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The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

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I'm excited about Grand Rapids being the location. Van Andel is a great facility, and I enjoy making the trip over for Griffins games when they host the Chicago Wolves. It's easily accessible for BGSU, FSU, LSSU, and even NMU.

I second that...for obvious reasons.
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

Bruce McLeod spent a few moments on air tonight during the NMU vs Michigan series. Said that they were excited to maintain their partnership for the Championship in St. Paul for every other year, but it was too early yet to announce where the other Championship location will be. Said it would be beneficial to NMU fans (Milwaukee? Duluth? Grand Rapids?)

Sounded really excited about the prospects for the league, and said that so far it was solid footing.
- Of note, he was unprompted to mention financials, it seemed like it sorta slipped out that the New WCHA was financially stable.

One thing that did frustrate me is that he will keep the league headquarters "In Denver for as long as I'm at the helm, after that, all bets are off." Would have liked to be located closer to the teams, not a phone call and flight away from everything.

Anything about our bid?

GFM <-- UAH-focused for sure.
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

As far as I can remember I think it was mentioned that they were impressed with their visit down there. I am sure you are aware of that.
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

Anything about our bid?

GFM <-- UAH-focused for sure.
Not during the NMU broadcast, though as you see below there was a brief mention on the LSSU broadcast.

The only teams discussed were the "Iron Range" teams. How the rivalry between Tech/Northern/Lake State will be fun, Bemidji will be a nice addition, Minnesota State was performing well.
 
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Latest rumors are pointing UAH toward the AHA. Seems there has been discussion "by up to four teams" wanting to be added to AHA. A few AHA fans are trying to figure out who else could be involved, and BGSU's name keeps popping up.
 
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Latest rumors are pointing UAH toward the AHA. Seems there has been discussion "by up to four teams" wanting to be added to AHA. A few AHA fans are trying to figure out who else could be involved, and BGSU's name keeps popping up.

I have no idea what rumors are even close to true, but it would be ironic that the nWCHA wants BGSU for their big D-I school status and other rumors have them wanting to go to AH and lose 1/3 of their scholarships. BGSU is an odd duck for nWCHA geography, but of all the nWCHA programs they make the least sense to go to AH from a $$$$ stand point in my opinion.

Ryan J
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

Combine geography and competitiveness though, and it might make sense for Bowling Green, at least for now. Several good years and some AHA autobids, and they might sniff a move to the NCHC just based on their size and bus proximity to Western and Miami.
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

Head on over to the Beaver Radio Network and catch this week's Sports in the Round (11/7/12). BSU AD Rick Goeb was a guest and there was discussion on the new WCHA, Atlantic Hockey, Bowling Green and UAH.

http://beaverradionetwork.com/wp/?page_id=873

Care to post a synopsis? You can't fast forward from what I can tell... and to be honest I don't care too much about BSU sports in general :)
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

OK, I don't see anything that I can listen to on that link, what one do I need to click on?
 
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Care to post a synopsis? You can't fast forward from what I can tell... and to be honest I don't care too much about BSU sports in general :)

Boy, I wish I would have taken notes. But anyway, here is what I remember (I think)......

Dr. Goeb talked a little bit about the UAH site visit and just that it was a site visit, not a yes or no visit. He then had conversations with the conference ADs and they in turn talk to the Presidents, who will have a meeting, I believe in January, to decide whether or not to allow UAH to make an official bid, along with other league business.

The WCHA schools will meet in Bemidji next June to put the final touches on the league for the 2013-14 season.

AHA's desire to get to 16 teams was discussed, although Dr. Goeb stayed out of that. Bowling Green and UAH were discussed in that segment. Nothing real concrete, but did give a little more credence to what has been posted around here about Bowling Green, although not certain if that is where Bowling Green is looking.
 
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Care to post a synopsis? You can't fast forward from what I can tell... and to be honest I don't care too much about BSU sports in general :)

The overall hockey shakeup and nWCHA is discussed around minute 41. The visit to UAH comes up specifically at 50 minutes into the program. You can select the 7 Nov Sports in the Round program, do a right click and save the mp3 off if you don't want to listen to 40 minutes of Bemidji sports. Then use your favorite audio program to advance straight to the discussion.
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

Thanks, Millsy. I wish BRN would use better condensers.

GFM
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

Posted this over in the UAH thread. It is in response to UAH getting into the WCHA and then having two five team divisions. Do you set the division up based on geography or rivalries?

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I love the two, five team divisions set up.

-Play everyone in your division four times for 16 games.
-Play everyone in the other division twice for 10 games.
-One Alaska school in each division for 2 extra games, which leaves room for 10 nonconference games, 12 if you happen to have to go to both Alaska schools in one year.

Divisions? Hmmm.... I would think Tech, Northern and Lake State would want to be in the same divisions. BSU has a history with Mankato and UAH. I don't know enough about the histories of Ferris, Bowling Green, Anchorage and Fairbanks to make a good decision. Bowling Green with UAH for "proximity" which would put Ferris with the UP schools? Do any of the teams have a "rivalry" with either of the Alaska schools that would make division placement interesting?
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Would the divisions be used for playoffs? As in uaa vs uaf in first round, then 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 in each division (ignoring where Alaska schools fall in standings)?
 
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I think a ten team/ two division nWCHA would be a east/west division setup with the two Alaska schools in different divisions.
Probably makes the most sense, but I was trying to set things up from a rivalry standpoint, maybe a little more interesting. Granted, the two Alaska schools would only have the two games against each other per year with them being in different divisions, but they could use two non-conference games.....

But I am not the one that gets to make the decisions.
So options,
Option 1
East: BGSU, UAH, FSU, LSSU, UAF
West: NMU, MTU, BSU, MSUM, UAA
Option 2
A: MTU, NMU, LSSU, FSU, UAA
B: MSUM, BSU, BGSU, UAH, UAF
Option 3
No divisions, designated rival plus 4 vs 4 teams, 2 @ 2 teams, 2 vs 2 teams (old WCHA 28 gm schedule).
Option 4
No divisions, designated rival, plus 4 vs 2 teams, 2 @ 3 teams, 2 vs 3 teams (24 gm schedule)
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

If you want five-team groupings I would recommend the following:

Group A - MTU, NMU, LSSU, UAH +1 AK
Group B - BSU, MSU, FSU, BGSU + 1 AK
I've grouped this based on trying to make travel a bit more "fair".

--or--
Group A - MTU, NMU, BSU, MSU, UAA
Group B - LSSU, FSU, BGSU, UAF, UAH
I've grouped these as oWCHA vs CCHA, but if you were going to do this why merge the two leagues?

I'm really not in favor of divisions in a 10 team league. That isn't really large enough for a hard scheduling split. I would prefer to just get a mix of playing a different set of teams four times each season. I'm sure from a money stand point, nearly all the teams are going to want to avoid going TO UAA and UAF in the same season unless they can do it like Tech and play both teams in a 8-9 day period.

Ryan J
 
Re: The New WCHA 2, The Electric Boogaloo (2013-14)

If you want five-team groupings I would recommend the following:

Group A - MTU, NMU, LSSU, UAH +1 AK
Group B - BSU, MSU, FSU, BGSU + 1 AK
I've grouped this based on trying to make travel a bit more "fair".

--or--
Group A - MTU, NMU, BSU, MSU, UAA
Group B - LSSU, FSU, BGSU, UAF, UAH
I've grouped these as oWCHA vs CCHA, but if you were going to do this why merge the two leagues?

I'm really not in favor of divisions in a 10 team league. That isn't really large enough for a hard scheduling split. I would prefer to just get a mix of playing a different set of teams four times each season. I'm sure from a money stand point, nearly all the teams are going to want to avoid going TO UAA and UAF in the same season unless they can do it like Tech and play both teams in a 8-9 day period.

Ryan J
If the league stays at 9 teams, each school will make 2 Alaska trips 6 of 8 seasons. There is no logistical way for more than one or two teams to go to Alaska and play both. You'd have to coordinate them with school breaks and the Alaska schools like to use some of their time to come down for back to back weeks. To suggest a Saturday/Sunday-Thursday/Friday scheduling would cost the host teams a lot of revenue. You don't want to replace a Friday gate with Sunday, nor do you want to replace a Saturday gate with Thursday night on the other end. This is something that will likely happen only once, maybe twice per season.
 
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