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The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Part Deux: Electric Boogaloo
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Also Texas already filed suit against the exec order to provide care for women whose life is in danger.
they will not attempt to save the life of the mother
they will not attempt to save the life of the mother
ScoobyDoo
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Yeah, I kind of wish I was delusional or on drugs or just completely fucking stupid and ignorant. Cause, as they say, ignorance is bliss and I could use some bliss.
Is this the one where Biden’s administration basically reminded everyone that in order to continue receiving federal funding to their hospitals, the hospital must provide stabilizing, potentially life-saving care to any patient who is on or near the premises? Or, find a hospital that is equipped to do so, and provide transportation? And then Texas is saying fuck you, states’ rights?
Deutsche Gopher Fan
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As hector salamanca would say, ding ding ding
Alright, I thought so. I posted “Bye EMTALA” a handful of weeks back when Texas first filed the suit. A decades-old, bipartisan omnibus bill passed by Congress, and signed by a Republican President, could easily be thrown out by this Supreme Court.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Actually, that's a no.
Even if this is allowed to stand (and it won't be), the idea that Texas and others won't make the performing provider's life and the patient's life a living hell afterwards is extraordinarily naive.
Texas hospitals are waiting until ectopic patients become septic in order to comply with these very narrow exemptions. Even if the patient recovers (which is no guarantee), what will this do to the rest of her life? What will this do to her future ability to have children?
Anyone who points to these exemptions and says "yeah but it's ok" is being obtuse in the extreme.
Texas hospitals are waiting until ectopic patients become septic in order to comply with these very narrow exemptions. Even if the patient recovers (which is no guarantee), what will this do to the rest of her life? What will this do to her future ability to have children?
Anyone who points to these exemptions and says "yeah but it's ok" is being obtuse in the extreme.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
Well played.
Deutsche Gopher Fan
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I giggled
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
This.
We have entered the world where the bullies and the fascists have coercive power and OF COURSE they will use it to belittle, badger, and brutalize the rest of us. That's what they do, it's who they are. The Right is a mental disorder born of the inability to adjust to post-animal civilization, and these creeps will harass and harm innocent people until we remove them from power, permanently.
These are the "hate-pinched faces of mean, bitter church-going women." They are the failures who will punish everyone around them to escape responsibility until we neutralize them as a political influence.
This.
”Of COURSE, you may perform an abortion to save a woman’s life! Just come down to the courthouse on the third Thursday of a month that includes a blue moon between 1 and 1:07 pm to fill out the 50-page form in triplicate to document your status as a practicing medical professional and to document your personal assets in the event that any private citizen decides to sue you. You’ll find the forms in the basement (without stairs) behind the door marked ‘Beware of the Leopard.’ We’ll then put your forms in front of a judge, nominated by a pro-life governor and approved by the blood-red legislature, who will decide whether your career is over.
But please, save that woman’s life - it’s totally legal!
Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do you?”
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Texas Title 2, Subtitle H, Chapter 170, Sec. 170.002.(b).(2) -- "the abortion is necessary to prevent the death or a substantial risk of serious impairment to the physical or mental health of the woman;"
If the doctor chooses to not save the mother, it's Greg Abbott's fault? Dan Patrick's? Ken Paxson? I'd have thought it'd be malpractice by the doctor because Texas law makes that very exception.
French Rage
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And do they define "substantial" anywhere? (No, they do not.) You are forcing physicians to wait to get as close as they can to the point of no return before they are allowed to do what they would normally have felt was medically necessary much earlier in the process. And if they choose to jump the gun, for lack of a better term, the penalty isn't a writeup or a slap on the wrist, but very significant criminal or financial consequences, all based on the eventual subjective review of a number of persons outside of the actual decision making process. It is purposefully meant to have a chilling effect while pretending it does not have a chilling effect.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
No where in Texas law defines "substantial". That'd be surprising. Don't they use Black's or some other standard law dictionary?
French Rage
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And that gives exact medical terminology?
Sounds like that particular doctor would have been baited into saving that woman’s life, knowing s/he would get sued for performing such an act, what with this Supreme Court and all.
These laws are written purposefully vague with the goal of discouraging the treatment. Hospital compliance officers are always extremely defensive and MDs tend to value their licensure. So if Texas (or any other christofascist state with a cute carveout) says "oh surrrrre you can do that"... the message is sent.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Doctors could end this in a second by simply ignoring it as a group. You really going to imprison every doctor in a slave state? Yeah, I don't think so.
The morons have forgotten something: they're morons. We do everything of consequence. If conservatives (the few of them who have jobs) strike, we ship in Mexicans who can do their jobs more adroitly and more cheaply. If liberals strike, their world ends. No more welfare checky. No more dick pills.
The morons have forgotten something: they're morons. We do everything of consequence. If conservatives (the few of them who have jobs) strike, we ship in Mexicans who can do their jobs more adroitly and more cheaply. If liberals strike, their world ends. No more welfare checky. No more dick pills.
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