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The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
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Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
Still wondering if Opie will address Reagan's failure to hold Soviets to account for blowing up Korean airliner in 1983. Or if a stern lecture in the UN was enough for him. Also I don't recall any justice being handed out after the bombing in Beirut. Pretty wimpy of whoever the Prez was at the time if you ask me.
Still wondering if Opie will address Reagan's failure to hold Soviets to account for blowing up Korean airliner in 1983. Or if a stern lecture in the UN was enough for him. Also I don't recall any justice being handed out after the bombing in Beirut. Pretty wimpy of whoever the Prez was at the time if you ask me.
Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
Still not sure what the problem is over how Syria is turning out. For the complainers out there, right and left, should we have either 1) bombed Syria anyway, or 2) done nothing while the poisonous gas continued to fly? What exactly is your solution? Two weeks ago if anybody suggested Russia would go along with a UN mandate to clean up chemical weapons after Assad admitted having them in order to advert a military strike, people would have thought you were nuts. Sometimes its okay to acknowledge a victory. Some commentators are so used to losing, probably a reflection of their personal lives, that they don't know a win when they see it.
Still not sure what the problem is over how Syria is turning out. For the complainers out there, right and left, should we have either 1) bombed Syria anyway, or 2) done nothing while the poisonous gas continued to fly? What exactly is your solution? Two weeks ago if anybody suggested Russia would go along with a UN mandate to clean up chemical weapons after Assad admitted having them in order to advert a military strike, people would have thought you were nuts. Sometimes its okay to acknowledge a victory. Some commentators are so used to losing, probably a reflection of their personal lives, that they don't know a win when they see it.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
McCain would like you to know that we lost in Syria and the people there are never going to forget that we didn't come to their aid. (heard on Morning Joe this morning actually)
McCain would like you to know that we lost in Syria and the people there are never going to forget that we didn't come to their aid. (heard on Morning Joe this morning actually)
Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
We're coming up in a little less than a year to the 100th anniversary of the "War to End All Wars". Here is a quote from the book "The Somme", by Peter Hart (c) 2008
Those who can't remember the past are doomed to repeat it -- George Santayana
We're coming up in a little less than a year to the 100th anniversary of the "War to End All Wars". Here is a quote from the book "The Somme", by Peter Hart (c) 2008
Those who can't remember the past are doomed to repeat it -- George Santayana
Funny thing about McCain is that while I disagree with him vehemently on this issue, as well as Iraq, I at least can see where he's coming from. The dude's a Cold Warrior through and through, and during the Cold War things were black and white. You were either with us or the Soviets, and we'd ally with anybody who opposed the commies, even if they were no better (Said-Barre, South African regimes, Pinochet, Mubarek, etc). So in McCain's mind, forged via the conflicts he lived through and fought in, you go after Assad with the full force of the US military and don't worry too much about who the people are that will fill that vacuum once he's gone.
Fortunately his view (neo-conservatism) is dead. It was killed in the sands of Iraq by the incomptence and lies of the Bush/Cheney regime. In its place you're going to see isolationism out of the libertarian right at least until one of them becomes President.
McCain really needs to retire. He's a dinosaur amongst a party of dinosaurs. Problem for him is all the other dino's are of the economics breed so he's going to be the first to go. I remember the world as it still exists in McCain's mind. Problem is that world ceased to exist in November of 1989. Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
The poster boy for hebephrenia.
Still wondering if Opie will address Reagan's failure to hold Soviets to account for blowing up Korean airliner in 1983. Or if a stern lecture in the UN was enough for him. Also I don't recall any justice being handed out after the bombing in Beirut. Pretty wimpy of whoever the Prez was at the time if you ask me.
The poster boy for hebephrenia.
If the alternative is another Iraq-like war, then yes.
unofan
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You still haven't told us what you personally think we should do. All you've done is ***** about everything that has been on the table. Which is shocking coming from a Fark Independent (tm), i know.
I won't be holding my breath waiting for you to say anything substantive.
Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
I'm trying to decide: Metternich or Bismarck. Either way, a load of frenzied libtard crap.
I'm trying to decide: Metternich or Bismarck. Either way, a load of frenzied libtard crap.
Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
We should have been level-headed and sensible from the outset, you twit. You know that too.
Get in our time machines and go back to 2009 and the Green Revolution in Iran and support the people there against the theocracy, so that Assad no longer has a patron in Iran to back him.
Go back to the beginning of the Syrian uprising, when it was just regular people, before all the al Qaida types flocked there, and take out all of Assad's air force then, and arm the rebels then.
When you have an incompetent self-absorbed teenager in charge of things who enters into screwup after screwup after screwup, and then you say, now that decision after decision after decision has been botched beyond repair, now what?
We had said earlier that "Assad must go." now we have allowed ourselves to be maneuvered into a situation in which "Assad must stay." and you are cheering every step of the way. at least you are consistent in your sycophancy. must give you credit for that.
We should have been level-headed and sensible from the outset, you twit. You know that too.
Get in our time machines and go back to 2009 and the Green Revolution in Iran and support the people there against the theocracy, so that Assad no longer has a patron in Iran to back him.
Go back to the beginning of the Syrian uprising, when it was just regular people, before all the al Qaida types flocked there, and take out all of Assad's air force then, and arm the rebels then.
When you have an incompetent self-absorbed teenager in charge of things who enters into screwup after screwup after screwup, and then you say, now that decision after decision after decision has been botched beyond repair, now what?
We had said earlier that "Assad must go." now we have allowed ourselves to be maneuvered into a situation in which "Assad must stay." and you are cheering every step of the way. at least you are consistent in your sycophancy. must give you credit for that.
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unofan
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By all means correct me if I'm putting words in your mouth, but are you really saying we should have put boots on the ground in Iran? In 2009? When the public was already sick of the two wars we were currently in? And with a president elected at least partially on an anti-war platform?
Yeah, that would've gone over like a ton of bricks.
At least your true feelings about the president are coming out. Finally some actual sincere rants rather than your "I'm a progressive independent who is just asking questions" routine. Keep that up. It suits you.
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Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
Ever notice how every knuckledragger always sings the same song? Guess simple minds do think alike!
So, take Syria. A calling card of the caveman crowd is that "we should have intervened sooner". How, I ask? By bombing Syria? By arming the rebels, the same people you knucks' are saying sympathize with Al Qaida? Make up your minds already. This is why you all have the credibility of used car salesmen. What happened to Mittens in the last election when tried to play the "told ya so" game without offering squat for solutions? That's right, he was beaten. Soundly.
So, you've got people like Opie who can't bring himself to admit the Iraq war was a mistake, but people like Fishy thinking we somehow have influence in Iran.
I hope you people are getting paid to sound this idiotic. Because if you're not God help you. 
Ever notice how every knuckledragger always sings the same song? Guess simple minds do think alike!
So, take Syria. A calling card of the caveman crowd is that "we should have intervened sooner". How, I ask? By bombing Syria? By arming the rebels, the same people you knucks' are saying sympathize with Al Qaida? Make up your minds already. This is why you all have the credibility of used car salesmen. What happened to Mittens in the last election when tried to play the "told ya so" game without offering squat for solutions? That's right, he was beaten. Soundly.
So, you've got people like Opie who can't bring himself to admit the Iraq war was a mistake, but people like Fishy thinking we somehow have influence in Iran.
I hope you people are getting paid to sound this idiotic. Because if you're not God help you. Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
Right now I see Obama realizing he was about to do something stupid and is now backing out of that choice. At least I hope that is what goes on. I only hope he has the same revelations over some of his domestic policy choices.
Right now I see Obama realizing he was about to do something stupid and is now backing out of that choice. At least I hope that is what goes on. I only hope he has the same revelations over some of his domestic policy choices.
Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
Neville's certainly being paid. As is his doofus SecState. How's that working out? Better check with that KGB thug before you answer.
Ever notice how every knuckledragger always sings the same song? Guess simple minds do think alike!
So, take Syria. A calling card of the caveman crowd is that "we should have intervened sooner". How, I ask? By bombing Syria? By arming the rebels, the same people you knucks' are saying sympathize with Al Qaida? Make up your minds already. This is why you all have the credibility of used car salesmen. What happened to Mittens in the last election when tried to play the "told ya so" game without offering squat for solutions? That's right, he was beaten. Soundly.
So, you've got people like Opie who can't bring himself to admit the Iraq war was a mistake, but people like Fishy thinking we somehow have influence in Iran.
Neville's certainly being paid. As is his doofus SecState. How's that working out? Better check with that KGB thug before you answer.
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Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
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Such as the one writing ^^
Re: The Global War on Terror - Chapter 5 -- Putin on the Blitz!
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Oye como va was good to.