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The end of leagues as we know?

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bigblue_dl said:
I can't wait for them to fall on their faces. What are the lowest TV ratings in history? Do they realize that about 17 people total care about Denver hockey and that 50% of the TVs in North Dakota are under water at any given time? But don't worry, they have the nationally promient UNO, UMD and Miami of Ohio to get ratings. Give me a break, no one nationally is going to care about it.
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most sports fans think Miami is where the Dolphins play.
 
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You do realize you're talking about Versus, right? If they cared about TV ratings, they wouldn't run volleyball, hunting shows, Tour de France re-runs, or poker in primetime. All the Super 7/8 cares about is getting that TV contract and getting the TV money. Once that contract is signed, it doesn't matter if 17 people watch a game on VS or 17 million...the money is already out.
 
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Wow. I thought it was bad enough that (1) TV station was destroying college hockey. Now it's (2) TV stations?

Crazy.

Apparently some people haven't figured out that no one watches hockey on TV.
 
bigblue_dl said:
I think this is an understatement.

Quote from Bruce McLeod:
“There’s going to be some awful, awful hard feelings, and that will be reflected in scheduling prerogatives for all of the institutions involved, et cetera. So it’s not going to be an easy road here for the next couple of years, that’s for sure.”
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IIRC a lot of schools can't play any schools with a "hostile and abusive" nickname.
 
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T.V. has an insatiable appetite for new material, and it isn't simply audience size which determines the success of programming. Advertisers key on demographics, and the demographics of college hockey viewers could be very attractive to the advertisers of certain products. Do not write off the viability of televised college hockey. Remember, millions of Americans can't wait to see more of the adventures of Snookie.
For several years the denizens of this site have been in denial of the power of T.V. in college hockey; vituperative denial at times. Now grudging acceptance is taking root. The process continues.
 
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aparch said:
WMU is out of the Super 8 conference? I never thought I'd see the day when the CCHA is on more solid ground than the WCHA. :eek:
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Until you guys get invited to the WCHA, think about it for 8 seconds and leave. :p
 
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bronconick said:
Until you guys get invited to the WCHA, think about it for 8 seconds and leave. :p
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:o *innocent whistling* :D



I feel/fear that the CCHA is where we will stay until the CCHA's demise. Too much has been invested into why we're in the league that it would take quite the assurance from the WCHA/Motel6/Super8/Whoever is interested in the program/ where the benefits finally outweigh the cost of moving. One of the downsides of using the hockey program as a marketing aid for the University.
 
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Osorojo said:
T.V. has an insatiable appetite for new material, and it isn't simply audience size which determines the success of programming. Advertisers key on demographics, and the demographics of college hockey viewers could be very attractive to the advertisers of certain products. Do not write off the viability of televised college hockey. Remember, millions of Americans can't wait to see more of the adventures of Snookie.
For several years the denizens of this site have been in denial of the power of T.V. in college hockey; vituperative denial at times. Now grudging acceptance is taking root. The process continues.
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Some of us went to technical schools and don't understand those big Ivy League words you're using. :p
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Wow. I thought it was bad enough that (1) TV station was destroying college hockey. Now it's (2) TV stations?

Crazy.

Apparently some people haven't figured out that no one watches hockey on TV.
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Versus thinks that people do. We'll see about college hockey though.
 
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History does repeat itself. In 1950 college football was a niche sport when Penn and Notre Dame signed national T.V. contracts. The NCAA intervened and from 1955 to 1981 the NCAA permitted televised broadcasts of eight national games a year plus five weeks when regional games could be televised. An anti-trust suit in 1984 led to the negotiation of college football television contracts by the College Football Association, the Big Ten, and the Pac Ten. In 1991 Notre Dame left the CFA and negotiated directly with NBC, and the floodgates were opened.
The self-described "Super League" of college hockey will avidly pursue T.V. contracts, but greed and the Sherman Act will insure that the "Super League" has a brief lifespan. One member of that league will break away and negotiate its own T.V. contract. Any bets on which team?
 
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Osorojo said:
History does repeat itself. In 1950 college football was a niche sport when Penn and Notre Dame signed national T.V. contracts. The NCAA intervened and from 1955 to 1981 the NCAA permitted televised broadcasts of eight national games a year plus five weeks when regional games could be televised. An anti-trust suit in 1984 led to the negotiation of college football television contracts by the College Football Association, the Big Ten, and the Pac Ten. In 1991 Notre Dame left the CFA and negotiated directly with NBC, and the floodgates were opened.
The self-described "Super League" of college hockey will avidly pursue T.V. contracts, but greed and the Sherman Act will insure that the "Super League" has a brief lifespan. One member of that league will break away and negotiate its own T.V. contract. Any bets on which team?
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uhhhh..... the Sherman Antitrust Act did exactly the opposite of what you said here in your second paragraph. The NCAA, from your words, was trying to PREVENT media contracts in order to ensure admission money at the gates were collected. THAT is what was broken up. With the TV contracts (for the Super League, or ND Football, or WHATEVER the case may be), there's still a choice of enjoying the game between attending (and paying admission of course), watching on TV (assuming a TV station is willing to cover the game, we can include B2 and independent TV clubs), or listen on the radio (many schools have a radio station and/or internet stream, typically produced by a club on campus). Plenty of competition is available. What are you going to break up?
 
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SiouxFanatic said:
Michigan? Like they'd visit in the first place. Last time they visited GF was because they had to(NCAA regionals).

And if Minnesota brass doesn't want to play UND because of this(lets be honest all this no playing talk is what you Gopher fans want as a form of retaliation), then so be it.

You guys will be just as hurt by UND not visiting the Mooch. I'm sure Penn State, Ohio State, and MSU will fill UND's absence, yeah?
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U MN will never be worried about filling the barn with top competitors.

UND (and frankly most schools) salavate at playing in Minneapolis. If for no other reason, its direct exposure straight into the living room of the nations top and most concentrated recruiting grounds. On the other hand, I don't think we'll be waiting for the second coming of Potulny.
 
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What defines a successful program? Winning.

Winning puts butts in seats, generates revenue and interest, and drives future opportunities. Maybe SCSU, MSU-M, and MTU will start winning and generate their own destinies. But that won't happen if it is just one big pity-party in those athletic departments.

Here's hoping continued success for BSU because they seem to know how to make the most of a situation.
 
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