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The National >>>>> B1G

Re: The National >>>>> B1G

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Yikes. Pretty dominant.

That being said, the B1G did get more teams in the NCAA Tournament (4-3) and Frozen Four (3-1) and had a pretty good run in the NCAA Tournament, going a collective 7-4. However, the NCHC went 5-2...including going 3-1 against the B1G, and claimed the national title.

Decent arguments could be made both ways as for who was "better" this season, but I think the two conferences are pretty close to each other in terms of strength. Given that, the B1G certainly closed the gap that had existed the past 2-3 seasons, and the "West" definitely has the edge in hockey at the moment. Now we just have to wait until next season to see where it goes. :)
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Very fair assessment Fighting Sioux 23. But how fun is being reasonable and fair and honest??? lol
 
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willythekid said:
Ten years ago the NCHC and the big10 didn't exist in college hockey... Who knows about next year... A smart betting man would put money on the NCHC being the better of the two conferences. Again.
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lol, why would that be? You all underestimated the B1G. I'd say you shouldn't do it from here on out.
 
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FredsDeadFriend said:
lol, why would that be? You all underestimated the B1G. I'd say you shouldn't do it from here on out.
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Why would that be? Probably because of the past history of the NCHC's dominance over big10 schools in hockey since realignment. As far as underestimating the big10, talk is big... The whole college hockey world has heard for years that the big10 will dominate hockey. Maybe it's time for you to lower your expectations a bit.
 
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I tweeted this yesterday. For understanding:

TOTAL NCAA TEAMS: 80 (16 x 5 years)
TOTAL FROZEN FOUR: 20 (4 x 5 years)
CHAMPS: 5

Parens show number of teams.

In its five years, the NCHC has had 25 percent of NCAA tourney teams (20), 40 percent of Frozen Four teams (8), and 60 percent of national champions (3).

Other conferences:
AHC - 6.25 percent NCAA teams (5), no Frozen Fours
B1G: 13.75 percent NCAA teams (11), 20 percent Frozen Fours (4), no titles
ECAC: 18.75 percent NCAA teams (15), 15 percent Frozen Fours (3), 20 percent titles (1)
Hockey East: 26.25 percent NCAA teams (21), 25 percent Frozen Fours (5), 20 percent titles (1)
WCHA: 10 percent NCAA teams (8), no Frozen Fours
 
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Frankly, I still think that anything after percent NCAA teams is almost irrelevant. Everything is a coin flip as we've seen in recent years and was confirmed in the ESPN broadcast. The 1 v 4 matchup is barely an edge for the 1 seed anymore.

It's really hard to draw conclusions beyond that. Maybe use the KRACH after the post-season is completed. I have no idea.
 
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WCHA: 37 titles and counting... everyone else is a distant second.
(Sorry quitters, but previously earned credits do not transfer with you to your new conferences...
Just be glad the NCAA didn't make your team sit out a year before playing in your new conference.)

Ryan
 
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JohnsonsJerseys said:
Sorry quitters, but previously earned credits do not transfer with you to your new conferences...
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But for the schools the "previously earned credits" stay with them as they move to another conference, i.e. Michigan should not "lose" the titles they won when they were in the WCHA and then the CCHA. Likewise, should the ECAC get credit for the titles that BC and BU won prior to 1984, or do they go to Hockey East, or do they just vanish?

Bottom line: Using NCAA Championships as a way to determine conference strength doesn't make much sense - too many moving parts over the years.
 
Re: The National >>>>> B1G

JohnsonsJerseys said:
WCHA: 37 titles and counting... everyone else is a distant second.
(Sorry quitters, but previously earned credits do not transfer with you to your new conferences...
Just be glad the NCAA didn't make your team sit out a year before playing in your new conference.)

Ryan
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I agree. UND is a 8 time champion,but the NCHC only has 3 championships. The NCHC had 6 teams that played together the year prior.
 
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D2D said:
But for the schools the "previously earned credits" stay with them as they move to another conference, i.e. Michigan should not "lose" the titles they won when they were in the WCHA and then the CCHA. Likewise, should the ECAC get credit for the titles that BC and BU won prior to 1984, or do they go to Hockey East, or do they just vanish?

Bottom line: Using NCAA Championships as a way to determine conference strength doesn't make much sense - too many moving parts over the years.
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Using previously earned credits is fine... everyone has an opinion. These big vs NCHC threads are just a fun way to pass time and maybe rile up a few blow-hards. BTW, anybody checked on SpeedKills lately? It does bring up an interesting topic though... comparing the big to the NCHC can be done since they both formed at the same time and were brand new conferences...
 
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