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The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

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Rover said:
The lesson for me (aside from some world leaders like Karzai need to be told to S T F U) is that you can't let a war become an occupation. Strike militarily, then leave. If trouble starts again, strike again. The two most successful recent wars, Bosnia and the Gulf War, were done in this manner. Yes in both cases we had to launch more military strikes (Kosovo in the Balkans and multiple strikes against Saddam pre-Bush II) but never was the US responsible for the wholesale security of either country.

So, same thing with ISIS. Bomb the p !ss out of them until they go away and let local troops deal with them. If they stick their heads up again later on, start bombing again. Its far better than restarting the ludicrous Iraq War complete with boots on the ground doing the fighting for the Iraqis.
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The lesson for me is you leave the country in shambles OR you take it over. **** nation building and all it entails.
 
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Looks like a Frenchman got beheaded. Meanwhile in Marseilles. ...
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I find it interesting that neither Lindsey, nor King, nor McCain thought it important for Obama to have authorization before bombing Syria.

And, I also find it interesting that the Bone Man and McConnell want their states to re-elect them to great positions of power while they spend their current time in office shirking their responsibility.

Congress is broken.
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Not a syllable of criticism for a single Democrat. Including the cup wielding clown in the WH. Nicely done. I'm trying to guess your reaction if either Bush had failed to go to Congress for authorization for military action. Just a WAG, but I'm guessing you'd have been a teensy bit critical.
 
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Old Pio said:
Not a syllable of criticism for a single Democrat. Including the cup wielding clown in the WH. Nicely done. I'm trying to guess your reaction if either Bush had failed to go to Congress for authorization for military action. Just a WAG, but I'm guessing you'd have been a teensy bit critical.
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Obama didn't fail to go to Congress. He asked Congress to do it and they declined.

Bush took us to war when he knew better. Now Obama is doing the same. They're both idiots as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Old Pio said:
Not a syllable of criticism for a single Democrat. Including the cup wielding clown in the WH. Nicely done. I'm trying to guess your reaction if either Bush had failed to go to Congress for authorization for military action. Just a WAG, but I'm guessing you'd have been a teensy bit critical.
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I'm trying to remember the name of the poster who always hyperventilates whenever anyone else brings Bush The Lesser into a discussion. An old guy wearing a perpetual scowl and what remains of a 50-yerar-old Goldwater for President t-shirt.
 
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burd said:
I'm trying to remember the name of the poster who always hyperventilates whenever anyone else brings Bush The Lesser into a discussion. An old guy wearing a perpetual scowl and what remains of a 50-yerar-old Goldwater for President t-shirt.
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Perhaps. At least the old dude makes an effort (not always successfully) to be consistent. Unlike others (who shall go nameless) who find no fault whatsoever with any Democrat anywhere, ever (unless he/she changes party) especially The One. Kepler, to the best of my knowledge, is the only member of the chorale to suggest He needs congressional approval here. The rest of you just genuflect every time he walks by. The old boy also occasionally wonders when the ladies of the chorale will start laying at least a little blame at the feet of the Community Organizer in Chief. It's been six years, girls.

BTW, that's not a scowl. It's gas.
 
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Old Pio said:
Perhaps. At least the old dude makes an effort (not always successfully) to be consistent. Unlike others (who shall go nameless) who find no fault whatsoever with any Democrat anywhere, ever (unless he/she changes party) especially The One. Kepler, to the best of my knowledge, is the only member of the chorale to suggest He needs congressional approval here. The rest of you just genuflect every time he walks by. The old boy also occasionally wonders when the ladies of the chorale will start laying at least a little blame at the feet of the Community Organizer in Chief. It's been six years, girls.

BTW, that's not a scowl. It's gas.
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I'm going to give you credit for spending only half your time in fantasyland in this post Opie! I've often been on Obama's case for not sending you to that gulag you so richly deserve to reside in, but I must complement you on the self realization that you're a weird, unpleasant, smelly old geezer. So, kudos to you...I guess...:D ;)
 
Rover said:
I'm going to give you credit for spending only half your time in fantasyland in this post Opie! I've often been on Obama's case for not sending you to that gulag you so richly deserve to reside in, but I must complement you on the self realization that you're a weird, unpleasant, smelly old geezer. So, kudos to you...I guess...:D ;)
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Why is it a lot of liberal Democrats shout from the highest mountain they love free speech, yet do their ****dest to restrict it - particularly when they disagree with the speaker or subject matter?
 
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joecct said:
Why is it a lot of liberal Democrats shout from the highest mountain they love free speech, yet do their ****dest to restrict it - particularly when they disagree with the speaker or subject matter?
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I'm not trying to restrict Opie's free speech. He can have a computer in the gulag if he chooses.
 
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Why is it a lot of liberal Democrats shout from the highest mountain they love free speech, yet do their ****dest to restrict it - particularly when they disagree with the speaker or subject matter?
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Why is it the people who scream the most about free speech know the least about the first amendment or what it actually means?
 
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Old Pio said:
Kepler, to the best of my knowledge, is the only member of the chorale to suggest He needs congressional approval here.
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I do not think this is true. I don't have a scorecard, but I think there are a bunch of liberals here who take Congressional approval of acts of war seriously and want to see the Executive hamstrung unless it is a case of defense against immediate, specific danger. One of Obama's many failing in my eyes is he campaigned on the understanding that Unitary Executive Theory is unconstitutional and hugely dangerous and should be tossed onto the ash heap of history. No doubt he would argue that in the absence of a functioning Congress he has no choice. I disagree. I think by continuing the trend of usurping legislative prerogatives he has emboldened the cynics in the GOP caucus, since they can both have their cake (not take potentially embarrassing actions) and eat it too (blame him if it goes wrong; say he should have acted sooner if it goes right; sue him for the usurpation of power in either case). For that matter, he's also let a lot of Dem Members off the hook who don't want to risk making their own version of Hillary's Iraq vote.

The presidency is far, far too strong as has been so since WW2. Every subsequent president, of both parties, has made it worse. The incumbent party is always tempted to use this power "for good," particularly when the other party controls Congress, but that's not the way our government is supposed to work. Even if it is too much to ask for a president to "unilaterally disarm" in the face of a opposing Congress, I hope that someday the fever breaks and, perhaps during a period of hat trick rule, the branches come back into alignment.
 
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Old Pio said:
Kepler, to the best of my knowledge, is the only member of the chorale to suggest He needs congressional approval here.
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This is the most laughable comment, yet. The guys in Congress who scream the loudest about war (Lindsey, McCain, and King) are also the biggest ******* when it comes to Congressional approval and fighting for it.

The Bone Man and McConnell have been gutless on the matter.
 
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