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The 2nd official 09-10 Maine season thread

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Runsub5 said:
Speaking of Will O'Neill, he scored a beautiful goal last night (4th in the game), on an assist from Nyquist. Campbell (goal tender), never saw it. Anyone who says this team isn't better or doesn't have more confidence hasn't been paying attention, in my opinion.
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O'Neill quickly evolved into my new favorite D-man since he arrived on the scene last year, so I'm not trying to take anything away from him....but from my angle it looked like he shot it into traffic and it trickled in off of one of USA's own players???.... :confused: PRYOR had a sick goal off a Nyquist assist...is that what you're thinking of?
 
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Maine did not move in the INCH Power Rankings, remaining at 19.

Not that they're worth anything...but that tells me they didn't put a lot of stock into the result just because it said the word "Exhibition" next to them....which is too bad.

Maine was the first and only non-professional team to beat the #1 team in Canadian college hockey, period, this year and the first and only team to shut out the NTDP this season (not only that, but they've beat more than a couple good D-1 teams)

--all the while, doing so without their starting goalie, and every-game starters like Dee and Mangene.


That's not worth any credit?! :eek:
 
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GoMaine24 said:
O'Neill quickly evolved into my new favorite D-man since he arrived on the scene last year, so I'm not trying to take anything away from him....but from my angle it looked like he shot it into traffic and it trickled in off of one of USA's own players???.... :confused: PRYOR had a sick goal off a Nyquist assist...is that what you're thinking of?
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Yes, that's the one, and there was a lot of traffic in front of Campbell. According to the BDN today, it went in off a defensive player's skate. Nyquist brought the puck into the offensive zone and passed to O'Neill who made the shot from the left side while Campbell was looking straight ahead. From my view I didn't see it go off a skate.:o I didn't see the Pryor goal.
 
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Sorry to intrude but ...
GoMaine24 said:
Maine did not move in the INCH Power Rankings, remaining at 19.

Not that they're worth anything...but that tells me they didn't put a lot of stock into the result just because it said the word "Exhibition" next to them....which is too bad.

Maine was the first and only non-professional team to beat the #1 team in Canadian college hockey, period, this year and the first and only team to shut out the NTDP this season (not only that, but they've beat more than a couple good D-1 teams)

--all the while, doing so without their starting goalie, and every-game starters like Dee and Mangene.


That's not worth any credit?! :eek:
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Wait ... are you really saying that Maine's ranking should have gone up because they shut out a team in an exhibition game. Wow.
 
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Gusforhobey said:
I think a reasonable goal would be to get a top 4 seed for a playoff series at the Alfond. I would also say a trip to the NCAA tournament is not an unreachable goal.
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Yes it is unless the make it to the Gahdin and win it. The rest of the schedule is brutal in my opinion. UHN is on fire. So we hope for a split at home. Pray for a split this weekend at VT, a split at the Mack will be all that can be expected with how they play at their barn. A split at BU (maybe) as they are playing better in the 2nd half (shocker!!:rolleyes: ) Then UML and Umass. Split split. That's being a glass half full guy. That = 10 more HE points which may get them 4th. In reality they could get swept by any or all of the remaining teams.
Wally was right, I gave them the kiss of death a couple of weeks ago with my STUPID 2nd place prediction. :o This is all my fault. I'll carry the blame.:(
 
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UMLFan said:
Sorry to intrude but ...

Wait ... are you really saying that Maine's ranking should have gone up because they shut out a team in an exhibition game. Wow.
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Let's see.....

New Brunswick is 21-0-0 in their league play, as well as previously 3-0-0 against Hockey East teams (UMass, Vermont, and Providence) and we handed them their only loss barring the Portland Pirates (who gave up 2 goals to our 1 btw)

And this years U-18 club has played more than a half dozen Top 20 D-1 teams, and not only had they yet to be shut out, but they even beat a team the caliber of Cornell....

So I guess the answer to your question is, yea... :p

In related news, Maine is up 1 spot to #19 in the actual poll.
 
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GoMaine24 said:
Let's see.....

New Brunswick is 21-0-0 in their league play, as well as previously 3-0-0 against Hockey East teams (UMass, Vermont, and Providence) and we handed them their only loss barring the Portland Pirates (who gave up 2 goals to our 1 btw)

And this years U-18 club has played more than a half dozen Top 20 D-1 teams, and not only had they yet to be shut out, but they even beat a team the caliber of Cornell....

So I guess the answer to your question is, yea... :p

In related news, Maine is up 1 spot to #19 in the actual poll.
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getting spanked by PC should drop you, and then losing the next night. They look at conference back to back losses, not exhibitions

No, an exhibition win over a borderline club team is a joke
 
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Hokydad said:
getting spanked by PC should drop you, and then losing the next night. They look at conference back to back losses, not exhibitions

No, an exhibition win over a borderline club team is a joke
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I don't think the voters saw the PC lose as a "spanking" we lost 3-2, we did score the last two goals in the final minute but that doesn't matter. A borderline club? I would say both exhibition wins were good quality wins, especially UNB.
 
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Hokydad said:
getting spanked by PC should drop you, and then losing the next night. They look at conference back to back losses, not exhibitions

No, an exhibition win over a borderline club team is a joke
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Get your facts straight. Maine did not lose the next night after the Providence game, as a matter of fact they did not even play the next night. Yes they did lose to Prov, but I would hardly call it a spanking. A hot goalie can steal a win on any given night.

Exhibition wins are worthless, agreed. Neither exhibition team was a borderline team though.

Nice rep, when you question whether someone can even spell, you ought to first worry about using capital letters where they should be and actually using puncuation.
 
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Hokydad said:
getting spanked by PC should drop you, and then losing the next night. They look at conference back to back losses, not exhibitions
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Umm, last i checked, those two conference losses were on Jan. 15,16, so they would have reflected on last week's poll (Jan. 18), which still had us at 20.
 
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ck1969 said:
The rest of the schedule is brutal in my opinion. UHN is on fire. So we hope for a split at home. Pray for a split this weekend at VT, a split at the Mack will be all that can be expected with how they play at their barn. A split at BU (maybe) as they are playing better in the 2nd half (shocker!!:rolleyes: ) Then UML and Umass. Split split. That's being a glass half full guy. That = 10 more HE points which may get them 4th. In reality they could get swept by any or all of the remaining teams.
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I would agree with the upcoming week splits being OK, except for both UHN and Mass-Amherst.

In pairwise terms, when a team is ahead of you in PWR, you need to have a 2-1 record against that team over three games to progress forward. The "every win helps" scenario is a fallacy; if there is a 1-2 series record, the two losses count against you more than the one "good" win. Maine already has losses to UHN and Mass-Amherst, but have beaten Vermont and Mass-Lowell ahead of us in PWR.

Goal has to be to cobble together some good wins against the teams ahead of Maine in PWR to creep up to somewhere in the 12-14 spot in PWR and hope for some teams to collapse. That would set Maine up to squeak in with an at-large berth, albeit to be slated as a likely 4th seed at a Regional, at which point I have visions of the last BC game dancing in my head.
 
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GoMaine24 said:
Let's see.....

New Brunswick is 21-0-0 in their league play, as well as previously 3-0-0 against Hockey East teams (UMass, Vermont, and Providence) and we handed them their only loss barring the Portland Pirates (who gave up 2 goals to our 1 btw)

And this years U-18 club has played more than a half dozen Top 20 D-1 teams, and not only had they yet to be shut out, but they even beat a team the caliber of Cornell....

So I guess the answer to your question is, yea... :p

In related news, Maine is up 1 spot to #19 in the actual poll.
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If they had beaten BC and PC and lost both exhibition games Maine would have moved up in the polls. Winning exhibitions should and does mean nothing. They were full speed practices and thats it
 
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walrus said:
If they had beaten BC and PC and lost both exhibition games Maine would have moved up in the polls. Winning exhibitions should and does mean nothing. They were full speed practices and thats it
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See, I understand why everyone takes that position....but really....why? Did it not reflect our ability?

What if we squared off with Wisconsin and Denver next week, but because it was some special tournament where Canadian schools were invited to participate, all the games were called "Exhibition"....but each team played all their starters, partook in a normal gameplan, and played it as a regular game and Maine won both of those games by 3 or 4 goals. Would pollsters just say "eh....didn't count on their Win/Loss so we shouldn't reflect it as saying Maines ability is high"??

What if we did as New Brunswick did and played an exhibition against the fully loaded Pirates and BEAT THEM?! (OK, I know I'm making stretches now, but I'm just saying...how far are you willing to take that argument) What about when the 1980 Olympic team had their exhibition with the Soviets...what if they won? Would people just shrug that off because it was a 'meaningless game' and say we still don't stand a prayer next time around?

I know its a stretch but if I were a pollster, I'd be asking myself what teams are showing me they're the strongest out there, period....so assuming a team started their normal roster and approached it as any other game....if the opponent is formidable, i don't care if there is an "Ex" next to schedule date or not....its a reflection on the teams progress and ability and its going to play a role in my rankings.
 
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walrus said:
If they had beaten BC and PC and lost both exhibition games Maine would have moved up in the polls. Winning exhibitions should and does mean nothing. They were full speed practices and thats it
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Seeing as polls mean nothing either, I don't see why a good exhibition win shouldn't have some effect on them. It is still a decent gauge of how good a team is, which is all that the polls are trying to say.


Very important weekend against vermont coming up. Maine beat them up at the alfond, lets hope for a repeat. As it is, two wins puts Maine in 2nd place. Two losses, and Maine is in 6th.
 
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MaineMan said:
Seeing as polls mean nothing either, I don't see why a good exhibition win shouldn't have some effect on them. It is still a decent gauge of how good a team is, which is all that the polls are trying to say.
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So the guys voting now have to pay attention to UNB? How do they know how good or bad UNB is. I'm old enough to rememeber Maine crushing any and all Canadian college teams we ever played, its only recently that they actually gave Maine a hard time.

As far as the USNDT goes, the Saad kid was 17, you think he could muscle his way inside on Tanner House?

Again if you can't beat the worst team in HE, you don't deserve anything after an exhibition game
 
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True Blue Fan said:
Get your facts straight. Maine did not lose the next night after the Providence game, as a matter of fact they did not even play the next night. Yes they did lose to Prov, but I would hardly call it a spanking. A hot goalie can steal a win on any given night.

Exhibition wins are worthless, agreed. Neither exhibition team was a borderline team though.

Nice rep, when you question whether someone can even spell, you ought to first worry about using capital letters where they should be and actually using puncuation.
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sorry, they got spanked 6-1 the night before. Ignore the conference games and focus on exhibitions vs D3 type teams.

Please.
 
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