The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

[gfmorris]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

The score didn't exactly inspire confidence, but a win is a win. Congrats to Ferris.

We all know that Ferris can score. I call today an off night for everyone not named Mayhew. Motte definitely won that one for them. Hopefully he won't have to do that 2-3 more times.

GFM

 

[aparch]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

I saw there was some more discussion last night on Twitter about continued changes to college hockey. I have a hunch that the rumored swap of WMU and Miami for BSU and MSU are going to be true.

I wonder if the MAC schools would pick up the four western AHA schools (Canisus, Niagara, Mercyhurst, BobbyMo), take FSU with and revive the CCHA.

This would leave the WCHA with just six teams: UAA, UAH, UA_, MTU, NMU, and LSSU.

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

I saw there was some more discussion last night on Twitter about continued changes to college hockey. I have a hunch that the rumored swap of WMU and Miami for BSU and MSU are going to be true.

I wonder if the MAC schools would pick up the four western AHA schools (Canisus, Niagara, Mercyhurst, BobbyMo), take FSU with and revive the CCHA.

This would leave the WCHA with just six teams: UAA, UAH, UA_, MTU, NMU, and LSSU.

So Miami of Ohio and wMichigan would join the "WESTERN" Collegiate Hockey Association in order that they could play more teams from Michigan in the EASTERN time zone? Meanwhile teams from NEW YORK and PENNSYLVANIA are somehow "WESTERN" but might try to revive the defunct "CENTRAL" Collegiate Hockey Association? All this from a guy in the "MIDWEST" some 300 miles EAST of the Mississippi River.

Not that I'd be surprised by any sort of conference re-alignment but there's a boatload of USA Americans that could use a geography lesson.

 

[aparch]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

Not that I'd be surprised by any sort of conference re-alignment but there's a boatload of USA Americans that could use a geography lesson.

You haven't seen the complete madness that has been the collegiate football and basketball conference realignments, have you?

There is an awful lot wrong with the geographic naming of the conferences and their member participants. Let's not forget that Hockey East has one member of their conference which is located closer to Oklahoma City, OK than it is to any of it's conference mates.

 

[stuckinwi]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

So Miami of Ohio and wMichigan would join the "WESTERN" Collegiate Hockey Association in order that they could play more teams from Michigan in the EASTERN time zone? Meanwhile teams from NEW YORK and PENNSYLVANIA are somehow "WESTERN" but might try to revive the defunct "CENTRAL" Collegiate Hockey Association? All this from a guy in the "MIDWEST" some 300 miles EAST of the Mississippi River.

Not that I'd be surprised by any sort of conference re-alignment but there's a boatload of USA Americans that could use a geography lesson.

Isn't Juneau in southeast Alaska? By your logic that's impossible...

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

Isn't Juneau in southeast Alaska? By your logic that's impossible...

Your having difficulty with the qualifier aren't you? See, when the word southeast is followed by the proper noun Alaska then it clearly means the directional qualifier is referring to that region specifically.

If you really think that the colloquial reference "Midwest" is accurate and/or even acceptable 150 years after it was coined then I'm deeply sorrowful about the state of your cognition.

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

You haven't seen the complete madness that has been the collegiate football and basketball conference realignments, have you?

There is an awful lot wrong with the geographic naming of the conferences and their member participants. Let's not forget that Hockey East has one member of their conference which is located closer to Oklahoma City, OK than it is to any of it's conference mates.

There is indeed much wrong.

 

[stuckinwi]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

Your having difficulty with the qualifier aren't you? See, when the word southeast is followed by the proper noun Alaska then it clearly means the directional qualifier is referring to that region specifically.

If you really think that the colloquial reference "Midwest" is accurate and/or even acceptable 150 years after it was coined then I'm deeply sorrowful about the state of your cognition.

"western AHA" is the phrase I'm talking about. Your logic applies exactly how you've explained it...

 

[gfmorris]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

This would leave the WCHA with just six teams: UAA, UAH, UA_, MTU, NMU, and LSSU.

How many of us would survive that? That would probably be a 20-game league schedule, which means that all four Lower 48 schools make two Alaska trips. With that few league games, the Alaska exemption doesn't matter, because there's no way that you're getting nine non-conference series in a world full of 28-game league schedules. If something like that happened, I'd probably go to Shelbie King Hall and tell Bob Altenkirch to drop the program, and I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't be the only one (nor would Bob need me to tell him).

GFM

 

[Critical Thinker]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

I saw there was some more discussion last night on Twitter about continued changes to college hockey. I have a hunch that the rumored swap of WMU and Miami for BSU and MSU are going to be true.

I wonder if the MAC schools would pick up the four western AHA schools (Canisus, Niagara, Mercyhurst, BobbyMo), take FSU with and revive the CCHA.

This would leave the WCHA with just six teams: UAA, UAH, UA_, MTU, NMU, and LSSU.

Other than Robert Morris and maybe Mercyhurst, I don't see the AHA schools leaving an eastern conference. If the MAC schools made our own conference, we would most likely pick up the Michigan GLIAC's. Notre Dame might be enticed to join based on travel as well. So my hypothetical "Midwest" conference would be:

BG
Miami
Western
Ferris
Lake State
Northern
Tech
Notre Dame

?Mercyhurst?
?Robert Morris?
?UAH? (if this conference really were to be created, it would be the closest geographically for them)

I'm not sure what the rest of the WCHA schools would do.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Other than Robert Morris and maybe Mercyhurst, I don't see the AHA schools leaving an eastern conference. If the MAC schools made our own conference, we would most likely pick up the Michigan GLIAC's. Notre Dame might be enticed to join based on travel as well. So my hypothetical "Midwest" conference would be:

BG
Miami
Western
Ferris
Lake State
Northern
Tech
Notre Dame

?Mercyhurst?
?Robert Morris?
?UAH? (if this conference really were to be created, it would be the closest geographically for them)

I'm not sure what the rest of the WCHA schools would do.

Notre Dame is going nowhere.

 

[Critical Thinker]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

Notre Dame is going nowhere.

Well, then it's their loss.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ockey_East_members_beginning_with_2013-14.png

 

[davyd83]

So Miami of Ohio and wMichigan would join the "WESTERN" Collegiate Hockey Association in order that they could play more teams from Michigan in the EASTERN time zone? Meanwhile teams from NEW YORK and PENNSYLVANIA are somehow "WESTERN" but might try to revive the defunct "CENTRAL" Collegiate Hockey Association? All this from a guy in the "MIDWEST" some 300 miles EAST of the Mississippi River.

Not that I'd be surprised by any sort of conference re-alignment but there's a boatload of USA Americans that could use a geography lesson.

Not everyone has your charm and brilliance. Please, where exactly are the delineations between east, central and west? Since there is no Southern Collegiate Hockey Association, where exactly should Alabama-Huntsville play and still be geographically correct? By the way, Mr. geography genius, he's only about 140 miles east of the Mississippi.

 

[blackswampboy]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

Not everyone has your charm and brilliance. Please, where exactly are the delineations between east, central and west? Since there is no Southern Collegiate Hockey Association, where exactly should Alabama-Huntsville play and still be geographically correct?

better not tell him about Case Western Reserve Univ. in Cleveland--his head will explode.

"Western Reserve College was founded in 1826 in Hudson, Ohio, which, at the time, was the region's most populated area and named for the Connecticut Western Reserve, out of which the area arose. In 1882, Western Reserve College moved to Cleveland and changed its name to Western Reserve University."

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

Not everyone has your charm and brilliance. Please, where exactly are the delineations between east, central and west?

In non 19th century terms the usual and most common geographic boundary is the Mississippi River. It is a really big and long river that sorta bisects the United States of America into east and west. Of course, this particular river doesn't do so equitably (in a geographic sense) but it's common use in our parlance vastly outweighs ridiculous notions of places like Michigan somehow being "MidWest". That state I suppose is kinda halfway to the eastern edge of the western half of the continent. Ever heard of St. Louis? It's like 300 miles west of Detroit. It's nickname is ... prepare yourself ... Gateway TO the West. Psst ... it's on the Mississippi River about halfway between Canadia and the Gulf of Mexico.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

I saw there was some more discussion last night on Twitter about continued changes to college hockey. I have a hunch that the rumored swap of WMU and Miami for BSU and MSU are going to be true.

I wonder if the MAC schools would pick up the four western AHA schools (Canisus, Niagara, Mercyhurst, BobbyMo), take FSU with and revive the CCHA.

This would leave the WCHA with just six teams: UAA, UAH, UA_, MTU, NMU, and LSSU.

I tried finding this Twatter discussion and couldn't. Any chance you could link some examples?

Cheer that they'd likely never have to land in Detroit ever again?

Aww, did he touch a nerve, Donald?

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

better not tell him about Case Western Reserve Univ. in Cleveland--his head will explode.

"Western Reserve College was founded in 1826 in Hudson, Ohio, which, at the time, was the region's most populated area and named for the Connecticut Western Reserve, out of which the area arose. In 1882, Western Reserve College moved to Cleveland and changed its name to Western Reserve University."

So in a discussion about the context of regional qualifiers with regard to modernity you bring up something from the early 19th century as some sort of cleverness? Hows that clever-thing working out for you?

 

[blackswampboy]

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So in a discussion about the context of regional qualifiers with regard to modernity you bring up something from the early 19th century as some sort of cleverness? Hows that clever-thing working out for you?

workin' just fine.
love and kisses,
the midwest.

 

[Squarebanks]

I saw there was some more discussion last night on Twitter about continued changes to college hockey. I have a hunch that the rumored swap of WMU and Miami for BSU and MSU are going to be true.

I wonder if the MAC schools would pick up the four western AHA schools (Canisus, Niagara, Mercyhurst, BobbyMo), take FSU with and revive the CCHA.

This would leave the WCHA with just six teams: UAA, UAH, UA_, MTU, NMU, and LSSU.

UAF wouldn't only be in danger of losing hockey in that scenario, there's a decent chance that would cost us our entire athletic program. NCAA minimum number of sports for a varsity program is 10, and we are at 10.

 

[davyd83]

I saw there was some more discussion last night on Twitter about continued changes to college hockey. I have a hunch that the rumored swap of WMU and Miami for BSU and MSU are going to be true.

I wonder if the MAC schools would pick up the four western AHA schools (Canisus, Niagara, Mercyhurst, BobbyMo), take FSU with and revive the CCHA.

This would leave the WCHA with just six teams: UAA, UAH, UA_, MTU, NMU, and LSSU.

I haven't heard any such rumors from any source with inside knowledge. It's not much more than speculation about what might make sense.