MountieBoyOz
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Re: The "Complain About ESPN" Thread
Or Seve Ballesteros. That's pretty wrong as well.
Or Seve Ballesteros. That's pretty wrong as well.
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The "Complain About ESPN" Thread
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Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
It doesn't hurt to build up a few fringe sports though. If you can build something at a low price they are more willing to work with you (see NHL and NBC).
One advantage NBCSN will have is NBC itself. SNF football is the highest rated program each week and, with MLS, NBC has shown they are willing to use it as a promotion vehicle.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Great article about Dana Jacobson "leaving" First Take and Skip Bayless.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/evmsld
Great article about Dana Jacobson "leaving" First Take and Skip Bayless.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/evmsld
Spartanforlife4
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Re: The "Complain About ESPN" Thread
I don't understand how that show is on anyway. It's been about six straight weeks of nothing but Skip Bayless yelling about Tim Tebow for 15 minutes to Stephen A Smith, 5 minutes of Skip Bayless yelling about Tim Tebow to random NFL guy, plus 2 minutes of some unrelated question like "What's better: Saints running game, or a philly cheese steak?" Ok, that was exagerated, but not too far. I remember one question had something to do with Tony Romo vs. the Packers, which may have been a good question if the two topics were even related (I don't recall exactly what they were, but they had nothing to do with eachother), and even better if the two teams were actually playing against one another.
Who even likes Skip Bayless? I can't say I know a single person that does. Do they keep him there to be the villain, or is there a mass following that I am unaware of that loves him?
I don't understand how that show is on anyway. It's been about six straight weeks of nothing but Skip Bayless yelling about Tim Tebow for 15 minutes to Stephen A Smith, 5 minutes of Skip Bayless yelling about Tim Tebow to random NFL guy, plus 2 minutes of some unrelated question like "What's better: Saints running game, or a philly cheese steak?" Ok, that was exagerated, but not too far. I remember one question had something to do with Tony Romo vs. the Packers, which may have been a good question if the two topics were even related (I don't recall exactly what they were, but they had nothing to do with eachother), and even better if the two teams were actually playing against one another.
Who even likes Skip Bayless? I can't say I know a single person that does. Do they keep him there to be the villain, or is there a mass following that I am unaware of that loves him?
XYZ
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Not sure, but while visiting my family for Christmas my 29yo brother made it clear that he thinks Colin Cowherd and Michele Beadle offer awesome analysis and are "hilarious". I don't see it....at all...but from there it's not much of a leap to understand that people no doubt feel the same way about Bayless and Co.
I used to watch ESPN constantly, but those days are long gone. I'm not a fan of noise...and that's about all its got. Can't even stand Berman and his stale 20yo lousy shtick anymore.
My idea of a good show is the old version of Edge NFL Matchup, but I realize that when it comes to marketing, ratings and money-making...my tastes make me a non-existent entity.
Not sure, but while visiting my family for Christmas my 29yo brother made it clear that he thinks Colin Cowherd and Michele Beadle offer awesome analysis and are "hilarious". I don't see it....at all...but from there it's not much of a leap to understand that people no doubt feel the same way about Bayless and Co.
I used to watch ESPN constantly, but those days are long gone. I'm not a fan of noise...and that's about all its got. Can't even stand Berman and his stale 20yo lousy shtick anymore.
My idea of a good show is the old version of Edge NFL Matchup, but I realize that when it comes to marketing, ratings and money-making...my tastes make me a non-existent entity.
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
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She's alright. Her role on SportsNation seems to be similar to what Jacobson did with Bayless: be the voice of reason when Cowherd goes off the radar.
Of course, that show is so gimmicky and ridiculous that she's not exactly steering it back to anyplace useful, but at least she appears to be from planet Earth. That's more than Bayless, Cowherd and their ilk can claim.
dxmnkd316
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Re: The "Complain About ESPN" Thread
Completely agree. I tried to watch one episode of Sportsnation and I couldn't believe even ESPN would put that kind of TMZ trash on the air. Seriously, I was in disbelief. What an AWFUL concept for a sports show. I don't care what the fans think. I want to see a couple of competent analysts discuss the topic at hand, assuming it's relevant.
I couldn't even make it through the first two segments on Sportsnation.
Completely agree. I tried to watch one episode of Sportsnation and I couldn't believe even ESPN would put that kind of TMZ trash on the air. Seriously, I was in disbelief. What an AWFUL concept for a sports show. I don't care what the fans think. I want to see a couple of competent analysts discuss the topic at hand, assuming it's relevant.
I couldn't even make it through the first two segments on Sportsnation.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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On the plus side: Beadle is good to look at, and her personality makes it a better watch than First Take. Thankfully, I have a job so I'm never at home, bored enough to actually think that watching either show is a good use of my time.
On the plus side: Beadle is good to look at, and her personality makes it a better watch than First Take. Thankfully, I have a job so I'm never at home, bored enough to actually think that watching either show is a good use of my time.
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Listen to Dan Patrick's show sometime if you want the inside scoop on things that happen at the Mothership. He may be a little biased, but there's a lot of truth in what he says. When it comes to shows like "First Take" the producers basically tell the "talent" like Bayless what the topics are going to be and they pick sides to argue - even if they disagree with what they're saying. They think arguing makes better TV. It doesn't matter if two weeks ago Bayless argued the exact opposite of what he's saying now, just as long as there's friction. ESPN gets over $5/subscriber now, so they're getting ratings. I don't think anyone else is even over $4/subscriber. If we ever go to the a la carte thing everyone seems to want, they're going to charge as much or more than HBO ($16.00/month). And people will pay it because we want college football, MLB, NBA and Monday Night Football.
Listen to Dan Patrick's show sometime if you want the inside scoop on things that happen at the Mothership. He may be a little biased, but there's a lot of truth in what he says. When it comes to shows like "First Take" the producers basically tell the "talent" like Bayless what the topics are going to be and they pick sides to argue - even if they disagree with what they're saying. They think arguing makes better TV. It doesn't matter if two weeks ago Bayless argued the exact opposite of what he's saying now, just as long as there's friction. ESPN gets over $5/subscriber now, so they're getting ratings. I don't think anyone else is even over $4/subscriber. If we ever go to the a la carte thing everyone seems to want, they're going to charge as much or more than HBO ($16.00/month). And people will pay it because we want college football, MLB, NBA and Monday Night Football.
dxmnkd316
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Many years ago I was discussing cable prices with my old man. I was for the a la carte transition myself until he explained how cable pricing works. It became readily apparent that a la carte would only cost more for less. That said, cable is becoming almost obscenely expensive.
Many years ago I was discussing cable prices with my old man. I was for the a la carte transition myself until he explained how cable pricing works. It became readily apparent that a la carte would only cost more for less. That said, cable is becoming almost obscenely expensive.
Re: The "Complain About ESPN" Thread
ESPN on Xbox is a great idea. When I move into my own place here in a few weeks Im not even going to get cable. Ive got Hulu, Netflix.
ESPN on Xbox is a great idea. When I move into my own place here in a few weeks Im not even going to get cable. Ive got Hulu, Netflix.
bronconick
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Here's a 3 year old listing of subscriber fee averages.
Here's a 3 year old listing of subscriber fee averages.
WeWantMore
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Re: The "Complain About ESPN" Thread
Even if ESPN did bump up, I still feel like I'd make out well with ala carte. Probably wouldn't pay for any non-sports channel, and just rely on Hulu or torrents.
Even if ESPN did bump up, I still feel like I'd make out well with ala carte. Probably wouldn't pay for any non-sports channel, and just rely on Hulu or torrents.
MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
Re: The "Complain About ESPN" Thread
Pierre LeBrun said on his twitter that an updated tribute segment will include the hockey players. Supposed to run on Dec. 29 and Jan. 2. If this is true, well done hockey fans. We can make some kind of difference.
Pierre LeBrun said on his twitter that an updated tribute segment will include the hockey players. Supposed to run on Dec. 29 and Jan. 2. If this is true, well done hockey fans. We can make some kind of difference.
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Using that data, my cable bill would only be $16.08, but when/if channels go a la carte it will probably be close to $100. I wouldn't be surprised to see Disney do some bundling even on a la carte schemes so that you have to get a bunch of crap channels if you want to get ESPN, Disney Channel etc.
Using that data, my cable bill would only be $16.08, but when/if channels go a la carte it will probably be close to $100. I wouldn't be surprised to see Disney do some bundling even on a la carte schemes so that you have to get a bunch of crap channels if you want to get ESPN, Disney Channel etc.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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For example: You can get ESPN for $16, ESPN2 for $10 and Disney Channel for $10. Or you can get the bundle which includes ESPN, ESPN2, Disney and five pieces of crap for $35. Oh, and if you get the bundle, they throw in ESPN3 for free. So you can go a la carte, it'll just be cheaper to bundle - but you'll get the same crap you get now.
If we go to a true a la carte scheme it will mean the end of 75% of the channels on cable/satellite.
Bet they still do itbundling =/= a la carte
For example: You can get ESPN for $16, ESPN2 for $10 and Disney Channel for $10. Or you can get the bundle which includes ESPN, ESPN2, Disney and five pieces of crap for $35. Oh, and if you get the bundle, they throw in ESPN3 for free. So you can go a la carte, it'll just be cheaper to bundle - but you'll get the same crap you get now.
If we go to a true a la carte scheme it will mean the end of 75% of the channels on cable/satellite.
Re: The "Complain About ESPN" Thread
That dumbass Cowherd almost got canned a couple years back for making tasteless comments after Eddie Guerrero died. He's lucky he's even still around to annoy everyone.
That dumbass Cowherd almost got canned a couple years back for making tasteless comments after Eddie Guerrero died. He's lucky he's even still around to annoy everyone.
dxmnkd316
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Doubtful. Nobody cares about wrestling. Here's what Wikipedia had to say on the subject:
Again, that's barely even controversial. Evidence Cowherd has a big mouth without a filter? Yes. Fireable offense? Hardly. Maybe if he made a crack about an NFL player.
Doubtful. Nobody cares about wrestling. Here's what Wikipedia had to say on the subject:
Again, that's barely even controversial. Evidence Cowherd has a big mouth without a filter? Yes. Fireable offense? Hardly. Maybe if he made a crack about an NFL player.
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