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The Dead thread - God sorts 'em out!

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state of hockey said:
The pride thing comes from them still existing after all of those defensive battles. Of course the state isn't going to admit that a lot of it is due to "General Winter."
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Knew a co-worker who spent a few months in Russia. They knew he wasn't from around there. Why? "You don't have a generation of the pain and suffering in your look/face." Basically, you are the poorest of the poor, or you are with the government/Red Mafiya/vor v zakone.
 
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state of hockey said:
The pride thing comes from them still existing after all of those defensive battles. Of course the state isn't going to admit that a lot of it is due to "General Winter."
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They still get full credit, because the defenders had to fight General Winter, too.

The stories from Stalingrad are unbelievable. They make other claims of civilian heroism look like nursery schools tales. The Russians may not have much in the way of democratic moxie, but they can take a punch.
 
Kepler said:
They still get full credit, because the defenders had to fight General Winter, too.

The stories from Stalingrad are unbelievable. They make other claims of civilian heroism look like nursery schools tales. The Russians may not have much in the way of democratic moxie, but they can take a punch.
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Leningrad (900 day seige) may have been worse.
 
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Kepler said:
Which one had the famous apartment building defense? That's the most incredible war story I've ever heard.

Edit: It was at Stalingrad. "Pavlov's House."
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As a kid in HS I read 900 days - The Siege of Leningrad by Harrison Salisbury via Readers Digest. You learn to understand why the Russians are paranoid about their borders.

BTW, my daughter in law is from Western Russia sort of near Belarus and the Ukraine. She does not like either country.
 
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joecct said:
As a kid in HS I read 900 days - The Siege of Leningrad by Harrison Salisbury via Readers Digest. You learn to understand why the Russians are paranoid about their borders.

BTW, my daughter in law is from Western Russia sort of near Belarus and the Ukraine. She does not like either country.
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I once got very drunk with a very Polish diplomat. He told me the entire history of Polish / Ruthenian / Ukrainian relations. The executive summary is they all despise each other, they all despise the Russians even more, and they're all impressed by but utterly terrified of the Germans.
 
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Brenthoven said:
The national "pride" of being best country, etc, too. .... The Russian propaganda over the years is truly amazing.
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During the depths of the Cold War, the US and USSR would often have goodwill athletic competitions. A typical headline would then be: USSR finishes second, while USA is next-to-last.
 
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Kind of surprised this one hasn't been posted yet, as the death occurred last Thursday, July 30:

Aug 1 (Reuters) - Jerome Kohlberg Jr., a founder of investment firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co and a pioneer of the leveraged buyout, died on Thursday at his home in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, aged 90.
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Kohlberg quit KKR in 1987 ... and moved away from large-scale leveraged buyouts toward smaller deals reached on friendly terms under a new entity, Kohlberg & Company.
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KKR was one of the first private equity leveraged buyout firms which have reshaped the corporate landscape since its founding in 1976.
 
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joecct said:
Joe won. Adolph lost. Winners write (though in Joe's case, erase) history.
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That and we were Stalin's Ally more or less for most of the War. Him fighting Hitler made the Nazi's fight on 2 fronts and made taking back Europe a heck of a lot easier. Plus there's some argument that it was really the Soviet's joining the Pacific theater and running roughshod over Manchuria in a few days is what lead to Japan's surrender more than the Atomic bombings. Kinda hard to teach kids that Unkle Joe was our friend during the war and then start showing them how much worse Stalin was, like starving Ukraine.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
Him fighting Hitler made the Nazi's fight on 2 fronts and made taking back Europe a heck of a lot easier.
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The Russians beat the Germans. Yay us and those perky Brits and all that, but Ivan beat the Bosch. If Hitler and Stalin had figured out a stable division of spoils in Europe, we would have at best saved Britain. If the US had stayed neutral, the Russians would have marched into Berlin (and then Paris) in 1947 instead of 1945.

It's not a total loss. We beat the Japs.
 
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LPGA co-founder Louise Suggs, 91
Louise Suggs, an LPGA founder and among the best women to ever play with 61 wins and 11 majors, died Friday. She was 91.

The LPGA Tour said she died in a hospice in Sarasota, Florida, of natural causes.

Suggs was perhaps the most influential player in LPGA history. Along with being one of the 13 founders in 1950, she served as LPGA president three times and was inducted into the World Golf Hall of Fame and the LPGA Teach and Professional Hall of Fame.
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Just on the Golf Channel

William Hurley Jr., father of golfer (and USNA grad) Billy Hurley III, died yesterday of a suicide.

Crap.
 
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