the decency to send flowers the next morning after reaming him with that Obamacare ruling.... :D Its been 6 months Fishy - might be time to move on. :eek:
 
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LOL.

Marine Le Pen, the leader of France’s far-right National Front party, said Thursday that GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump’s proposal to prevent Muslims from visiting or immigrating to the U.S. was too extreme.

“Have you ever heard me say something like that?” Le Pen asked during an interview on a French TV program, according to The New York Times. “I defend all the French people in France, regardless of their origin, regardless of their religion.”
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