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The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
True but that one streach was crucial to maine hockey over the next 5-6 years. many kids were lined up to leave and he kept the course. Could have turned into a donneybrook and when Shawn came back there could have been 3 walkons staring at him.
His game has never been to please the fans. players love him though
“The proudest moment I had in my tenure as interim head coach was at my press conference [when I was leaving] . Every single kid came up to that room and listened to me talk to the media for about half an hour. They waited for me to get done, and they all shook my hand and gave me a hug. That to me is why you’re in college athletics, to be able to have that relationship with players.”
Afterwards, Bourque said to Cronin, “I’ve never seen kids so devastated by somebody leaving. They may not say it because they want to make sure that they’re respectful of Shawn, but those kids are crushed.”
“From a human perspective,” said Cronin, “I think it’s great. When you have that kind of impact on kids, you’ve obviously done something very well to influence them in a healthy way.”
Dec. 26, 1996 — “Last July when I was entertaining some other opportunities, people were trying to keep me at Maine,” said Greg Cronin, who served a year as Maine’s interim head coach before recently taking a position with USA Hockey. “They were very disappointed that I might leave. Now a lot of people have opened the door and let me leave because we’re 7-7-1 and as far as they’re concerned, I haven’t done a very good job.”
"Greg Cronin saved Maine hockey."
— Maine Sports Information Director Matt Bourque
The dichotomy between Cronin’s supporters — like Bourque and athletic director Suzanne Tyler — and his detractors speaks volumes. Those who choose to look only at the surface see the Black Bears’ .500 record under Cronin this year and their even worse standing in Hockey East (2-5-1 for seventh place). Then they look at Shawn Walsh’s legendary track record. To them, the difference in results tells all they need to know.
“He did a fabulous job here,” countered Walsh, who returned Dec. 24. “You can get an idea for how highly he’s respected in the hockey community by [the fact that USA Hockey hired him.] I don’t think it’s coincidental that USA Hockey opened up the position for him right when he left here. They obviously held onto that position for him because they wanted him on their staff.”
“I’m not sure if people who haven’t been around our program understand the adversity and challenges that Greg went through,” said Bourque. “It would have been easy for things to fall apart so badly that we couldn’t put it all back together. If we’re successful ten years down the road, a lot of people will have forgotten about him, but he’s the guy who will have held it all together. Greg
True but that one streach was crucial to maine hockey over the next 5-6 years. many kids were lined up to leave and he kept the course. Could have turned into a donneybrook and when Shawn came back there could have been 3 walkons staring at him.
His game has never been to please the fans. players love him though
“The proudest moment I had in my tenure as interim head coach was at my press conference [when I was leaving] . Every single kid came up to that room and listened to me talk to the media for about half an hour. They waited for me to get done, and they all shook my hand and gave me a hug. That to me is why you’re in college athletics, to be able to have that relationship with players.”
Afterwards, Bourque said to Cronin, “I’ve never seen kids so devastated by somebody leaving. They may not say it because they want to make sure that they’re respectful of Shawn, but those kids are crushed.”
“From a human perspective,” said Cronin, “I think it’s great. When you have that kind of impact on kids, you’ve obviously done something very well to influence them in a healthy way.”
Dec. 26, 1996 — “Last July when I was entertaining some other opportunities, people were trying to keep me at Maine,” said Greg Cronin, who served a year as Maine’s interim head coach before recently taking a position with USA Hockey. “They were very disappointed that I might leave. Now a lot of people have opened the door and let me leave because we’re 7-7-1 and as far as they’re concerned, I haven’t done a very good job.”
"Greg Cronin saved Maine hockey."
— Maine Sports Information Director Matt Bourque
The dichotomy between Cronin’s supporters — like Bourque and athletic director Suzanne Tyler — and his detractors speaks volumes. Those who choose to look only at the surface see the Black Bears’ .500 record under Cronin this year and their even worse standing in Hockey East (2-5-1 for seventh place). Then they look at Shawn Walsh’s legendary track record. To them, the difference in results tells all they need to know.
“He did a fabulous job here,” countered Walsh, who returned Dec. 24. “You can get an idea for how highly he’s respected in the hockey community by [the fact that USA Hockey hired him.] I don’t think it’s coincidental that USA Hockey opened up the position for him right when he left here. They obviously held onto that position for him because they wanted him on their staff.”
“I’m not sure if people who haven’t been around our program understand the adversity and challenges that Greg went through,” said Bourque. “It would have been easy for things to fall apart so badly that we couldn’t put it all back together. If we’re successful ten years down the road, a lot of people will have forgotten about him, but he’s the guy who will have held it all together. Greg
northeastern
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
Nice info on Coach Cronin.. i have to tell you, even today.. most players at NU feel the same way about him. The head coach's job must not be to please the fans, just stick to plan.
I think even with Whitehead's ups & downs.. i do not think you guys have a bad coach either. Actually he's pretty decent. And we have a keeper as well. My opinion of course..
Maine's playing great hockey right now. I think my Huskies have their work cut out for them this wknd.
Nice info on Coach Cronin.. i have to tell you, even today.. most players at NU feel the same way about him. The head coach's job must not be to please the fans, just stick to plan.
I think even with Whitehead's ups & downs.. i do not think you guys have a bad coach either. Actually he's pretty decent. And we have a keeper as well. My opinion of course..
Maine's playing great hockey right now. I think my Huskies have their work cut out for them this wknd.
sandiegoblkbr
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
Out with the old and in with the new.
The new guys aren't drinking the TIMMAY kool-aid.
Out with the old and in with the new.
The new guys aren't drinking the TIMMAY kool-aid.
maineblackbear
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interesting thread. the looming possibility is that both sides on the Timmay dispute are correct. that he was not a good coach or game manager for the last several years, but that he is learning. it is possible that he has had to internalize some of the criticism regarding the idiosyncracies of his style of play (see KIA's post for excellent explanation of obvious changes) and that he has learned. (Hey, I am Gonzaga grad, too-- and this year is Mark Few's best job working refs and clock managing--people learn--maybe Timmay is learning and all the criticism will have been good-- I learn from critiques--why wouldn't he?). thanks for reading-- mbb
interesting thread. the looming possibility is that both sides on the Timmay dispute are correct. that he was not a good coach or game manager for the last several years, but that he is learning. it is possible that he has had to internalize some of the criticism regarding the idiosyncracies of his style of play (see KIA's post for excellent explanation of obvious changes) and that he has learned. (Hey, I am Gonzaga grad, too-- and this year is Mark Few's best job working refs and clock managing--people learn--maybe Timmay is learning and all the criticism will have been good-- I learn from critiques--why wouldn't he?). thanks for reading-- mbb
mainescores
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
So let me get this straight that {A.} Shawn Walsh never asked Jeff Jackson about taking over the UM Hockey program.....and {B.} That Jackson declined because of the inpending situation he was in along with the Illness in his family that he could not put forth the total effort in coming into the UM program and finally...{C.} That people don't continue to work even when there is a Illness to one of there family members....................
rufus
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
Right, and when Shawn came back, that same Maine team had maybe the best record in college hockey over the last half of the season.
Right, and when Shawn came back, that same Maine team had maybe the best record in college hockey over the last half of the season.
Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
It's never been black and white. He can't move from great coach to poor coach and back again. It's impossible that he was the worst coach in America while going to 3 Frozen Fours in 4 years and it's also impossible that he's the best coach in America while putting together 2 straight DNQs and losses to Union and Bentley.
He is what his record says he is, and at Maine that record says he's an above average coach. He's closing in on 200 wins which in 9 years is pretty darn good.
None of them are won in a vaccuum. You can't look at 2007-09 without the context of the first six seasons, just like you can't look at all the Frozen Fours without the context of the swoons and the two 13 win campaigns.
It's never been black and white. He can't move from great coach to poor coach and back again. It's impossible that he was the worst coach in America while going to 3 Frozen Fours in 4 years and it's also impossible that he's the best coach in America while putting together 2 straight DNQs and losses to Union and Bentley.
He is what his record says he is, and at Maine that record says he's an above average coach. He's closing in on 200 wins which in 9 years is pretty darn good.
None of them are won in a vaccuum. You can't look at 2007-09 without the context of the first six seasons, just like you can't look at all the Frozen Fours without the context of the swoons and the two 13 win campaigns.
Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
JIM-MY HOW-ARD!!!! CLAP, CLAP, CLAP CLAP CLAP
JIM-MY HOW-ARD!!!! CLAP, CLAP, CLAP CLAP CLAP
walrus
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
Sure was fun sitting behind him for two periods every game,
Sure was fun sitting behind him for two periods every game,
Hockeypuck
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
Speaking of Howard if you have the NHL network Detroit plays St Louis tonight at 7:30 with Howard in net and St Louis has some guy named Kariya.
Speaking of Howard if you have the NHL network Detroit plays St Louis tonight at 7:30 with Howard in net and St Louis has some guy named Kariya.
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
Grant really got around...he recruited and coached goalies at Maine, BC and BU. That's impressive. Did he recruit Roloson and Terreri too?
Grant really got around...he recruited and coached goalies at Maine, BC and BU. That's impressive. Did he recruit Roloson and Terreri too?
sandiegoblkbr
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
That's what I was thinking........
That's what I was thinking........
Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
he said we could thank Grant for all of the studs "there"
I did not read that to include DiPetro and Schneider.
what is the deal with Wear black on Saturday this weekend?
he said we could thank Grant for all of the studs "there"
I did not read that to include DiPetro and Schneider.
what is the deal with Wear black on Saturday this weekend?
Hockeypuck
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
Maine is unveiling a new black jersey.
northeastern
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Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!
..if this is true, (NU's away jerseys are black as well).. they'd better have some "pinnies" available..
oh what the heck.. it'll make for exciting hockey
..if this is true, (NU's away jerseys are black as well).. they'd better have some "pinnies" available..
oh what the heck.. it'll make for exciting hockey
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