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The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!

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Rover said:
I wonder if Bob has taken down his Mission Accomplished poster yet of Bush II on that aircraft carrier? Sure seems like he longs for the days of GWB's foreign policy.
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Remember? You never returned it to me after I agreed to let you secretly have it for a few days to marvel over.
 
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Romney would have US Troops on the ground in Libya and Syria right now. That's my point. If Iran is stupid enough to continue down the wrong path we will end them.
 
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Rover said:
While these things go in cycles, what has to be disturbing for the GOP is that the good strategists are all gone. Atwater is dead, Ed Rollins is an old man and Rove would rather play with his SuperPAC.
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That goes in cycles, too. The sharps who lead a party in its hour of triumph are roosters who think they made the sun rise. If you've ever been on a farm, here's the thing about roosters -- they're annoying because they keep on crowing long after sunrise. They're still Announcing Their Presence with Authority long after they're needed, and it's very difficult to restrain the instinct of throttling them.

Being a decorated veteran of the political wars is a sweet gig -- cocktail parties, talking engagements, book deals, and an endless conga line of starry-eyed Tracy Flicks (or for Republicans, rent boys presumably) just off the turnip truck. There is probably not one ex-advisor on either network or cable TV who knows anything about the future of politics, but because they all talk to each other they live forever in a self-reinforced world where the Southern Strategy and It's the Economy Stupid still matter. They are reliving their glory days.

Because of where we are in the cycle, right now there is probably no Republican over the age of 29 who will make a meaningful future contribution to electoral political strategy. The new sharps are already happily incubating away, but we won't know anything about them until their time comes in another decade or so.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Romney would have US Troops on the ground in Libya and Syria right now. That's my point. If Iran is stupid enough to continue down the wrong path we will end them.
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Warmonger!
 
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Rover said:
Ummm....so what? Do you really think Iran is going to launch missles against US warships? How would they stop the USAF bombers from pulverizing their country back into the Stone Age?
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Warmonger!
 
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FreshFish said:
Um, Iraq did invade Kuwait in 1991, no? or was that omitted from your history book? if an ally is attacked and calls upon us for help, are you saying we turn our backs on them?
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And the second time we fought them? They didnt attack anyone we just invaded them cause Sonnyboy wanted to finish the job Daddy couldnt. Pretend all you want that there was a justification or that they "attacked' us...they didnt.

And just because Dem Presidents were involved in Vietnam doesnt make Scooby's point any less correct. Your straw man sucks almost as much as your Disney references did.
 
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Rover said:
Ummm....so what? Do you really think Iran is going to launch missles against US warships? How would they stop the USAF bombers from pulverizing their country back into the Stone Age?
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Dont you get it, an attack is imminent! We need to get them before they get us!!
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
This could go in a few threads but probably belongs here. Obama knocked it out of the park at the UN today. Great speech. Should end Romney's lunacy of making waves in foreign policy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/w...y-text.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&smid=FB-nytimes
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I enjoyed this statement the most.

In hard economic times, countries must be tempted -- may be tempted to rally the people around perceived enemies, at home and abroad, rather than focusing on the painstaking work of reform.
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Kepler said:
It's a ruse to catch them off guard. Moldova will never know what hit them.
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Worked in Grenada ;)

I say we just go Wag the Dog on the bit and declare war on Albania! We can use the song from Cheers as a rallying cry:

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Then we get Jim Belushi on the case!

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Kepler said:
That goes in cycles, too. The sharps who lead a party in its hour of triumph are roosters who think they made the sun rise. If you've ever been on a farm, here's the thing about roosters -- they're annoying because they keep on crowing long after sunrise. They're still Announcing Their Presence with Authority long after they're needed, and it's very difficult to restrain the instinct of throttling them.

Being a decorated veteran of the political wars is a sweet gig -- cocktail parties, talking engagements, book deals, and an endless conga line of starry-eyed Tracy Flicks (or for Republicans, rent boys presumably) just off the turnip truck. There is probably not one ex-advisor on either network or cable TV who knows anything about the future of politics, but because they all talk to each other they live forever in a self-reinforced world where the Southern Strategy and It's the Economy Stupid still matter. They are reliving their glory days.

Because of where we are in the cycle, right now there is probably no Republican over the age of 29 who will make a meaningful future contribution to electoral political strategy. The new sharps are already happily incubating away, but we won't know anything about them until their time comes in another decade or so.
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Know everything about rent boys, do you?
 
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Rover said:
There's no crying in politics Opie, so cut it out. Nobody was on Bush's case for taking out AQ operatives. The problem was torture (which even old geezer McCain was against as well as Ashcroft) and a foolhardy war launched on false premises.

BTW, you're probably used to doing this, but you knucks' really show your age by blathering Carter Carter Carter every 5 seconds. You do realize half the electorate has no idea what you're talking about as to remember Carter's Presidency in any detail you'd be approaching 50 by now. But, if you want to live in the past, as in over three decades ago, be my guest. I'm guessing you still crank up Barry Manilow music and watch old I Love Lucy reruns too.
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Evasive, as usual.
 
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The president of the United States goes to the UN to make a speech. Does he offer a full throated defense of our First Amendment? He does not. Does he pander to Islamists and their governments? You betcha. In "7 Days in May," General James Mattoon Scott had it about right, IMO, when he described the president as: "A criminally weak sister."*

Barack Carter Chamberlain Obama

*And no, ladies of the chorale, I'm not suggesting General Scott's solution to the "problem" as he saw it.
 
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