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The FIFA World Cup Thread (Spoilers Welcome)

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Kepler said:
I think half the excitement of the celebration was not the fact of the win but the way we did it (blowing the lead late, then scoring in the waning moments despite not having a decent scoring chance in the second half). You go nuts for a walkoff even if you beat the Mets.
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Kepler said:
I think half the excitement of the celebration was not the fact of the win but the way we did it (blowing the lead late, then scoring in the waning moments despite not having a decent scoring chance in the second half). You go nuts for a walkoff even if you beat the Mets.
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I see what he's getting at though, and I agree with him on some points, and disagree on others. I feel like people are trying to force another Donovan/Algeria moment out of this. It's not. Did I celebrate? Of course, and so did everyone else I watched the game with. Everyone knows how important it was to get three points last night.

But to go along with your walk-off analogy, this was like doing it in the final week of the regular season in a pennant race. Go up two games with three games left, essentially lock up the division. It would take a semi-collapse to not move on right now. The Algeria goal was Magglio's walk-off to send Detroit to the WS in '06.

Both are exciting, one was just more exciting and warranted more of a celebration.

Belgium ties it up at 1 on a spectacular header.
 
Kepler said:
I think half the excitement of the celebration was not the fact of the win but the way we did it (blowing the lead late, then scoring in the waning moments despite not having a decent scoring chance in the second half). You go nuts for a walkoff even if you beat the Mets.
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The other half being that Ghana has been our World Cup boogeyman lately. It was nice to finally get one back on them.
 
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J.D. said:
This is where we go our different ways. Ghana is nowhere close to being a bad team. I'm not sure where you got that from. They easily could have been in the semifinals last time around. What do you propose? The country has been/is paying attention. As I said, people like showing their American pride. I don't see how telling people we are better than we actually are will change anything. The people who know the game know that expecting to beat Germany is foolish (not because it won't ever happen but because right now they are superior). The people who don't know the game will certainly tune in regardless because they don't know any better.
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There are 4 teams in our group, Germany, Portugal, Ghana, and the US. Of those 4 teams, which are the bottom two?

Maybe I should not say bad. But Germany and Portugal they are not. We just beat the other team in our group that isn't expected to advance- how's that?

Again, I'm not saying DON'T celebrate, I'm saying we need some perspective.

If you think I'm suggesting that we don't celebrate, I'm not sure how to react to that. I guess that participation trophy you got as a kid really does mean something.

I AM saying that we celebrate as if we have done this before. And that we will do it again. It's one game in the first round of the world cup.

If we do that same kind of win in the first game of the second round, that would be a much bigger deal. Or win a semi final game regardless.
 
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alfablue said:
Again, I'm not saying DON'T celebrate, I'm saying we need some perspective.

If you think I'm suggesting that we don't celebrate, I'm not sure how to react to that. I guess that participation trophy you got as a kid really does mean something.

I AM saying that we celebrate as if we have done this before. And that we will do it again. It's one game in the first round of the world cup.
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I don't know who you're referring to. Certainly not me, I have perspective on this. So I'm not sure if you're talking about other people on here or the American pride soccer fans--you can't expect that group to react with perspective. They aren't the real soccer fans.
 
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and i take back what i said earlier...not sure we could beat THIS 2nd half Belgium ;)
 
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J.D. said:
I don't know who you're referring to. Certainly not me, I have perspective on this. So I'm not sure if you're talking about other people on here or the American pride soccer fans--you can't expect that group to react with perspective. They aren't the real soccer fans.
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It wasn't directed at you- just that I wanted to reply to the part of the other bottom team in our group note. The rest of the post was about many of the other replies.

I have pride in American teams too, but that wasn't the Miracle on Grass event that we all would like to see repeated from the hockey team. It was more the last min tie of the Swedes.
 
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Has anyone seen / does anyone have a decent explanation on why there is so much scoring this year (so far)?

or has it been more the case that scoring in the prior few World Cups was down and we are merely reverting to more normal levels?

It seems that more teams are trying to attack this year, the notion of playing everyone back and hoping for a 0 - 0 draw is out of favor (with one exception so far....)
 
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alfablue said:
I have pride in American teams too, but that wasn't the Miracle on Grass event that we all would like to see repeated from the hockey team. It was more the last min tie of the Swedes.
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Right, but you sound like a legit soccer fan. There are plenty of people out there who simply don't think of this like the real, hardcore fans. To be honest, I haven't seen the real fans on here go overboard about the W in hindsight. Sure, at the time maybe we were all a bit excited but I think we all grasp that it wasn't a great performance. Even Klinsmann acknowledged that.
 
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alfablue said:
There are 4 teams in our group, Germany, Portugal, Ghana, and the US. Of those 4 teams, which are the bottom two?

Maybe I should not say bad. But Germany and Portugal they are not. We just beat the other team in our group that isn't expected to advance- how's that?

Again, I'm not saying DON'T celebrate, I'm saying we need some perspective.

If you think I'm suggesting that we don't celebrate, I'm not sure how to react to that. I guess that participation trophy you got as a kid really does mean something.

I AM saying that we celebrate as if we have done this before. And that we will do it again. It's one game in the first round of the world cup.

If we do that same kind of win in the first game of the second round, that would be a much bigger deal. Or win a semi final game regardless.
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But we've never beaten Ghana before...
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
But we've never beaten Ghana before...
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Doesn't matter. You are allowed to celebrate it for 22.4 seconds before moving on. No videos showing how excited people from across the country are for that 22.4 seconds. No talking about how exciting it was to score right off the bat and then get the go-ahead-goal late. Celebrate for 22.4 seconds and then move on. To do any more would be a disservice to the country and will clearly affect how this team performs in perpetuity. :rolleyes:
 
Priceless said:
On a Monday night with a 6pm start on a cable network the USA-GHA game pulled a 7.0 nationally.

On a Sunday night, in primetime on a major network, the far more established NBA drew a 6.8 rating for Game 5 of its championship.

I think the soccer world deserves credit for getting that many casual fans into the game. Can you imagine what the TV number will be for USA-POR on Sunday night?

Edit: The New York number was just announced.
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A 7.0 rating for ESPN is still less viewers than 6.8 on ABC, given the differences between cable and OTA broadcasts.

Still impressive, but they aren't directly comparable until the number of viewers is looked at.
 
J.D. said:
So if two teams finished tied in points but the head to head meeting was not a tie...it still goes to goal differential and not who won the head to head?
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Yes. Head to head is the 3rd tiebreaker after goal differential and goals scored.
 
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unofan said:
A 7.0 rating for ESPN is still less viewers than 6.8 on ABC, given the differences between cable and OTA broadcasts.

Still impressive, but they aren't directly comparable until the number of viewers is looked at.
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Would you mind explaining how this further?
 
unofan said:
A 7.0 rating for ESPN is still less viewers than 6.8 on ABC, given the differences between cable and OTA broadcasts.

Still impressive, but they aren't directly comparable until the number of viewers is looked at.
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Total Viewers was just released: 11.09 million for the USA-GHA game. 13.41 for the NBA (though ABC says 17.88)
I don't know if the viewers number is both Univision and ESPN or just ESPN.
 
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CONCACAF finishes the first set of games 3-1. Outstanding start for the federation.
 
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