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Nate LePage, Siena '13
Re: The Completely Unofficial Pre-Pre-Season Polls - 2010-2011 Edition
What Prof said.
AND... Oswego loses KGT, Musselwhite, and Selleck (among others), whereas Plattsburgh graduated only 3, none were "stars" that will seriously cripple the team. Sure, Lags and Fox, and Whitelaw, et al. are returning. But can you seriously tell me that the numbers of those players weren't seriously padded by the presence of Selleck on the ice?
Goaltending in Plattsburgh started to sort itself out at the end of last season, and should be the last of the Cardinals' worries this season. Oswego is left with a starter named Beckwith who doesn't seem to have much luck in stay game-fit for a whole season. Oswego's core is gone, for the second time since their 07 championship. Plattsburgh's core is still there.
And if you're referring to THIS year's recruiting class, nothing there seems to scream "Oswego's is clearly better". Their each better than the other in different respects, and that reflects the differing coaching philosphies of the 2 schools. Sure, Oswego has a lot more guys with high numbers, but Plattsburgh has a lot of guys who contributed as team players to some successful (and soem not-so-successful) teams this year. None more so than Jensen, who put up .796 pts/game in the NAHL championship team. And please don't give me the "2 DI transfers" argument. Not all DI transfers work out so well. In fact, believe Oswego has a rather poor track record in that department (the most recent of which being Tim "Midol-man" Potter).
If you asked me, I'd say they're about even this year. Which fits in very nicely with the postseason last year, in which both lost hard-fought semifinals. Oswego may have gotten the SUNYAC sweep on Plattsburgh, and I will concede that they were the superior team last year... but neither made it further in the NCAAs than the other.
So, I would like to add on to what Prof said by saying: When two teams are very close, for the preseason things tend to lean towards
(1) the one who's been in that echelon longest,
and
(2) the one who lost less from the previous year.
That, my friend, is why I placed Plattsburgh ahead of Oswego (#3 ahead of #4... what a travesty!
). I'm not going to lie, homerism probably has some influence on this opinion. But I'd be very interested to see your response to my arguments.
I just can't see how people seem to think that plattsburgh is deserving of a higher ranking than Oswego. After we downright shellacked them in all the games at the campus centrelast season, and beat them handily at their own barn, after our evidently superior recruiting class [granted we lost 2 seriously talented players] can anyone explain the rationale??![]()
Longevity. A team's reputation in the early polls is influenced by how long you've been good. If two programs are close, the one with the better long-term reputation gets the advantage.
What Prof said.
AND... Oswego loses KGT, Musselwhite, and Selleck (among others), whereas Plattsburgh graduated only 3, none were "stars" that will seriously cripple the team. Sure, Lags and Fox, and Whitelaw, et al. are returning. But can you seriously tell me that the numbers of those players weren't seriously padded by the presence of Selleck on the ice?
Goaltending in Plattsburgh started to sort itself out at the end of last season, and should be the last of the Cardinals' worries this season. Oswego is left with a starter named Beckwith who doesn't seem to have much luck in stay game-fit for a whole season. Oswego's core is gone, for the second time since their 07 championship. Plattsburgh's core is still there.
And if you're referring to THIS year's recruiting class, nothing there seems to scream "Oswego's is clearly better". Their each better than the other in different respects, and that reflects the differing coaching philosphies of the 2 schools. Sure, Oswego has a lot more guys with high numbers, but Plattsburgh has a lot of guys who contributed as team players to some successful (and soem not-so-successful) teams this year. None more so than Jensen, who put up .796 pts/game in the NAHL championship team. And please don't give me the "2 DI transfers" argument. Not all DI transfers work out so well. In fact, believe Oswego has a rather poor track record in that department (the most recent of which being Tim "Midol-man" Potter).
If you asked me, I'd say they're about even this year. Which fits in very nicely with the postseason last year, in which both lost hard-fought semifinals. Oswego may have gotten the SUNYAC sweep on Plattsburgh, and I will concede that they were the superior team last year... but neither made it further in the NCAAs than the other.
So, I would like to add on to what Prof said by saying: When two teams are very close, for the preseason things tend to lean towards
(1) the one who's been in that echelon longest,
and
(2) the one who lost less from the previous year.
That, my friend, is why I placed Plattsburgh ahead of Oswego (#3 ahead of #4... what a travesty!
