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The Barr Has Been Raised at UMaine

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Fishman'81 said:
Hell, 6 years isn't unreasonable, considering the mess that this program has become.

I still get the alumni newsletter, but what again is the timetable for the new sports complex? That won't hurt recruiting!
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Have not seen a timetable.
There is something like 20 or 30 mil matching funds to go after to meet the project total.
Heck with a 2x4 now 8$ vs 2$ 18 months ago they may have to raise more!!
 
NorthMike said:
Have not seen a timetable.
There is something like 20 or 30 mil matching funds to go after to meet the project total.
Heck with a 2x4 now 8$ vs 2$ 18 months ago they may have to raise more!!
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I thought the fields were first and the Alfond upgrades were towards the end.

It will be interesting to see what he does with assistants. I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes some time to make sure he gets it right. I do hope he finds a spot for Shawn’s youngest son.
 
Drew S. said:
I thought the fields were first and the Alfond upgrades were towards the end.

It will be interesting to see what he does with assistants. I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes some time to make sure he gets it right. I do hope he finds a spot for Shawn’s youngest son.
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Don't see that happening(Tyler Walsh).
 
Drew S. said:
It will be interesting to see what he does with assistants. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes some time to make sure he gets it right. I do hope he finds a spot for Shawn's youngest son.
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And the beat goes on, and on and on and on ...

So, now that UMaine has finally broken through their "Three Degrees of Walshy" mindset by hiring an outsider with excellent credentials, you not only want him to retain his chief competitor for the HC job (Guite) and likely also Michaud, but now you also want to saddle him with Walshy's kid??

Do you want UMaine to be a competitive hockey program, or a feel-good patronage factory?!?
 
Chuck Murray said:
And the beat goes on, and on and on and on ...

So, now that UMaine has finally broken through their "Three Degrees of Walshy" mindset by hiring an outsider with excellent credentials, you not only want him to retain his chief competitor for the HC job (Guite) and likely also Michaud, but now you also want to saddle him with Walshy's kid??

Do you want UMaine to be a competitive hockey program, or a feel-good patronage factory?!?
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I want the best people for the job, simple as. If he can find folks who are better that would be a huge win. If he can’t I don’t want change for the sake of change.

I doubt Sean is being paid anything for his services.
 
Drew S. said:
I thought the fields were first and the Alfond upgrades were towards the end.
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Yes I think this was the plan. Its unclear to me if any of it is fully funded or they can spend the 90 mil and then raise the 20 or 30 to fund the later projects. The later project is Alfond I thought too.
 
Drew S. said:
I want the best people for the job, simple as. If he can find folks who are better that would be a huge win. If he can't I don't want change for the sake of change.
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Even if that change involves moving away from a coaching regime that hasn't won in a long time?

With all due respect to Guite & Co., I doubt Barr struggles to find better assistants in his own circle.
 
BassAle said:
no, you want feel-good picks that don't hurt the feelings of current assistants, and also to hire a Walsh

Barr should hire whomever he wants, even if they have no ties to the program.
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He absolutely should and I’ve said as much. It’s easier said than done attracting top assistants to Orono though. And it needs to be the right fit if they’re going to be successful. He’s lucky that he is such a strong recruiter he probably doesn’t need quite as much help in that area as some coaches do.

Its encouraging that he’s waited a week to make a decision and I hope he takes as much time as he needs. This is obviously something he has never done before and it’s inportant he gets it right.
 
Drew S. said:
He absolutely should and I’ve said as much. It’s easier said than done attracting top assistants to Orono though. And it needs to be the right fit if they’re going to be successful. He’s lucky that he is such a strong recruiter he probably doesn’t need quite as much help in that area as some coaches do.

Its encouraging that he’s waited a week to make a decision and I hope he takes as much time as he needs. This is obviously something he has never done before and it’s inportant he gets it right.
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Respectfully, people said the same sh-- about bringing a top coaching candidate to Orono and they just brought in who was considered to be one of the top assistants & best HC candidates in the nation. I have full faith that Barr has developed connections under the tutelage of some of college hockey's best minds. I'm personally of the opinion that the only current Assistant that will stay is Alfie - and that's a big if. Guite, was just the interim HC & interviewed for the same position, so while he might be a solid assistant there's a conflict of interest and ultimately Barr maintains the right to bring in whoever the hell he wants.

I get the sentimental UMaine connection, but let's get the best people here for the job and win.
 
Ma#1ne Hky said:
FYI his name IS Tyler and he is presently working as a assistant coach for the Colby Mules under Blaise McDonald.......not at Maine in any role.
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Sean Walsh is/was Video Coordinator and Statistical Analyst for UMaine Hockey.

https://goblackbears.com/sports/mens...sean-walsh/514

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I doubt this is a role that Barr is going to care too much about replacing with one of his "own", so I suspect Sean will be able to stay on if he wants.
 
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Blackbear96 said:
Respectfully, people said the same sh-- about bringing a top coaching candidate to Orono and they just brought in who was considered to be one of the top assistants & best HC candidates in the nation. I have full faith that Barr has developed connections under the tutelage of some of college hockey's best minds. I'm personally of the opinion that the only current Assistant that will stay is Alfie - and that's a big if. Guite, was just the interim HC & interviewed for the same position, so while he might be a solid assistant there's a conflict of interest and ultimately Barr maintains the right to bring in whoever the hell he wants.

I get the sentimental UMaine connection, but let's get the best people here for the job and win.
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I was very confident Barr would accept the job and was obviously right(I said a couple weeks before he was hired that the odds were 90%). $230K with a lot of perks is completely different than $80K and limited to no perks. Barr is an awesome fit for Maine and it made all the sense in the world for him to come here. Is there an assistant out there in the same boat? Maybe there is but I'm not sure exactly who it is.
 
Drew S. said:
I was very confident Barr would accept the job and was obviously right(I said a couple weeks before he was hired that the odds were 90%). $230K with a lot of perks is completely different than $80K and limited to no perks. Barr is an awesome fit for Maine and it made all the sense in the world for him to come here. Is there an assistant out there in the same boat? Maybe there is but I'm not sure exactly who it is.
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just looked up Guite's salary. It was $95K in 2019. Professional salaried staff at UMaine get a pretty good retirement, vacation, and healthcare package (I used to work for UMaine as a salaried employee with the same union negotiated benefits as the professors). Associate Head Coach would likely be a step up for lots of assistants out there, not only in terms of career progression but also pay. It's NOT competitive for someone that's at the associate head coach level at a top school, but for an up and coming assistant (especially a volunteer assistant), sure.
 
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BassAle said:
just looked up Guite's salary. It was $95K in 2019. Professional salaried staff at UMaine get a pretty good retirement, vacation, and healthcare package (I used to work for UMaine as a salaried employee with the same union negotiated benefits as the professors). Associate Head Coach would likely be a step up for lots of assistants out there.
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I think Barr probably has more options than we’re assuming as assistants. His career is a great example of making “career moves”. I suspect he has a ton of assistants and people he’s crossed paths with lining up for the job.

I think we’ll see him bring in 2 young assistants, early to mid thirties. I think his pitch to them is simple, “come here, help me build this for the next 2 to 3 years, if you want to leave after that, I understand.” The same way he has at the programs he’s been involved with.

He’s a great recruiter of players, I assume that will translate to recruiting talented coaches.
 
BlackBearFan19 said:
I think Barr probably has more options than we’re assuming as assistants. His career is a great example of making “career moves”. I suspect he has a ton of assistants and people he’s crossed paths with lining up for the job.

I think we’ll see him bring in 2 young assistants, early to mid thirties. I think his pitch to them is simple, “come here, help me build this for the next 2 to 3 years, if you want to leave after that, I understand.” The same way he has at the programs he’s been involved with.

He’s a great recruiter of players, I assume that will translate to recruiting talented coaches.
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yeah, we're probably not going to get a really experienced associate head coach, or assistant coach that's making well above 100K somewhere else, but he should be able to land a young up and coming assistant for 100K in Orono.
 
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