The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

Dang. I thought we would be slightly higher. But makes sense I guess. I wanna know who will be one above us.

Either UNH or Clarkson. Probably UNH.

 

[candycanes99]

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These threads are often cool, but didn't we just have one last off-season? Why not wait until the next off-season to do another?

 

[Runninwiththedogs]

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Woohoo! I'm happy to see tUMD at #20. I've been expecting to see them since around Yale or so.

 

[Innova]

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These threads are often cool, but didn't we just have one last off-season? Why not wait until the next off-season to do another?

These comments are often cool, but why are they made before reading the entire thread? Why not see if your question is answered already before you ask it?

 

[Runninwiththedogs]

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These threads are often cool, but didn't we just have one last off-season? Why not wait until the next off-season to do another?

Perhaps you could read the thread and see the explanation FS23 gave?

Or perhaps just not criticize someone else's hard work?

 

[Biddco]

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Yeah, this is a really interesting point in the rankings. Do the lowest of programs who have won a title (probably Bowling Green followed by Northern Michigan) beat the best programs that are currently winless (probably Clarkson followed by New Hampshire... which I believe are the only 2 remaining).

I think seeing BGSU would be the most interesting, and just edging UMD again would just be a bonus.

What are you a BGSU fan?

 

[Biddco]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

These threads are often cool, but didn't we just have one last off-season? Why not wait until the next off-season to do another?

That was the top programs of the 2000's. This is all time.

 

[Rhett]

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What are you a BGSU fan?

There's just something fitting about that razor thin victory a quarter century ago making for another razor thin victory here.

Plus, the extra twists of the knife that rankings like this produce are part of the fun.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Earlier in the thread we sort of discussed this, but what I said was that if I would have had my formula around say 2005, there are plenty of teams that have made the tournament/Frozen Four since then that would have been in the bottom half. There has been a lot of parity in college hockey over the last 5 years, and Quarterfinal and Frozen Four spots are going to teams that have never been in that position before. The next shoe to fall is when a National Championship goes to a team that has never won before. The last time we had a first time champion was in 1993. I expect that we get a new champion in the next 4-5 years, if not sooner.

If Yale can skate around the WCHA ...

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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If Yale can skate around the WHCA ...

FYP.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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These threads are often cool, but didn't we just have one last off-season? Why not wait until the next off-season to do another?

Cause this one is COMPLETELY different than that one was.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Sitting at #19 is New Hampshire. The Wildcats have posted an impressive 20 NCAA Appearances, along with 7 trips to the Frozen Four. Twice UNH has found itself playing for the National Championship, and was closest to winning it all in 1999, but fell in overtime to Maine. The Wildcats have done just about everything a program can do besides win it all. New Hampshire will have a chance this year, as it looks like UNH has itself set up for another NCAA bid. If they can do that, expect the Wildcats to move up the list.

#19 New Hampshire - 77.4096 Points
#20 Minnesota Duluth - 66.5522 Points
#21 St. Lawrence - 64.6435 Points
#22 Providence - 37.9103 Points
#23 Miami - 36.9575 Points
#24 Dartmouth - 35.143 Points
#25 Notre Dame - 33.5788 Points
#26 Yale - 29.1241 Points
#27 Colgate - 27.7915 Points
#28 Northeastern - 24.5696 Points
#29 Brown - 18.3317 Points
#30 Ohio State - 17.0403 Points
#31 Vermont - 15.8285 Points
#32 St. Cloud State - 12.4129 Points
#33 Bemidji State - 11.4454 Points
#34 RIT - 8.1655 Points
#35 Ferris State - 7.8912 Points
#36 UMass Lowell - 7.1081 Points
#37 Niagara - 6.4381 Points
#38 Western Michigan - 5.3974 Points
#39 Princeton - 5.1729 Points
#40 Holy Cross - 4.8647 Points
#41 Alaska-Anchorage - 4.8361 Points
#42 Air Force - 4.1704 Points
#43 Quinnipiac - 3.8994 Points
#44 Mercyhurst - 3.468 Points
#45 Merrimack - 3.1402 Points
#46 Massachusetts - 3.0035 Points
#47 Alaska - 2.9892 Points
#48 Nebraska Omaha - 2.9092 Points
#49 Minnesota State - 2.3131 Points
#50 Alabama Huntsville - 1.9469 Points
#51 Army - 1.3604 Points
#52 Union - 0.6174 Points
#53 UConn - 0.1921 Points
#54 Sacred Heart - 0.1703 Points
#55 Bentley - .0279 Points
#56 Robert Morris - .0245 Points
#57 Canisius - .0205 Points
#58 American International - .0061 Points

 

[Erix_The_Red]

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, and was closest to winning it all in 1999, but fell in overtime to Maine.

Is hopes-and-dreams-dashed a factor in the equation? That would really boost the alma mater.

 

[Slasher7]

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Sitting at #19 is New Hampshire. The Wildcats have posted an impressive 20 NCAA Appearances, along with 7 trips to the Frozen Four. Twice UNH has found itself playing for the National Championship, and was closest to winning it all in 1999, but fell in overtime to Maine. The Wildcats have done just about everything a program can do besides win it all. New Hampshire will have a chance this year, as it looks like UNH has itself set up for another NCAA bid. If they can do that, expect the Wildcats to move up the list.

#19 New Hampshire - 77.4096 Points
#20 Minnesota Duluth - 66.5522 Points
#21 St. Lawrence - 64.6435 Points
#22 Providence - 37.9103 Points
#23 Miami - 36.9575 Points
#24 Dartmouth - 35.143 Points
#25 Notre Dame - 33.5788 Points
#26 Yale - 29.1241 Points
#27 Colgate - 27.7915 Points
#28 Northeastern - 24.5696 Points
#29 Brown - 18.3317 Points
#30 Ohio State - 17.0403 Points
#31 Vermont - 15.8285 Points
#32 St. Cloud State - 12.4129 Points
#33 Bemidji State - 11.4454 Points
#34 RIT - 8.1655 Points
#35 Ferris State - 7.8912 Points
#36 UMass Lowell - 7.1081 Points
#37 Niagara - 6.4381 Points
#38 Western Michigan - 5.3974 Points
#39 Princeton - 5.1729 Points
#40 Holy Cross - 4.8647 Points
#41 Alaska-Anchorage - 4.8361 Points
#42 Air Force - 4.1704 Points
#43 Quinnipiac - 3.8994 Points
#44 Mercyhurst - 3.468 Points
#45 Merrimack - 3.1402 Points
#46 Massachusetts - 3.0035 Points
#47 Alaska - 2.9892 Points
#48 Nebraska Omaha - 2.9092 Points
#49 Minnesota State - 2.3131 Points
#50 Alabama Huntsville - 1.9469 Points
#51 Army - 1.3604 Points
#52 Union - 0.6174 Points
#53 UConn - 0.1921 Points
#54 Sacred Heart - 0.1703 Points
#55 Bentley - .0279 Points
#56 Robert Morris - .0245 Points
#57 Canisius - .0205 Points
#58 American International - .0061 Points

Wow, can you imagine how high UNH would have been if the refs didn't screw them in every loss they ever had?

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Wow, can you imagine how high UNH would have been if the refs didn't screw them in every loss they ever had?

Being undefeated would definitely boost their ranking.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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At this point we know that winning a title is very important for points.

 

[owslachief]

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Colgate winds up at #27. The (Red) Raiders have made 4 trips to the NCAA tournament, including their memorable run in 1990, advancing all the way to the National Championship.

Their one brush with greatness, if you will.

 

[alfablue]

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At this point we know that winning a title is very important for points.

I think count right to very much confirm- there are 17 teams that have won NC's, and only 18 teams left on the list. What will be very telling is the next team-are they the best team never to win, will the never win pass a winner?

And if I'm reading the results right, the next team should be Clarkson- 20 NCAA's, 2 runner ups. 4 thirds out do UNH's 2.

 

[HumRsky]

At this point we know that winning a title is very important for points.

Indeed. I would generally put teams like New Hampshire and Clarkson ahead of some teams with a title or two like Bowling Green, Northern Michigan or RPI. This is not a criticism of these rankings, I think fans of any team without a title would trade all of their achievements for one. I remember that CAH's rankings a few years ago had those two schools above some that had won National Titles.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Indeed. I would generally put teams like New Hampshire and Clarkson ahead of some teams with a title or two like Bowling Green, Northern Michigan or RPI. This is not a criticism of these rankings, I think fans of any team without a title would trade all of their achievements for one. I remember that CAH's rankings a few years ago had those to school above some that had won National Titles.

I think UNH, Clarkson, even tUMD would be higher than those three, but that's just an observation. FS23 has the numbers, I don't.