The Dead thread - God sorts 'em out!

[Ralph Baer]

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So, who died?

 

[joecct]

So, who died?

Who died? I guess Horton is sad.

 

[The Rube]

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Brent preferred Gangs of New York because the central character was a Mick.

Nothing wrong with that, just sayin'...

Actually, I like it because DDL. He kinda rules.

 

[Kepler]

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Rico Rodriguez of the Specials.

He of the wonderful trombone here.

 

[Handyman]

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Good lord. Those movies are great entertainment, but they're bubble gum. Scorcese made a decision at a certain point to stop challenging either himself or his audience, and that's fine, but let's not confuse Nicholas Sparks with William Faulkner.

Interesting that you think people should be able to see past their generation and you are doing the exact same thing only as an older person criticizing later pictures. Yo sound like fans of bands that get popular who accuse them of selling out and going formulaic just because new people enjoy them now.

And for what its worth Wes Craven's New Nightmare >>>>> Scream.

 

[Kepler]

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Interesting that you think people should be able to see past their generation and you are doing the exact same thing only as an older person criticizing later pictures.

No, you're mistaking what's going on here. I was admitting (later) that I find gangster movies as a genre, like comic book movies, to be juvenile. It doesn't matter when they're made. It's genre preference.

Which is completely unfair. As S&E were fond of saying, you have to judge most movies within their genre. So, it's not "rom coms suck," but "which rom coms are the best (or worst)."

I'd argue that truly great movies -- the top hundred or so ever made -- defy genre and actually connect with a much deeper human experience. Now I do think older movies were better at that overall, but that's probably because my identification of interesting human attributes is centered somewhere between a hundred and fifty years ago (BTW, before my time). But that's only tendencies, and there can still be great contemporary movies.

I never remember whether it's you or Brent who will never forgive me for hating his favorite movies, but in this case I think your criticism is wrongly-directed. I'm actually not being time-blind here.

 

[The Rube]

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No, you're mistaking what's going on here. I was admitting (later) that I find gangster movies as a genre, like comic book movies, to be juvenile. It doesn't matter when they're made. It's genre preference.

Which is completely unfair. As S&E were fond of saying, you have to judge most movies within their genre. So, it's not "rom coms suck," but "which rom coms are the best (or worst)."

I'd argue that truly great movies -- the top hundred or so ever made -- defy genre and actually connect with a much deeper human experience. Now I do think older movies were better at that overall, but that's probably because my identification of interesting human attributes is centered somewhere between a hundred and fifty years ago (BTW, before my time). But that's only tendencies, and there can still be great contemporary movies.

I never remember whether it's you or Brent who will never forgive me for hating his favorite movies, but in this case I think your criticism is wrongly-directed. I'm actually not being time-blind here.

I probably disagree with you greatly on a couple movies. I tend to be like that with movies I truly find to be outstanding.

 

[Kepler]

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I probably disagree with you greatly on a couple movies. I tend to be like that with movies I truly find to be outstanding.

Me too. But I think Handy's the one who hates me because The Departed sucks.

 

[The Rube]

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Me too. But I think Handy's the one who hates me because The Departed sucks.

In that particular case, I agree with Handy. And yes, saw the original. That one was ok, but too many jumps in time to explain things/develop things to the full extent.

 

[Kepler]

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In that particular case, I agree with Handy. And yes, saw the original. That one was ok, but too many jumps in time to explain things/develop things to the full extent.

It was Handy I think who also went ballistic when I reacted to TDK with derision. I have since come around on it -- I think it's perfectly cromulent. But I also criticized it at a time when it was everybody's favorite blankie, and that didn't go over well.

 

[The Rube]

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It was Handy I think who also went ballistic when I reacted to TDK with derision. I have since come around on it -- I think it's perfectly cromulent. But I also criticized it at a time when it was everybody's favorite blankie, and that didn't go over well.

I thought that movie had the best villian, but not necessarily the best story...even within the trilogy. I thought "Rises" had a better story.

 

[Kepler]

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I thought that movie had the best villian, but not necessarily the best story...even within the trilogy. I thought "Rises" had a better story.

I just had deep political reservations about Nolan's (really, Miller's) treatment of the character, and I don't like Nolan wasting his talent on big budget movies with all their built-in idiocy.

On first viewing the joker didn't impress me but on repeated viewings he really holds up. He's now one of my favorite comic book movie villains.

 

[The Rube]

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I just had deep political reservations about Nolan's (really, Miller's) treatment of the character, and I don't like Nolan wasting his talent on big budget movies with all their built-in idiocy.

On first viewing the joker didn't impress me but on repeated viewings he really holds up. He's now one of my favorite comic book movie villains.

The pencil scene sealed it for me. I literally went wide-eyed and sat up straight in the theater when that happened.

 

[Kepler]

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The pencil scene sealed it for me. I literally went wide-eyed and sat up straight in the theater when that happened.

That was an excellent scene. The money is a good scene. The hospital is a good scene. The ferry scenes were, IMO, crap, as was every moment of Gordon and Rachel and even poor, long-suffering, cash-diving Michael Caine waddling through his inane lines.

 

[The Rube]

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That was an excellent scene. The money is a good scene. The hospital is a good scene. The ferry scenes were, IMO, crap, as was every moment of Gordon and Rachel and even poor, long-suffering, cash-diving Michael Caine waddling through his inane lines.

We all knew Batman was dark...then the Joker crossed that line into WTeFF with the pencil scene. The trilogy, at that point, really stated: this is not the mood you were really expecting...we're going deep.

 

[Handyman]

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Me too. But I think Handy's the one who hates me because The Departed sucks.

No I hate you because you let you hypocrisy shine through and try and hide it with long explanations and big words. (I just say I am a hypocrite and embrace my weird tastes)

I dont care what movies you like there are plenty of movies I hate that others love. For example I hate Reservoir Dogs. It bored me to tears and the opening scene talking about tipping made me want to shoot my friends that made me watch it then myself for giving in. Another I hate that everyone loves No Country For Old Men. Everyone raved about it, everyone said how scary Javier Bardem was...then I watched and was like...huh? I have been yelled at for not liking that movie. (I much prefer There Will Be Blood but even that is long and slow)

Anyways did anyone die?

 

[St. Clown]

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It was Handy I think who also went ballistic when I reacted to TDK with derision. I have since come around on it -- I think it's perfectly cromulent.

Were you just watching the Simpsons episode that embiggens us all? You've been using that word a lot lately and it's not so much a real word.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Kepler is right about one thing - The Departed sucked balls. It was an arrogant, overreaching, hot mess.

 

[Kepler]

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For example I hate Reservoir Dogs. It bored me to tears and the opening scene talking about tipping made me want to shoot my friends that made me watch it then myself for giving in.

The tipping scene is great. RD is OK, though the torture porn middle scene is awful and f-ck you Quinton for bringing back the worst of exploitation movies (as opposed to Grindhouse, which is the best of them).

 

[Kepler]

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Were you just watching the Simpsons episode that embiggens us all? You've been using that word a lot lately and it's not so much a real word.

I had no idea embiggen also came from that scene until I grabbed the YouTube of it. For that matter I thought it came from Futurama.