"The Lake Show" - LSSU Laker Hockey

[DopeyBaker]

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Predictions/Analysis of this weekend:

Predictions, Irish 5-2 game one and 4-2 game two.

You hit the nail on the head with your predictions. How about predicting wins next weekend?

 

[Boot_Jim_Roque]

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Yes, I would say the final result last night was due to still too many defensive mistakes plus not taking advantage of their PP opportunities. They did get one PP goal right after a 5 on 3 ended but needed to get one or two more.

Wrong again you are. The Lakers lost last night and tonight because Notre Dame has a superior coach and superior players. The same can be said for almost every team in the CCHA.

 

[Bill]

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Regardless of the Notre Dame talent level, if the Lakers made fewer defensive mistakes and were able to get one or two more PP goals last night, they could have won the game.

 

[Boot_Jim_Roque]

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Regardless of the Notre Dame talent level, if the Lakers made fewer defensive mistakes and were able to get one or two more PP goals last night, they could have won the game.

You are one of the biggest, no THE biggest apologist for Jimbo and his Gong Show. Seeing that you seem to be privy to knowledge that most fans aren't, in regards to recruiting, I'm assuming you must be related to someone in the Gong Show. Is this the reason you have so vehemently defended this administration over the years? Well hopefully soon the apologists voices will fall on deaf ears up at the university and the Lakers will be given a much needed overhaul behind the bench.

 

[sm2pk]

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Regardless of the Notre Dame talent level, if the Lakers made fewer defensive mistakes and were able to get one or two more PP goals last night, they could have won the game.

If the Lakers had held ND to no goals they would have won as well. There never seems to be much of an improvement in the players from year to year. Cassiani had 11 goals his first year and than dropped to 5 his second and so far this year he is just a skater and not much more and that is true with so many on this team. Not only do they not improve each season but seem to do less each year. They work so hard in just trying to get the puck out of their end that they wear you out wondering if they are going to beable to get that accomplished before the opponent grabs a turn over and scores. Frank Anzalone took over a division 3 team and his teams worked harder for 60 minutes a game than teams have under Roque. Anzalone may not have won but they worked from start to finished and they played full 60 minutes night in and night out. Going back to last season,the Lakers are something like 3-16-1 now and they don't look any better this year or stronger than they have since Roque took over. The last team to make it to the Joe was a team started by Anzalone. You figure that out.

 

[Bill]

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You are one of the biggest, no THE biggest apologist for Jimbo and his Gong Show. Seeing that you seem to be privy to knowledge that most fans aren't, in regards to recruiting, I'm assuming you must be related to someone in the Gong Show. Is this the reason you have so vehemently defended this administration over the years? Well hopefully soon the apologists voices will fall on deaf ears up at the university and the Lakers will be given a much needed overhaul behind the bench.

Actually I don't even know Jim Roque and I have no family in the Soo. What seems to upset you is that most of the Laker fans that post on this thread aren't constantly calling Jim names and demanding his immediate firing. In your case, that seems to be almost all you have to say. If you don't like the fact that most of us also want to discuss things other than whether Jim Roque should be fired, there's nothing preventing you from dropping off this thread. As far as his job security goes, any college coach realizes that too many losing seasons are going to put his job in jeopardy. And as far as recruiting insights go, I haven't posted any info on this thread that wasn't already available from some Junior A hockey league/team website or another college hockey blog (such as Chris Heisenberg's). I plead guilty to regularly spending time looking at several such websites. The recruiting information is out there if you take the time to look for it.

 

[Truth Serum]

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No need for concern with CCHA games at Miami, Michigan and home against Northern and Ferris coming up before Thanksgiving. I am sure they will improve on that 3-16-1 record over the last 20 games played.

With expected solid from their senior goaltender, a defense that does not let anyone score many goals let alone give them a chance too, an offensive that has speed and creativity and snipers, and the players ready to play every night and prepared like no other group in the league I expect greatness and lots of W's.

If you look at the Michigan Tech game and take out the first period they were in that game. They were tied with Notre Dame on Thursday and Friday. Granted Friday was 0-0 but they were still tied. The turnaround begins Friday against Colgate!

 

[Boot_Jim_Roque]

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Actually I don't even know Jim Roque and I have no family in the Soo. What seems to upset you is that most of the Laker fans that post on this thread aren't constantly calling Jim names and demanding his immediate firing. In your case, that seems to be almost all you have to say.

I can and most certainly will talk about something else. How about recruiting players that don't know how to skate and then keeping them around for 4 years (Hobbins) OR having players on the team that couldn't play D3 (Cooper) OR having players that seem to get worse rather than better OR having your players run out of gas/motivation/enthusiasm almost every 3rd period. Need I go on? Things might be splendid down in the Laker hotbed of Battle Creek but they are far from rosy here in the Soo.

 

[FRICKER]

"The Lake Show" - LSSU Laker Hockey

Boot_Jim_Roque: Have you taken into consideration the recruiting advantage ND has over the Lakers because of the school's location & reputation? It's a tap-in versus a long putt! It seems that every other post is to Fire Roque or Fire Borek, or fire coach-de-jour unless his name is Jeff Jackson. IMO, the recruiting assistant or assistants are just as important to the formula for sucess as the head coach. The assistants intice a recruit to visit the Soo and "tee up" the player for the head coach to close the deal.
When the Lakers had Ron Rolston & Jim Roque beating the bushes, and then Borek recruiting, they had the best of the best. You may not have liked Scott Borek as a head coach, but he was a recruing "Pied Piper" !!! Did you ever reflect that potential recruits might read this blog and be negatively influenced by all the negativity???

 

[Boot_Jim_Roque]

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Boot_Jim_Roque: Have you taken into consideration the recruiting advantage ND has over the Lakers because of the school's location & reputation? It's a tap-in versus a long putt! It seems that every other post is to Fire Roque or Fire Borek, or fire coach-de-jour unless his name is Jeff Jackson. IMO, the recruiting assistant or assistants are just as important to the formula for sucess as the head coach. The assistants intice a recruit to visit the Soo and "tee up" the player for the head coach to close the deal.
When the Lakers had Ron Rolston & Jim Roque beating the bushes, and then Borek recruiting, they had the best of the best. You may not have liked Scott Borek as a head coach, but he was a recruing "Pied Piper" !!! Did you ever reflect that potential recruits might read this blog and be negatively influenced by all the negativity???

I would also like to see Roque's assistants, aka The Gong Show, given the boot. And any recruit that was negatively influenced by an open internet thread is a complete moron and would be much better served by attending U of M. Thank you.

 

[sm2pk]

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The best teams Roque has had so far are the first two years he coached and the players on those teams had either played one, two,or 3 years under Anzalone. The last time this Laker team went to the Joe was with a team that played under Anzalone. If Fairbanks Alaska can recruit players to go play in a place so isolated from the world that you may as well be standing on the moon,you would think a nice decent town like the Soo could draw players wanting a good education from a decent university plus a chance to play in a top notch league with top notch teams that get NHL recruiters to come watch the games.

Bill Crawford always seems to make the remark during games how the other teams are just so much stronger than the Laker players and you have to ask why. Go to Sears,buy some weights and build. There was a time in my life I was as strong as hell and that was just from working out in a gym. The mystery remains the same. Is it just a lack of talent on the players side,or is it a lack of coaching from the coaches and that is the real problem. Talent or coaching and we have no idea which it is.

 

[sm2pk]

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What does everyone see that has them thinking we need either a coaching change or a better recruiting system. Do you think the team has just way too many second and third tier players or a coaching staff that has talented players but not good at playing that talent ?

 

[Truth Squad]

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The best teams Roque has had so far are the first two years he coached and the players on those teams had either played one, two,or 3 years under Anzalone. The last time this Laker team went to the Joe was with a team that played under Anzalone.

Very well put!

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA

 

[PerkyforPrez]

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What does everyone see that has them thinking we need either a coaching change or a better recruiting system. Do you think the team has just way too many second and third tier players or a coaching staff that has talented players but not good at playing that talent ?

I think it's time for a change and the main reason is the team does not look like they are properly prepared to play the game. Roque got rid of Joe Shawhan because he was not his choice he says. Not so in the eyes of many Laker fans in the Soo area, he was threatened from him because he was a better coach and motivator. Get rid of all of them and fill all three positions from outside.
If they don't change their ways i can see the end of Laker hockey in less then 15 years and the names Roque and Dunbar would be taboo in a once proud Hockey town.

Bill is a quality poster and a real good man but the last time i checked he was not the one to do the firing or hiring let alone the recruiting. If you want to make a difference you and all your friends call or email the AD and President, give them the your names they can't take it serious if it's anonymous.

 

[Boot_Jim_Roque]

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What does everyone see that has them thinking we need either a coaching change or a better recruiting system. Do you think the team has just way too many second and third tier players or a coaching staff that has talented players but not good at playing that talent ?

Well one thing for sure the Lakers won't be getting very many wins with Larry, Moe and Curly behind the bench. That's the first thing that needs to change. The players have a reasonable amount of talent and with a competent coaching staff should be mid-pack. If the administration ever decides to make a change I would like to see more players come out of the #1 developmental league in the United States, the USHL. A league the Lakers Canadian coach has for the most part ignored. Oh well maybe he can find some more gems for the program in Saskatchewan lol.

 

[sm2pk]

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Roque is now into 4 years of his own teams and they can't get out of the bottom of the league or win any play-off games. As the saying goes, " you can't fire the whole team " and so maybe it is time for a change at the top. I wondered why he picked the 2 assistants he has. I am sure they are great guys but for some reason,just didn't seem like the right choice with so many other persons to pick from . I also agree the team just is up and down so much like a rollercoaster you wonder why some nights they are operating as a team and other nights confusion seems to dictate the play.

 

[Bill]

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I wondered why he picked the 2 assistants he has. I am sure they are great guys but for some reason,just didn't seem like the right choice with so many other persons to pick from .

I believe it was Anzalone who brought in Tim Christian as an assistant coach, and Roque kept Tim on staff when he too over from Frank. Tim played for Frank at Roanoke in the ECHL. Rich Metro was hired by Roque to replace Joe Shawhan, which are tough shoes to fill especially in the eyes of fans in the Soo area and considering the rift between Jim and Joe. Given that he's only been an assistant coach with the Lakers for two years, I think it may be too early to judge Rich.

 

[Boot_Jim_Roque]

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I believe it was Anzalone who brought in Tim Christian as an assistant coach, and Roque kept Tim on staff when he too over from Frank. Tim played for Frank at Roanoke in the ECHL. Rich Metro was hired by Roque to replace Joe Shawhan, which are tough shoes to fill especially in the eyes of fans in the Soo area and considering the rift between Jim and Joe. Given that he's only been an assistant coach with the Lakers for two years, I think it may be too early to judge Rich.

Again you are making excuses for the Gong Show that Roque has as his assistants. Let's see Anzalone hired horrible coach Christain so that's not Roques fault (even though at any time he could have dismissed him) and horrible coach Metro needs more time. So by your bizarre reasoning I think Roque should be kept around for another 5 years to give Metro a chance. Simply brilliant.

 

[AnchorsAway]

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You are one of the biggest, no THE biggest apologist for Jimbo and his Gong Show. Seeing that you seem to be privy to knowledge that most fans aren't, in regards to recruiting, I'm assuming you must be related to someone in the Gong Show. Is this the reason you have so vehemently defended this administration over the years? Well hopefully soon the apologists voices will fall on deaf ears up at the university and the Lakers will be given a much needed overhaul behind the bench.

Bill is one of the many knowledgable regulars on this thread, attacking the credibility of any of the "regulars" isn't going to conivnce anyone that you're right about what your saying, you're only making yourself look silly. I can guarantee that all of the Laker fans that participate on this thread would prefer to see the Laker program be more successful than it has been recently and a complaint here or a "venting" post there is to be expected after a bad series or stretch of play for the Lakers...but to just consistently say the same thing over and over and over is so pointless, do I think Roque is the right guy for the job? Probably not but the bottom line here is that neither I or anyone else on this thread have the power to make that change so why not just talk about the season and Laker team at hand instead of writing how much of a moron you think Roque is 10 times a week?

 

[irishfan85]

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As someone who remembers as one of his early memories of college hockey watching Lake State dismantle BU in the 94 title game, what is the consensus for why LSSU has fallen into such despair? It's too bad MTU and LSSU can't reclaim past glory as it is fun to see the small schools do well. That is one of the great things about college hockey. I mean what would happen if MTU, LSSU, NMU, UMD, Merrimack, Clarkson, St. Lawrence, etc played Notre Dame in college football or Michigan State in college hoops, but in hockey, they all have a shot and some of these small schools would be favorites against the big boys.