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The GQP Thread: I'm even sick of that fuck's number and, anyway, he's gone (for now)

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French Rage said:
Yes, historic turnout during incredibly difficult times, and no systematic fraud. The reasonable conclusion would be to not change anything.
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Not only is there not systemic fraud...but it seems like it is even lower than what would normally be expected. By every measure, this whole thing has been a wild success...which is why braindead fuckwits just can't handle it.
 
And on the off chance it happens and is successful it will lead to the dissolving of the US which is what they really want.
 
Handyman said:
And on the off chance it happens and is successful it will lead to the dissolving of the US which is what they really want.
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Yeah, that would mean fighting in the streets. Nobody on either side wants a complete rewrite except a few psychotics.

Long before that I say we first world states politely withdraw.

Dump the Usual Suspects and build a wall.
 
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right wing fuckwits have been historically wrong about so much, but the fecal matter spewing from their mouths about the 2020 election is possibly the thing they have been most wrong about.

The scrutiny the 2020 elections went through was unprecedented. Our elections are difficult enough to tamper with on a large enough scale to allow fraud to change the outcome of anything but the most local of races. The idea that an entire state's elections can be decided by fraud was somewhat laughable BEFORE trump came along and poisoned that well. But the people who were actually paying attention in 2020 have all concluded that it was likely a set of the best run and most accurately counted elections for federal office we have had.

The ONLY thing I fear about election security is I know that republicans are going to try 100 times as hard going forward to engineer conditions for their candidates to win. They know that their only hope IS fraud. AND they are willing to do it. Democrats will play by the rules, even if it means the end of democracy in this country.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
right wing fuckwits have been historically wrong about so much, but the fecal matter spewing from their mouths about the 2020 election is possibly the thing they have been most wrong about.

The scrutiny the 2020 elections went through was unprecedented. Our elections are difficult enough to tamper with on a large enough scale to allow fraud to change the outcome of anything but the most local of races. The idea that an entire state's elections can be decided by fraud was somewhat laughable BEFORE trump came along and poisoned that well. But the people who were actually paying attention in 2020 have all concluded that it was likely a set of the best run and most accurately counted elections for federal office we have had.

The ONLY thing I fear about election security is I know that republicans are going to try 100 times as hard going forward to engineer conditions for their candidates to win. They know that their only hope IS fraud. AND they are willing to do it. Democrats will play by the rules, even if it means the end of democracy in this country.
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Regarding the bold - remember, all the races were fine and legit except the President's.
 
There are plenty of precedents for the type of fraudulent elections we will see if the GOP gains sufficient power. In some countries, everybody knows the elections are crooked but they can't do anything about them and there is arrest, torture, and imprisonment for anyone who speaks the truth. This is true in Putin's Russia and it is inevitably true wherever the Right gets a firm hold. The Right admit they are fundamentally anti-democratic. They are in touch with the "real" source of sovereignty, which is not the popular will but Common Sense or the will of "legitimate citizens."

And legitimate citizens just turn out to be right wingers. The fundamental difference between the Left and the Right, over all, is the Left attempts to extend power to everyone equally, while the Right attempts to hoard power in the "right" people. That is why the logical extension of the Left is democracy and the logical extension of the Right is autocracy.
 
wearendhockey said:
right wing fuckwits have been historically wrong about so much, but the fecal matter spewing from their mouths about the 2020 election is possibly the thing they have been most wrong about.

The scrutiny the 2020 elections went through was unprecedented. Our elections are difficult enough to tamper with on a large enough scale to allow fraud to change the outcome of anything but the most local of races. The idea that an entire state's elections can be decided by fraud was somewhat laughable before trump came along and poisoned that well. But the people who were actually paying attention in 2020 have all concluded that it was likely a set of the best run and most accurately counted elections for federal office we have had.
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they.......don't........care.......
 
rufus said:
they.......don't........care.......
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Sure republicans don't care, but a poll conducted for NPR a full year after the 2020 elections showed nearly 20% of DEMOCRATS would not trust electionsresults in 2024. That is an issue because while I could care less if spoiled GQP supporters sit out an election they claim is rigged, I certainly don't want people who would otherwise be voting for the likes of Warnock or Ryan or Fetterman or Biden to do that.

The real issue is voter suppression, by whatever means necessary. That is the republican playbook. Once the vote is cast, the counting is trustworthy, and we need to make sure people realize this and make whatever effort they need to vote. You can't count a vote if it was never cast.
 
No, I'm saying, they don't care if the election was fradulent, or if it was sqeaky clean. They're still gonna claim it was fraud, that it was stolen, and the Dems cheated. All the evidence in the world to the contrary, they're still gonna, well, not believe it, necessarily, but still scream it from the rooftops.

Half these people screaming about election fraud and a stolen election know damm well that neither occurred. But they're still gonna keep screaming about it. Because as you pointed out, it has an effect. You cannot shame them into behaving morally, to acknowledge facts and self-evident truths. For by doing so, they lose. And winning is all that matters. That, and owning the libs.
 
The GOP leaders obviously know there was no fraud. Only Dump and the Dumpies believe it. Dump actually believes anything that pets his ego -- he has no conception of truth as anything but what is convenient for him at any given time. He is an infant in a sagging, aged fat suit.

As for the Dumpies, you'd have to ask them. I don't think they can possibly all share Dump's cognitive and moral deficiency, so I assume they are just so stupid and gullible they will fall for anything Fearless Leader says.
 
Eric greitens lost, womp womp.

kari lake is currently down in az
 
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