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The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!

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Maine picks up 8 points in today's poll. A step in the right direction.:)


The west is best ? If Maine hangs on or improves in the standings in HE, do you think that they will get some respect?
 
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Only time will tell whether this is a turn around year or not. It's nice to see more then one scoring line which why they are doing so well. Scott Darling is the key I think. If he continues to play well and is consistant, then they have great chance to play a lot of hockey in March!

I'm glad Coach Whitehead doesn't read USCHO message boards. But I'm sure he's aware of the morons who post on here and have posted on here, since the first day he started Coaching at Maine. Their will always be a handfull of fans who won't let Shawn Walsh, RIP. You can't bring Shawn back people, and as I've said before he hand picked Tim Whitehead for a reason. I think he knew things weren't going to turn out well for him, but he wanted the program in good hands if he didn't win his fight with cancer. The last two years haven't been very good and Coach Whitehead has said many times it was not exceptable for this program, so he made the necessary changes to make things better. Recruiting appears to be getting better, the hire of Bob Corkum looks to be a brilliant move, and this team appears to be buying into Coach Whitehead's system of defense first. Defense first will always give you a chance to win even against superior opponents.

So let's look at Coach Whitehead's UMaine Coaching resume. Two National Title appearences, Four Frozen 4 appearences and six trips to the NCAA tournament if my count is correct? Not many Coaches get fired with those kinds acheivements on their resumes. UMaine would be the laughing stock of college hockey if they allowed some crazy bandwagon jumping fans, to dictate how to run their very successful college hockey program. Every great program has down years. Minnesota had a down year last year, BC and BU have had them from time to time, and do see some of the mentally challenged fans from BC or BU, getting Coach York or Coach Parker fired when things don't go well? There is still a lot of season left, but if this team stays healthy and continues to play hard they will have a shot to win Hockey East and return to the NCAA tournament.
...Just to make it clear...Whitehead was picked after JEFF JACKSON could not take the job because of a Illness in his side of the family.....
 
Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!

Thinking about taking my girlfriend to Florida over the vacation period and to drop in on the tournament in Estero. Can anyone recommend a place to stay for a couple of nights, god bars, restarants, in the area?
 
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Did he say something that's incorrect?

Yes.

1. People have NOT been on TIMMAY since Day 1.......just since there had been a noticeable change in the way the team played (undisciplined, same mistakes over and over again, no sense of urgency, lackadaisical, out-of-shape, etc, etc).

2. It is ACCEPTABLE, not "exceptable".........:rolleyes:

On a side note.......defensive hockey is great.........but you can not win consistently scoring 0,1, or even 2 goals per game.......they are SCORING this season.
 
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I'm glad Coach Whitehead doesn't read USCHO message boards. But I'm sure he's aware of the morons who post on here and have posted on here, since the first day he started Coaching at Maine. Their will always be a handfull of fans who won't let Shawn Walsh, RIP. You can't bring Shawn back people, and as I've said before he hand picked Tim Whitehead for a reason. I think he knew things weren't going to turn out well for him, but he wanted the program in good hands if he didn't win his fight with cancer. The last two years haven't been very good and Coach Whitehead has said many times it was not exceptable for this program, so he made the necessary changes to make things better. Recruiting appears to be getting better, the hire of Bob Corkum looks to be a brilliant move, and this team appears to be buying into Coach Whitehead's system of defense first. Defense first will always give you a chance to win even against superior opponents.

There's a big difference in saying someone was handpicked by being first choice and being handpicked by being the only one available.

Where's Grant?
 
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"I'm glad Coach Whitehead doesn't read USCHO message boards."

Guffaw ;)

I'm sure he does. Sometimes you need to hear from others that sitting on 1-0 leads isn't going to win many games. People do learn, fortunately. :)
 
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"I'm glad Coach Whitehead doesn't read USCHO message boards."

Guffaw ;)

I'm sure he does. Sometimes you need to hear from others that sitting on 1-0 leads isn't going to win many games. People do learn, fortunately. :)

I doubt he logs on to USCHO everyday to see what's been said. A secretary elsewhere on campus read stuff and forwarded to Shawn when someone said something he should know about...as I discovered a few times :p

Tim's probably aware of the board's existence, but I really doubt any coach in the country reads this stuff. But I bet some of the players do.
 
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...Just to make it clear...Whitehead was picked after JEFF JACKSON could not take the job because of a Illness in his side of the family.....

Where do you people get your information? Jackson had taken a job that season with the Guelph Storm of the Ontario Hockey League in 2000 and stayed there until the 2002-2003 season.

IF people insist on posting let's check the facts. If you have facts that dispute this feel free to post them. I don't agree with some of the opinions expressed on this board, but I can relate to opinions. However when people insist on posting inaccuracies that's when I think people should be called on the carpet.

You are welcome to return the favor. Jackson's history is detailed on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jackson_(ice_hockey_b._1955) if you want to research it.
 
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Where do you people get your information? Jackson had taken a job that season with the Guelph Storm of the Ontario Hockey League in 2000 and stayed there until the 2002-2003 season.

IF people insist on posting let's check the facts. If you have facts that dispute this feel free to post them. I don't agree with some of the opinions expressed on this board, but I can relate to opinions. However when people insist on posting inaccuracies that's when I think people should be called on the carpet.

You are welcome to return the favor. Jackson's history is detailed on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jackson_(ice_hockey_b._1955) if you want to research it.

Seems like there were A LOT of people in the hospital room with Shawn and TIMMAY too! :rolleyes:
 
Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!

Where do you people get your information? Jackson had taken a job that season with the Guelph Storm of the Ontario Hockey League in 2000 and stayed there until the 2002-2003 season.

IF people insist on posting let's check the facts. If you have facts that dispute this feel free to post them. I don't agree with some of the opinions expressed on this board, but I can relate to opinions. However when people insist on posting inaccuracies that's when I think people should be called on the carpet.

You are welcome to return the favor. Jackson's history is detailed on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jackson_(ice_hockey_b._1955) if you want to research it.

People here will tell you that Shawn thought he'd beat the cancer. Sure, the transplant with his brother failed and doctors told him his days were numbered because the cancer was destroying his body and they couldn't stop it, but Shawn figured he'd be the one to defeat cancer. :rolleyes:

They were, of course, in the hospital room with him too.
 
Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!

People here will tell you that Shawn thought he'd beat the cancer. Sure, the transplant with his brother failed and doctors told him his days were numbered because the cancer was destroying his body and they couldn't stop it, but Shawn figured he'd be the one to defeat cancer. :rolleyes:

They were, of course, in the hospital room with him too.

Classless.......like usual.
 
Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!

Where do you people get your information? Jackson had taken a job that season with the Guelph Storm of the Ontario Hockey League in 2000 and stayed there until the 2002-2003 season.

IF people insist on posting let's check the facts. If you have facts that dispute this feel free to post them. I don't agree with some of the opinions expressed on this board, but I can relate to opinions. However when people insist on posting inaccuracies that's when I think people should be called on the carpet.

You are welcome to return the favor. Jackson's history is detailed on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jackson_(ice_hockey_b._1955) if you want to research it.

Exactly.. The guy who said otherwise just wants to pile on to Whitehead. Shawn wanted no part of letting Cronin get a foot hold on the program and thought Whitehead would be the safe bet. He also thought he could do the job long term, coupled with grant staying around

The last year or so was the first class without Shawns fingerprints on it and it showed. They have righted the ship and will do well going forward. look for maine to be a top 4 HE and top 10 national team soon enough.f
 
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Exactly.. The guy who said otherwise just wants to pile on to Whitehead. Shawn wanted no part of letting Cronin get a foot hold on the program and thought Whitehead would be the safe bet. He also thought he could do the job long term, coupled with grant staying around

Cronin was an assistant with the Islanders and I don't recall a major push to bring him back.
 
Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!

Exactly.. The guy who said otherwise just wants to pile on to Whitehead. Shawn wanted no part of letting Cronin get a foot hold on the program and thought Whitehead would be the safe bet. He also thought he could do the job long term, coupled with grant staying around

The last year or so was the first class without Shawns fingerprints on it and it showed. They have righted the ship and will do well going forward. look for maine to be a top 4 HE and top 10 national team soon enough.f

Shawn died in 2001, yet last year was the first without his recruits????:confused:

Shawn's last recruits (Howard and Moore) signed for the 2002-2003 season......Moore's last season was 2005-2006.....that was 4 SEASONS AGO! :rolleyes:
 
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Shawn died in 2001, yet last year was the first without his recruits????:confused:

Shawn's last recruits (Howard and Moore) signed for the 2002-2003 season......Moore's last season was 2005-2006.....that was 4 SEASONS AGO! :rolleyes:

Little vague on my part. Should have said that recruiting and program went down when Shawn's last group graduated, especially so after Grant stopped pounding the pavement. I am aware of when it all happened, was there the night they had the ceremony for Shawns wife and kids at Alfond. The year they lost in finals...

Cronin was snooping while Walsh was out sick. He would have loved the job, had a great year when Walsh was suspended. Not saying it in a bad way but Whitehead was hand picked pretty much.
 
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Cronin was snooping while Walsh was out sick. He would have loved the job, had a great year when Walsh was suspended. Not saying it in a bad way but Whitehead was hand picked pretty much.

Cronin had a great year at Maine when Shawn was suspended? He won the first season but alienated the fanbase when he griped because people didn't come to Alfond in a blizzard and then was sub-.500 in Hockey East the next year. There weren't a lot of people clamoring for Greg Cronin.
 
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You people are complete wankers who need to get out more. A couple of losing seasons and you're ready to commit suicide over the "collapse" of the program??? LOL...Did I miss the official proclamation from God that Maine hockey ALWAYS has to win? Pathetic. Note to morons: Watching a team start to turn it around after a couple of down years is half the fun in sports. Life will go on--even for people like you who don't have lives... :D


Does your mom know you post on our forum? Seriously....'wankers'??....'note to the morons'....what are you, 12, 13??
 
Re: The Official Maine 2009 season thread:The Revenge of TIMMAY!!!

Only time will tell whether this is a turn around year or not. It's nice to see more then one scoring line which why they are doing so well. Scott Darling is the key I think. If he continues to play well and is consistant, then they have great chance to play a lot of hockey in March!

I'm glad Coach Whitehead doesn't read USCHO message boards. But I'm sure he's aware of the morons who post on here and have posted on here, since the first day he started Coaching at Maine. Their will always be a handfull of fans who won't let Shawn Walsh, RIP. You can't bring Shawn back people, and as I've said before he hand picked Tim Whitehead for a reason. I think he knew things weren't going to turn out well for him, but he wanted the program in good hands if he didn't win his fight with cancer. The last two years haven't been very good and Coach Whitehead has said many times it was not exceptable for this program, so he made the necessary changes to make things better. Recruiting appears to be getting better, the hire of Bob Corkum looks to be a brilliant move, and this team appears to be buying into Coach Whitehead's system of defense first. Defense first will always give you a chance to win even against superior opponents.

So let's look at Coach Whitehead's UMaine Coaching resume. Two National Title appearences, Four Frozen 4 appearences and six trips to the NCAA tournament if my count is correct? Not many Coaches get fired with those kinds acheivements on their resumes. UMaine would be the laughing stock of college hockey if they allowed some crazy bandwagon jumping fans, to dictate how to run their very successful college hockey program. Every great program has down years. Minnesota had a down year last year, BC and BU have had them from time to time, and do see some of the mentally challenged fans from BC or BU, getting Coach York or Coach Parker fired when things don't go well? There is still a lot of season left, but if this team stays healthy and continues to play hard they will have a shot to win Hockey East and return to the NCAA tournament.


I didn't even recognize your handle so I had to take a look at your posting history. Talk about apologist. The majority of times you come on here....you write the same stuff....you start reciting the "4 Frozen Fours in 6 years" catch phrases and ironically only show up (or at least post) when you can actually back up your jargon with a 'what have you done for me lately' example. You show up when Maine finally gets above .500 and received poll votes for the first time in over 2 years; before now you haven't contributed since the day after Maine beat BU in game two of the quarterfinals....and before that you hadn't been active in quite some time.

And to humor the jargon....most of the success on his resume was padded from the beginning years playing with Shawns players....which take us through about '06 as the forum deducted. What has he done since? Oh, we went to St. Louis....and I was there....and I remember saying to people "boy, I hope we can do something great this year to keep the program attractive....because we're going to TANK next year"

And the problem with trying to maintain Maine as a strong program compared to others is that other programs you mentioned sell themselves. Even if they have a down year...GREAT players will still want to play for them next year. Massachusetts and Minnesota are easily the two best hockey beds in the U.S. and the top kids in those states dream of playing for BU, BC and Minnesota. Not only does that give them an upper hand in recruiting, but the guys who show up have a lot of investment in the teams success. Meanwhile....Maine is a weak recruiting base to start with, and the two most elite kids we've produced in the last few years both committed to BC. It's really a slap in the face.

Maine has historically been appealing to players for the following reasons:
--GREAT coaching that helps them grow personally, physically, and mentally
--A shot to win almost every season
--One of the most unique environments/venues a semi-pro caliber player can play in front of.
--Great place for passed over Massachusetts (and other hockey states) kids to compete hard against the coaches who overlooked their ability to be successful at this level and stick it to them!


Once Maine stops winning, or once players lose confidence in the coaching....everything else snowballs fast, and its not an easy recovery compared to the 'program sells itself' schools like BU. Maine stops winning then the fans stop showing up which makes the Alfond's mystique dull; the great canadian players who wanted a shot at success in the NCAA start thinking places like UVM or Lowell look more attractive, and the overlooked dark horse/work horse Massachusetts kids no longer feel like Maine is going to be their best shot at sticking it to the Boston schools.
 
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