Re: The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
You were missing NMU...thats why it was boring
You were missing NMU...thats why it was boring
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The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
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Re: The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
I think you Yoopers would have recalled your Viking ancestory and tore the Ren Cen a new one at the thought of paying for the overpriced beer there, and then would have crossed the river on a floatilla of Keg rafts to invade, plunder and pillage Ceasers.
I think you Yoopers would have recalled your Viking ancestory and tore the Ren Cen a new one at the thought of paying for the overpriced beer there, and then would have crossed the river on a floatilla of Keg rafts to invade, plunder and pillage Ceasers.
RMUColonials
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Re: The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
My guess is that Niagara would be first in line to apply for a spot. I suspect RMU would also be interested.
Your fear is correct though. I don't see UAH being accepted just to "save" them when a lot of saving still needs to happen within the CCHA. Poaching Mercyhurst and Bobby Mo could prop up the league, add Pittsburgh as a TV market for the CCHA, and give the league their 10 teams.
With the addition of those two, only then does Toledo become the center of the CCHA.
My guess is that Niagara would be first in line to apply for a spot. I suspect RMU would also be interested.
aparch
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*Edit* Nevermind. I see Tuset has moved on from RMU.
Good! I suspect that goaltender coach Joe Tuset would LOVE to have a rivalry against his former University.
*Edit* Nevermind. I see Tuset has moved on from RMU.
uaafanblog
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Re: The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
That won't happen. Only way any team in the conference leaves will be of their own accord.
That won't happen. Only way any team in the conference leaves will be of their own accord.
Squarebanks
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How about UAF and UAA split and form our own conference. We can restart athletics at UAS and Alaska Pacific, then get Mat-Su College, Kenai Peninsula College, UAA's Eagle River campus and UAF's Chukchi campus in Kotzebue to start sponsoring hockey. We can call it the AFUCHA.
(hey, it's as realistic as some of the other ideas we've seen on USCHO lately).
hockeyenthusiast
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Re: The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
You could schedule non-Ivy ECAC teams, who face the same problem every year.
You could schedule non-Ivy ECAC teams, who face the same problem every year.
Re: The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
Yes, with Niagara's interest in a full allotment of scholarships, I think you're right. I was just thinking Mercyhurst because Erie is even closer than Buffalo. Buffalo might also be a good market for the league.
Yes, with Niagara's interest in a full allotment of scholarships, I think you're right. I was just thinking Mercyhurst because Erie is even closer than Buffalo. Buffalo might also be a good market for the league.
bronconick
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In Buffalo's case it would help if the MAC allowed teams not to play baseball, which is a massive waste in the north.
In Buffalo's case it would help if the MAC allowed teams not to play baseball, which is a massive waste in the north.
Squarebanks
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That is already happening to some degree. Simon Fraser in Vancouver already competes in Division II athletics.
Alaska Hockey
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What about RIT? They are currently working on a capital campaign for a newer/bigger arena. They have already established themselves as a top team in the AHA. Certainly it would be a step up in competition, but I don't think RIT would have the commitment to be a good team in the league and go after a championship.
What about RIT? They are currently working on a capital campaign for a newer/bigger arena. They have already established themselves as a top team in the AHA. Certainly it would be a step up in competition, but I don't think RIT would have the commitment to be a good team in the league and go after a championship.
Re: The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
Yeah we can always go back to independent or even back to DII or 3. But I think CCHA will be fine. I would take the NCAA auto bid over stronger competition. although there is the question of money.
Maybe we should ask our governor Parnell to build new rinks (for everyone) instead of flushing it down the oil companies toilet. $1.8billion/yr could build a lot of hockey rinks and money left over to finish the "bridge to no where" and the gas pipeline.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/03/18/business-us-alaska-oil-taxes_8363025.html
Yeah we can always go back to independent or even back to DII or 3. But I think CCHA will be fine. I would take the NCAA auto bid over stronger competition. although there is the question of money.
Maybe we should ask our governor Parnell to build new rinks (for everyone) instead of flushing it down the oil companies toilet. $1.8billion/yr could build a lot of hockey rinks and money left over to finish the "bridge to no where" and the gas pipeline.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/03/18/business-us-alaska-oil-taxes_8363025.html
AnchorsAway
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LSSU is a small school so I can see where the existence questions could theoretically arise, however Lake State has started on a 5 million dollar renovation of it's hockey arena/locker room/weight training facility for the Lakers...In my opinion that's about as substantial of a "we're here to stay statement" as is possible at this point.
I look forward to a smaller league that offers the opportunity for more non-conference games, I'd much rather see the Lakers trade series with the likes of Bemidji, Minnesota State, and other smaller schools than play the big boys all the time, the league as a whole should be more competitive in a top to bottom sense and eliminate some of the "tiers" that have been around in the past.
LSSU is a small school so I can see where the existence questions could theoretically arise, however Lake State has started on a 5 million dollar renovation of it's hockey arena/locker room/weight training facility for the Lakers...In my opinion that's about as substantial of a "we're here to stay statement" as is possible at this point.
I look forward to a smaller league that offers the opportunity for more non-conference games, I'd much rather see the Lakers trade series with the likes of Bemidji, Minnesota State, and other smaller schools than play the big boys all the time, the league as a whole should be more competitive in a top to bottom sense and eliminate some of the "tiers" that have been around in the past.
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Man, I don't know. That's a haul from the UP. And, it's every bit of 8-9 hours drive from Oxford. Great up-and-coming-program, though.
Man, I don't know. That's a haul from the UP. And, it's every bit of 8-9 hours drive from Oxford. Great up-and-coming-program, though.
I Want Shegos
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Re: The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
The media attention surrounding the CCHA always seems so Michigan/Michigan State centered, so I wonder how much of media attention would be gone? Would FSN Detroit be that inclined to show CCHA hockey without them?
As a Ferris fan, my worry would be if Notre Dame or Miami tried to jump ship to somewhere else. I have no idea how feasible any of that is, but you never know. Plus, with Minnesota/Wisconsin out, what would the chances of anyone leaving/joining the WCHA/CCHA be?
Does the 8 team lineup really hold up in terms of credibility? Miami has been a legitimate power for a while, Notre Dame is usually solid, but then after? Ferris, Alaska, and Northern usually find ways to be average, Western was terrible until this year, Bowling Green is bad, and Lake State isn't looking too good either. It could be a rocky slope.
I suppose you could try to convince new schools to join, and hope that some of the other MAC (Toledo? CMU isn't happening anytime soon) or GLIAC (GVSU?) schools decided to jump in. But it doesn't seem likely. I know Alabama-Huntsville wanted the 12th spot this year, I don't know if they would get put in.
These are the questions. It'll be an interesting few years for the CCHA. Especially for the small schools like Ferris. As a Ferris fan, I wonder if this puts the program at all in jeopardy? We'll see.. The worry is that the recruits slowly go away from the conference as a whole, and everyone gets weaker within.
The media attention surrounding the CCHA always seems so Michigan/Michigan State centered, so I wonder how much of media attention would be gone? Would FSN Detroit be that inclined to show CCHA hockey without them?
As a Ferris fan, my worry would be if Notre Dame or Miami tried to jump ship to somewhere else. I have no idea how feasible any of that is, but you never know. Plus, with Minnesota/Wisconsin out, what would the chances of anyone leaving/joining the WCHA/CCHA be?
Does the 8 team lineup really hold up in terms of credibility? Miami has been a legitimate power for a while, Notre Dame is usually solid, but then after? Ferris, Alaska, and Northern usually find ways to be average, Western was terrible until this year, Bowling Green is bad, and Lake State isn't looking too good either. It could be a rocky slope.
I suppose you could try to convince new schools to join, and hope that some of the other MAC (Toledo? CMU isn't happening anytime soon) or GLIAC (GVSU?) schools decided to jump in. But it doesn't seem likely. I know Alabama-Huntsville wanted the 12th spot this year, I don't know if they would get put in.
These are the questions. It'll be an interesting few years for the CCHA. Especially for the small schools like Ferris. As a Ferris fan, I wonder if this puts the program at all in jeopardy? We'll see.. The worry is that the recruits slowly go away from the conference as a whole, and everyone gets weaker within.
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Buck LeVasseur
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Re: The CCHA: Where do we go from here?
It really isn't all that much different than Nebraska-Omaha being in the CCHA. The trip for Lake State to Omaha is 15-16 hours, from Rochester to Marquette you're looking at 12-13. Granted, it's far from an ideal situation, but when you consider that for Miami to get to Northern it's a good 11 hours then it doesn't really look so bad. I'm not saying I'm a proponent of RIT joining the CCHA as I haven't done enough research, I just don't think that the distance is really that big of a factor at this point. When schools are already driving 9-11 hours to get to Marquette, what's an additional 2 or 3 for RIT? That said, I think the CCHA would need to add another school from the Erie/Ontario corridor to help to balance the league out and to give RIT a conference rival. I think Niagara and RIT would make the most sense at face value to join as a pair, but like I said, I need to do some more research on the subject.
It really isn't all that much different than Nebraska-Omaha being in the CCHA. The trip for Lake State to Omaha is 15-16 hours, from Rochester to Marquette you're looking at 12-13. Granted, it's far from an ideal situation, but when you consider that for Miami to get to Northern it's a good 11 hours then it doesn't really look so bad. I'm not saying I'm a proponent of RIT joining the CCHA as I haven't done enough research, I just don't think that the distance is really that big of a factor at this point. When schools are already driving 9-11 hours to get to Marquette, what's an additional 2 or 3 for RIT? That said, I think the CCHA would need to add another school from the Erie/Ontario corridor to help to balance the league out and to give RIT a conference rival. I think Niagara and RIT would make the most sense at face value to join as a pair, but like I said, I need to do some more research on the subject.