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The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

MarkEagleUSA said:
You could say we had the suck last season...
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16-8-4 isn't so terrible. There must have been dozens of teams with worse records. I haven't reviewed the methodology here in a while - I'm genuinely curious how this could be considered the 2nd worst performance in the entire NCAA.
 
Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

LynahFan said:
16-8-4 isn't so terrible. There must have been dozens of teams with worse records. I haven't reviewed the methodology here in a while - I'm genuinely curious how this could be considered the 2nd worst performance in the entire NCAA.
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Just the second worst point change from last season...not necessarily the second worst performance in the country. It's also possible that I mis-entered the data in a previous season that was not caught until this season (or, that I mis-entered the data this season, which will be caught next season). I really prefer the longer trends (5-year, and next year I will be able to start doing a 10-year trend) to show how a program ranks over a period of time...but I include the one-year change for people who like to see the more immediate impacts of a season.

Also, teams that have more points are more susceptible to larger negative seasons. For example, if both Denver and Arizona State went 0-36, DU would lose a lot more points than the Sun Devils.
 
Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

And rounding out the middle-third, #25-21:

#25 - Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Points: 62.6519
Conference: Big Ten
2017-2018 Record: 28-10-2 Overall; 17-6-1 Conference (1st)
2017-2018 Results: Big Ten Regular Season Champion; Big Ten Tournament Champions; NCAA National Runner-up
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 16.9766 Points (Rank: 2)
5-year Total: 22.487 Points (Rank: 7)

#24 - Union Dutchmen
Points: 64.1448
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 21-15-2 Overall; 16-5-1 Conference (2nd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.5349 Points (Rank: 22)
5-year Total: 6.8456 Points (Rank: 14)

#23 - St. Lawrence Saints
Points: 68.4998
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 8-27-2 Overall; 3-18-1 Conference (12th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.6494 Points (Rank: 60)
5-year Total: 1.1534 Points (Rank: 35)

#22 - Yale Bulldogs
Points: 76.2993
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 15-15-1 Overall; 10-11-1 Conference (8th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1857 Points (Rank: 27)
5-year Total: 2.1581 Points (Rank: 28)

#21 - Northern Michigan Wildcats
Points: 82.0473
Conference: WCHA
2017-2018 Record: 25-15-3 Overall; 19-7-2 Conference (8th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Championship; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.8686 Points (Rank: 18)
5-year Total: 1.1375 Points (Rank: 37)
 
Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
And rounding out the middle-third, #25-21:

#25 - Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Points: 62.6519
Conference: Big Ten
2017-2018 Record: 28-10-2 Overall; 17-6-1 Conference (1st)
2017-2018 Results: Big Ten Regular Season Champion; Big Ten Tournament Champions; NCAA National Runner-up
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 16.9766 Points (Rank: 2)
5-year Total: 22.487 Points (Rank: 7)

#24 - Union Dutchmen
Points: 64.1448
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 21-15-2 Overall; 16-5-1 Conference (2nd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.5349 Points (Rank: 22)
5-year Total: 6.8456 Points (Rank: 14)

#23 - St. Lawrence Saints
Points: 68.4998
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 8-27-2 Overall; 3-18-1 Conference (12th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.6494 Points (Rank: 60)
5-year Total: 1.1534 Points (Rank: 35)

#22 - Yale Bulldogs
Points: 76.2993
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 15-15-1 Overall; 10-11-1 Conference (8th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1857 Points (Rank: 27)
5-year Total: 2.1581 Points (Rank: 28)

#21 - Northern Michigan Wildcats
Points: 82.0473
Conference: WCHA
2017-2018 Record: 25-15-3 Overall; 19-7-2 Conference (8th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Championship; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.8686 Points (Rank: 18)
5-year Total: 1.1375 Points (Rank: 37)
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Wonder how much an NCAA tournament berth and WCHA championship next year would bump NMU up..
 
Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

SLU was #60 and QU #59, and I thought that it was impossible to do worse than RPI last year. :eek: ;) I wonder if the ECAC swept the bottom 3.
 
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And we begin the final third, here are #20-16:

#20 - Bowling Green Falcons
Points: 82.4437
Conference: WCHA
2017-2018 Record: 23-12-6 Overall; 17-6-5 Conference (3rd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Semifinals; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.9886 Points (Rank: 17)
5-year Total: 1.9733 Points (Rank: 29)

#19 - Providence Friars
Points: 86.2489
Conference: Hockey East
2017-2018 Record: 24-12-4 Overall; 13-7-4 Conference (3rd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in Hockey East Championship; NCAA East Regional Finalist
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 3.1415 Points (Rank: 9)
5-year Total: 37.5636 Points (Rank: 5)

#18 - New Hampshire Wildcats
Points: 88.4274
Conference: Hockey East
2017-2018 Record: 10-20-6 Overall; 5-14-5 Conference (11th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in Hockey East First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.2944 Points (Rank: 53)
5-year Total: 4.8323 Points (Rank: 20)

#17 - Rensselaer Engineers
Points: 100.2667
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 6-27-4 Overall; 4-16-2 Conference (11th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.4563 Points (Rank: 58)
5-year Total: -4.1054 Points (Rank: 60*)

#16 - Clarkson Golden Knights
Points: 131.0266
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 23-11-6 Overall; 12-5-5 Conference (3rd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Championship; NCAA East Regional Semifinalist
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 1.8115 Points (Rank: 12)
5-year Total: 3.0071 Points (Rank: 25)

*There was a data entry correction following the 2014-2015 season for RPI (I believe I had transposed their NCAA Tournament win-loss-tie record) that resulted in about a 3-4 point loss. The Engineers are still probably down a bit over the past 5 seasons, but more likely along the lines of a -1 to -1.5...which would still probably put them in the bottom 2-3 in the country.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
*There was a data entry correction following the 2014-2015 season for RPI (I believe I had transposed their NCAA Tournament win-loss-tie record) that resulted in about a 3-4 point loss. The Engineers are still probably down a bit over the past 5 seasons, but more likely along the lines of a -1 to -1.5...which would still probably put them in the bottom 2-3 in the country.
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As usual, I am confused. RPI's historic NCAA Tournament record is in the red, so if you transpose it, I would expect them to get more, not fewer points.
 
Ralph Baer said:
As usual, I am confused. RPI's historic NCAA Tournament record is in the red, so if you transpose it, I would expect them to get more, not fewer points.
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Correct. And if I had transposed them they would have been green before the correction, which is why they lost points following the correction.
 
Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

Just a quick update, I'll be posting #15-11 next weekend, and then the Top 10 the following weekend. I've been in back-to-back trials the last couple weeks, but we should finish up the second one this week.
 
Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Just a quick update, I'll be posting #15-11 next weekend, and then the Top 10 the following weekend. I've been in back-to-back trials the last couple weeks, but we should finish up the second one this week.
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Do them while the judge reads jury instructions. Everyone will be asleep.
 
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burd said:
Do them while the judge reads jury instructions. Everyone will be asleep.
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Wonder if he's ever tried the 'ol, "Don't sell yourself short judge. You're a tremendous slouch". I've heard it's a great ice-breaker.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Wonder if he's ever tried the 'ol, "Don't sell yourself short judge. You're a tremendous slouch". I've heard it's a great ice-breaker.
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Nice!

I think I asked many moons ago - you live in the Clark area? I lived there in PI when Clark and Subic were operational. Went to high school in Manila but went to the bases for sports events. The revolution was my during my senior year.
 
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defkit said:
Nice!

I think I asked many moons ago - you live in the Clark area? I lived there in PI when Clark and Subic were operational. Went to high school in Manila but went to the bases for sports events. The revolution was my during my senior year.
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Yes - technically in Angeles but I work at new office space they built at SM Clark. Been here since 2015 after first moving to Cavite in Aug 2014.
 
Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

And the programs that sit just on the outside looking in at the Top 10, #15-11:

#15 - Harvard Crimson
Points: 145.4594
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 15-14-4 Overall; 11-8-3 Conference (4th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Semifinals; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.7811 Points (Rank: 19)
5-year Total: 16.3957 Points (Rank: 9)

#14 - Colorado College Tigers
Points: 147.0792
Conference: NCHC
2017-2018 Record: 15-17-5 Overall; 8-12-4 Conference (T5th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in NCHC Quarterfinals; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.3999 Points (Rank: 24)
5-year Total: -1.1087 Points (Rank: 58)

#13 - Lake Superior State Lakers
Points: 154.1845
Conference: WCHA
2017-2018 Record: 10-22-4 Overall; 8-17-3 Conference (9th)
2017-2018 Results: Missed WCHA Tournament; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.4366 Points (Rank: 57)
5-year Total: -0.9838 Points (Rank: 57)

#12 - Cornell Big Red
Points: 163.2471
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 25-6-2 Overall; 17-3-2 Conference (1st)
2017-2018 Results: Won ECAC Regular Season Championship; Lost in ECAC Semifinals; NCAA Northeast Regional Semifinalist
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 3.8833 Points (Rank: 7)
5-year Total: 4.2291 Points (Rank: 21)

#11 - Michigan Tech Huskies
Points: 167.0684
Conference: WCHA
2017-2018 Record: 22-17-5 Overall; 12-11-5 Conference (5th)
2017-2018 Results: WCHA Tournament Champions; NCAA East Regional Semifinalist
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.4071 Points (Rank: 23)
5-year Total: 5.187 Points (Rank: 19)
 
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