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The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

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Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

And you've saved the team the problem of even playing next season. Awesome.

I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong, and to eat crow. But we have a year or so to wait on that.
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

and for some Howard/Doyle, but it was really Howard!

Didn't see Doyle play much, did you? The guy was great and would have started must every game if it wasn't for Jimmy. I'd take him over any other Goalie(not Jimmy) Maine has had since Tim was coach.
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

It shouldn't be, and it is not with this fan.

hey, btb91

How about getting a nice slow goalie_name-Sieve chant going for an entire period next season? Someone has to breath a little more life into the Maine~iaks. It seems like most of the time they just sand there and make no attempt to intimidate the opposing players or goalie.
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

You and I are going to have to agree to disagree, since I can say the same about this post. But that is the beauty of free speech isn't it.

What I am saying is that the warning signs were there on Darling based on the previous suspensions, IF Darling is suspended now for the same reasons as before, that should have been a warning sign to our staff. That is something I don't know, but I am left wondering.

I must remember things very differently, since I would never look to devalue the contributions of King or Doyle in their respective tandems. Certainly there were times when one goalie in a tandem is hotter than the other, but their contributions were solid, and a part of the Maine Hockey tradition. We have had times when we have had only one goalie, but so much of our history is tied to a goalie tandem, and that is a very good measure in the event of injury, etc.

And for the record, I had a lot of faith in Whitehead for a while. He deserved a fair chance in the most difficult of circumstances. I have just personally come to the conclusion that his leadership is not likely to advance our program back to being a consistent winner and contender.

No problem with anything said. And believe me I had no intention of devaluing King or Doyle. King took the job from Loring who had been solid, and then watched as DelGuidice was the hot goalie for parts of his junior and senior year. Doyle was great and steady when called upon, but it was never a true tandem. More like 1 and 1A with Howard getting the bulk of minutes.

And like you I have no idea what the situation was at the end of last year. Maybe Sirman was brought in more as protection against Darling than as a more reliable back-up than Wilson, which was the perception of many of us. And Darling for most of the year was a model citizen until the end of the year and once again we were forced to spend scholarship dollars on a 3rd goalie.

The one ting we should all agree on is there should be no excuses next year. As we all know I have supported Coach Whitehead throughout, but I will not tolerate excuses if we are middle of the pack next year, or miss the NCAA's. This team demonstrated they have the talent, the coaches are responsible for the goaltending situation and will have to address it one way or another.

Rather spend my offseason being optimistic and worrying about 5 foot putts instead of lamenting about the goaltending situation!:rolleyes:
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

hey, btb91

How about getting a nice slow goalie_name-Sieve chant going for an entire period next season? Someone has to breath a little more life into the Maine~iaks. It seems like most of the time they just sand there and make no attempt to intimidate the opposing players or goalie.

I definitely prefer the slow chants, but catching ones breath gets in the way, plus someone starts to speed it up at some point.

Then there is the band. They do an awesome job, but wish that sometimes Chris would let a chant go on.

I gotta admit, the more we ride the opposing goalie...the beter.:D
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

Bob, Howard/Doyle were a true tandem.

2003-2004

games played / min / gaa / sv%

Howard 22 / 1364 / 1.1878/ .956
Doyle 23 / 1324 / 1.8133 / .923

2002-2003

Howard 21 / 1151 / 2.4507/ .916
Doyle 21 / 1180 / 2.1357/ .915


Granted Howard developed into the more accomplished goalie, his 2003-2004 stats are just ridiculous. Doyle was much more than a back up, his stats were quite impressive.
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

Bob, Howard/Doyle were a true tandem.

2003-2004

games played / min / gaa / sv%

Howard 22 / 1364 / 1.1878/ .956
Doyle 23 / 1324 / 1.8133 / .923

2002-2003

Howard 21 / 1151 / 2.4507/ .916
Doyle 21 / 1180 / 2.1357/ .915


Granted Howard developed into the more accomplished goalie, his 2003-2004 stats are just ridiculous. Doyle was much more than a back up, his stats were quite impressive.

Well the stats don't lie. I guess I am simply thinking about Hockey East and NCAA games. Howard started those games, the two Hockey East and NCAA games in the Garden in '04. Doyle did get in to and was responsible for a big win in a quarter-final in Albany after Howard allowed 4 to Harvard.

If I look close at the stats, in some cases Doyle played a few in a row when Jimmy was with National team. And don't get me wrong I never said Frank was a back-up. Simply stated that unlike other tandems where you could argue one was better than the other on either side, 90% of us knew Howard was the better of the two. Heck his freshman year I was leaving a game at BC and commented to two former players (Mike Golden and Bruce Major) that Howard had the potential to be the best goalie we ever had when all was said and done, their response was "we think he already is"!

That was simply my point with Howard, taking nothing away from Frank and the great career he had at Maine.
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

The one ting we should all agree on is there should be no excuses next year. As we all know I have supported Coach Whitehead throughout, but I will not tolerate excuses if we are middle of the pack next year, or miss the NCAA's. This team demonstrated they have the talent, the coaches are responsible for the goaltending situation and will have to address it one way or another.

I completely agree with you. Hopefully the goaltender situation will be taken care of Maine is very successful next season. If, for whatever reason they are not, I would be interested in hearing anyone's guesses as to the potential excuses Timmay may use.
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

Didn't BC miss the NCAA's last year? Or am I 'misremembering'?

I think you are right. I think York complained about the team all season and that the players still content with winning it all the season before and didn't play up to their potential.

I think just about any other team's fans would kill to have the success BC has had over the last 10 years. Good teams miss the play offs once in a while. Missing three years in a row, with two 13 win seasons - that is another story! I think Timmay will "redeem" himself and the team will make the NCAAs. If not, I think most fans will be on the fire Timmay bandwagon.
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

Bob, Howard/Doyle were a true tandem.

2003-2004

games played / min / gaa / sv%

Howard 22 / 1364 / 1.1878/ .956
Doyle 23 / 1324 / 1.8133 / .923

2002-2003

Howard 21 / 1151 / 2.4507/ .916
Doyle 21 / 1180 / 2.1357/ .915


Granted Howard developed into the more accomplished goalie, his 2003-2004 stats are just ridiculous. Doyle was much more than a back up, his stats were quite impressive.

gosh, I wish people would remember to post Maine's offensive numbers with Jimmy in net and with Frankie in net.
Maine scored about 5 gpg with Frankie and about 2.2 with Jimmy... something like that.

Maine played 5-man D for Jimmy and the whole "goal" was to get Jimmy great numbers.

What was Maine's record in Jimmy games compared to Frankie games?
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

gosh, I wish people would remember to post Maine's offensive numbers with Jimmy in net and with Frankie in net.
Maine scored about 5 gpg with Frankie and about 2.2 with Jimmy... something like that.

Maine played 5-man D for Jimmy and the whole "goal" was to get Jimmy great numbers.

What was Maine's record in Jimmy games compared to Frankie games?


I don't know the split, but I would wager it is fairly close in regards to won/loss. Instead of pulling numbers out of thin air, why don't you actually find and post the numbers for the goals per game scored by Maine for each goalie?

Edit: Just to show you don't know what you are talking about 1/2 of the time.

Frank's record for the 2002-2003 and 2003-2004 season was 29-8-5; Howard's was 28-10-3

I just ran numbers for the 2002-2003 season for goals scored by Maine for each goalie. These numbers do not include the exhibition game against NB nor the 3 games in which both goalies played.

Maine scored 3.16 goals a game for Howard and 3.88 for Doyle.
 
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Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

I think just about any other team's fans would kill to have the success BC has had over the last 10 years..

Frozen Four 7 out of the last 10 years, I'd think they like it.
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

Didn't BC miss the NCAA's last year? Or am I 'misremembering'?

Yeah......and didn't they recently win a National Championship? But BU also missed the playoffs this season.......oh yeah, they won an NC last year. :cool:
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

Finally I hate excuses and that has been one of the things that has disappointed me, once players are gone they are gone and I hope we don't see any more excuses from the coach, or anyone else affiliated with the program. The comments in the past on players leaving is a sign of weakness and they have been quoted 1000's of times on this board rightly so. Next year there are no excuses, and I hope that is the attitude in the locker room!

I'm using that as my new sig! :p ;)
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

The college hockey landscape has changed as others have pointed out, but that should not be a reason for lowering one's expectations. Comparisons to Walsh may not be fair, but they are inevitable. Shawn never made excuses that I can recall regarding the location in Orono, Maine. On the contrary, he sought out players who welcomed the challenge, and embraced the community. In exchange, he never lowered the expectations of his program, his players, or himself.

We need to not lower our expectations of our head hockey coach. If we do, we get what we deserve. If we keep our standards high for our coach and our program, we will have a team that all of us will be proud of.

I do want to emphasize that I think we have a great core group of players, that with the right coaching, mentoring, and leadership, is capable of doing great things. They deserve a coach that will demand great things of them, and one who will do everything in his power to develop them into the best possible players they can be.

AMEN!!!!

If RIT can do it........then Maine certainly can!
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

The one ting we should all agree on is there should be no excuses next year. As we all know I have supported Coach Whitehead throughout, but I will not tolerate excuses if we are middle of the pack next year, or miss the NCAA's. This team demonstrated they have the talent, the coaches are responsible for the goaltending situation and will have to address it one way or another.

Agreed! We were all a lot younger before the excuses started.........:cool:
 
Re: The 3rd official 09-10 Maine season thread: Bubble-icious

I completely agree with you. Hopefully the goaltender situation will be taken care of Maine is very successful next season. If, for whatever reason they are not, I would be interested in hearing anyone's guesses as to the potential excuses Timmay may use.

TBD.
 
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