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The New WCHA, 2014 Offseason: See-ya, Bruce

Re: The New WCHA, 2014 Offseason: See-ya, Bruce

WCHA got back to my tweet:
There are still some details that are being finalized. But we are very excited about the direction we are going with streaming.
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Which didn't quite answer my question to them of how to purchase a season pass...
 
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aparch said:
WCHA got back to my tweet:

Which didn't quite answer my question to them of how to purchase a season pass...
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You'd think they'd be a little more receptive to a question that involves you purchasing a product they help produce.
 
Re: The New WCHA, 2014 Offseason: See-ya, Bruce

aparch said:
WCHA got back to my tweet:

Which didn't quite answer my question to them of how to purchase a season pass...
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...because they are changing things up and don't know when they'll have those details finalized?
 
Re: The New WCHA, 2014 Offseason: See-ya, Bruce

So before the media polls get out here's my picks. I doubt the media knows any more than the fans do, usually less if you ask me.

10 Huntsville- maybe 4 wins.
9. Bemidji- a really, really hard schedule
8. Lssu- Better team but, well we'll see, tough schedule, especially on the road
7. Alaska- lost a lot. Even if they can replace it, schedule not that favorable
6. UAA- Might be a better team, but everyone in the league is a better team except one or two.Will be real tough at home.
5. BGSU- Lost some good players. Schedule fairly neutral.
4. NMU- real good team, but tougher schedule than some.
3. MTU- typical homer pick
2. Ferris- only because of how easy the schedule is, not because I think they will be good, because I don't. Won't be that tough on the road.
1. Mankato- A lot of talent, schedule not easy though.
 
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manurespreader said:
So before the media polls get out here's my picks. I doubt the media knows any more than the fans do, usually less if you ask me.

10 Huntsville- maybe 4 wins.
9. Bemidji- a really, really hard schedule
8. Lssu- Better team but, well we'll see tough schedule especially on the road
7. Alaska- lost a lot. Even if they can replace it, schedule not that favorable
6. UAA- Might be a better team, but everyone in the league is a better team except one or two.Will be real tough at home.
5. BGSU- Lost some good players. Schedule fairly neutral.
4. NMU- real good team, but tougher schedule than some.
3. MTU- typical homer pick
2. Ferris- only because of how easy the schedule is, not because I think they will be good, because I don't. especially the road.
1. Mankato- A lot of talent, schedule not easy though.
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I like the pre-season predictions, because it means the season's almost here! So here goes nothing
1. Kato - If not, we have no excuses
2. Ferris - Winning begets winning. There's a big talent dropoff from last year, but the seniors know how to win.
3. UAA - I think Thomas has them on the verge of something good.
4. Tech - See the Ferris comments, only just the opposite. There's more talent here than at least a couple of the teams I've picked ahead of them, but if they don't start producing soon, losing close ones is going to become a habit.
5. BGSU - Lost a lot, but still have a lot
6. UAF - Lost a lot, but don't have quite as much.
7. NMU - Manure, I respect your opinions on teams from the UP, and maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't see it.
8. LSSU - New coach, new attitude? Hey, it can't be worse
9. BSU - I wouldn't be stunned to see them in the top 5, but I'll be even less stunned to see them in the bottom 3
10. Huntsville - I'm guessing 6 wins
 
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I'll give it a shot from the banks of the St Mary's...

10 Alabama Huntsville: They'll be improved, but still have a long way to go
9 LSSU: I don't know where Manure sees a better team here. 3 freshmen goalies, lost 2 of top the scorers and only have 2 decent D back
8 Bemidji: Pretty much the same as last year
7 UAF: This is where teams start to get very closely bunched.
6 UAA: Goaltending is a huge question mark
5 Bowling Green: This is a team that could rise as high as 3rd or fall as far as 7th
4 Michigan Tech: Can Phillips seize the #1 goalie job? This is a team that could be much improved, but at worst stay about the same as a year ago
3 NMU: Had six newcomers over 15 points a year ago and a solid freshman goalie who now has a year under his belt
2: Ferris: This is another team that could win it, or could be on the road for round one, but with CJ Motte, they get #2 until someone takes it away
1: Minnesota State: Offense + Defense + Special Teams + Goaltending = Success
 
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davyd83 said:
Just curious, how many members of the media who will vote in the poll do you know? Did you do more or less research on all of the individual team prior to voting?
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I think that a big failing of the media poll last year was that the list of voters wasn't available. I admit that I was playing darts last year, but I sure feel like I have a better handle on the league after a season of seeing the talent.

GFM
 
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gfmorris said:
I think that a big failing of the media poll last year was that the list of voters wasn't available. I admit that I was playing darts last year, but I sure feel like I have a better handle on the league after a season of seeing the talent.

GFM
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I saw this list from last year:

Justin Bradford, ESPN Radio Nashville;
Bruce Cech, KCBF 820/UAF play-by-play;
Dave Danis, Northern Michigan play-by-play;
Erik Drygas, KCBF 820 AM/UAF color analyst;
Casey Ford, ESPN Radio UP;
Shane Frederick, Mankato Free Press;
Kurt Haider, KENI News/KTZN Sports/UAA hockey play-by-play;
Dirk Hembroff, 93.5 FM/MTU play-by-play;
Dominic Hennig, 97.3 FM/FSU Play-by-Play;
Jack Hittinger, Bemidji Pioneer;
Dan Kowalski, 97.3 FM/FSU Color Commentator;
Budd McLaughlin, AL.com hockey writer;
Geof Morris, UAHHockey.com;
Tim O’Donnell, Fairbanks Daily News-Miner;
Rob Roos, Sault Evening News;
Martin Slagter, Big Rapids Pioneer;
Jerry Taylor, ABC10 UP;
Matt Wellens, Marquette Daily Mining Journal;
Kevin Wells, KTUU-Channel 2;
Scott Williams, Lakeland Public Television/KBUN Sportsradio,
Brandon Veale/Michael Bleach, Daily Mining Gazette
Drew Evans, BGSUHockey.com;
Kevin Gordon, Bowling Green Sentinel-Tribune;
Kevin Meyers, Bowling Green Radio Sports Organization;
John Wagner, Toledo Blade;
 
Re: The New WCHA, 2014 Offseason: See-ya, Bruce

Based on my experience, I think manurespreader nailed his assessment of media polls.
 
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Marty Slagter from the Big Rapids paper is gone. I'm guessing Bob Allen replaced him for voting. I'm also guessing Bob Allen has never seen a hockey puck before in his life.



...my hometown is Big Rapids, by the way. :eek: :)
 
Re: The New WCHA, 2014 Offseason: See-ya, Bruce

Kevin Gordon and Matt Wellens no longer work for those employers either.
 
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manurespreader said:
So before the media polls get out here's my picks. I doubt the media knows any more than the fans do, usually less if you ask me.
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Amen to that.

There are dozens of posters on this board that have forgotten more than Barry Melrose has ever known about college hockey.

He is, in a word, blithering.
 
Re: The New WCHA, 2014 Offseason: See-ya, Bruce

manurespreader said:
So before the media polls get out here's my picks. I doubt the media knows any more than the fans do, usually less if you ask me.

10 Huntsville- maybe 4 wins.
9. Bemidji- a really, really hard schedule
8. Lssu- Better team but, well we'll see, tough schedule, especially on the road
7. Alaska- lost a lot. Even if they can replace it, schedule not that favorable
6. UAA- Might be a better team, but everyone in the league is a better team except one or two.Will be real tough at home.
5. BGSU- Lost some good players. Schedule fairly neutral.
4. NMU- real good team, but tougher schedule than some.
3. MTU- typical homer pick
2. Ferris- only because of how easy the schedule is, not because I think they will be good, because I don't. Won't be that tough on the road.
1. Mankato- A lot of talent, schedule not easy though.
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If the media knows so little, how did they do so well in last year's preseason poll? Five teams landed in the exact spot predicted. Three more missed their predicted spot by a single point in the final standings. LSSU was chosen 7th and finished tied for 8th, missing the playoff by a tiebreaker. Considering it was the first year for the new league and five teams finished within 3 pts of one another (7 teams within 6 points), I'd say those who voted in the poll did a remarkable job. They even fared better than the coaches, who hit on two spots in the final standings.
 
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Well with all due respect mr davy, and to answer your question directly which most media types would never do.

You're right I don't know a single member of the media. Unless you count geoff here and he doesn't like me, as I say bad things about alabama.( which they deserve for sure) so no, not a one, but I do research,and I read everything I can about the teams before I guess. Just like you, though yes I do have a job, and I do go to it unlike media guys who get paid to go to sports events, and wake up at noon.

But before you defend the media, this is the same group of guys who voted yale number 1 or 2 last year well into the season, before they had played a single game; and when they were under five hundred 3 weeks later, still voted them number 1 or 2.

Then there was the east coast team that lost both games of a series to a western team but was voted much higher in the polls for weeks afterward, with a worse overall record. Or how about John Bucigross, or the guys at some of the eastern papers. It's really a disservice what they say out loud.I read their columns and just laugh. It's like, what planet are these guys living on.
So yeah, I liked Matt Wellens last year, but he's gone now and apparently we don't have a replacement for him. And I do think our media guys aren't too bad, but overall, I don't think much of the media and there are a lot of fans who can do as well.
 
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Well said. The hockey media has always baffled me when it comes to the polls.
 
manurespreader said:
Well with all due respect mr davy, and to answer your question directly which most media types would never do.

You're right I don't know a single member of the media. Unless you count geoff here and he doesn't like me, as I say bad things about alabama.( which they deserve for sure) so no, not a one, but I do research,and I read everything I can about the teams before I guess. Just like you, though yes I do have a job, and I do go to it unlike media guys who get paid to go to sports events, and wake up at noon.

But before you defend the media, this is the same group of guys who voted yale number 1 or 2 last year well into the season, before they had played a single game; and when they were under five hundred 3 weeks later, still voted them number 1 or 2.

Then there was the east coast team that lost both games of a series to a western team but was voted much higher in the polls for weeks afterward, with a worse overall record. Or how about John Bucigross, or the guys at some of the eastern papers. It's really a disservice what they say out loud.I read their columns and just laugh. It's like, what planet are these guys living on.
So yeah, I liked Matt Wellens last year, but he's gone now and apparently we don't have a replacement for him. And I do think our media guys aren't too bad, but overall, I don't think much of the media and there are a lot of fans who can do as well.
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So you don't know any members of the media, yet you know they sleep until noon?
 
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