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The 2024 GQP Thread: Because Deutsche Gopher Fan ENDED the Last One
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
Active member
wait that's real?
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Today in MAGA Accusations are Confessions:
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Slap Shot
I got nothing
You are, I’m just less obvious about itAnd they call me a monster...
Holy shit.
In case anyone needs a reminder of just how fucked up the right wing cultists are:
We caught up with my wife’s MAGA childhood friends (high school sweethearts) over Christmas. By any objective measure, they are ridiculously successful - she’s a stay-home mom to three; he did his MBA at Columbia, then went on to be CFO of a decent sized oil & gas company, then co-founded a private equity group that then installed him as CEO of multiple acquisitions. They live in one of the ritziest neighborhoods in Dallas and have their 3 kids at one of the ritziest schools ($40k per kid per year). We just learned that they are not planning to send their eldest child (high school junior) to college. He thinks (and therefore she believes - let’s not pretend that she does any thinking of her own) that with the coming AI revolution, there just won’t be an ROI for the tuition cost. Instead, they’re going to send him to a trade school.
AYFKM?
They’re more worried about their own investment return than the quality of life for their own son. He’s going to spend the rest of his life unclogging other people’s toilets so that his parents can invest his college tuition money (which they have in petty cash) in some marginally legal AI-crypto pyramid scheme that has a better ROI (for the parents) instead.
Just straight up right-wing anti-intellectual populist bullshit. Their own son gets screwed, but at least they invested well. Fuck them all.
In case anyone needs a reminder of just how fucked up the right wing cultists are:
We caught up with my wife’s MAGA childhood friends (high school sweethearts) over Christmas. By any objective measure, they are ridiculously successful - she’s a stay-home mom to three; he did his MBA at Columbia, then went on to be CFO of a decent sized oil & gas company, then co-founded a private equity group that then installed him as CEO of multiple acquisitions. They live in one of the ritziest neighborhoods in Dallas and have their 3 kids at one of the ritziest schools ($40k per kid per year). We just learned that they are not planning to send their eldest child (high school junior) to college. He thinks (and therefore she believes - let’s not pretend that she does any thinking of her own) that with the coming AI revolution, there just won’t be an ROI for the tuition cost. Instead, they’re going to send him to a trade school.
AYFKM?
They’re more worried about their own investment return than the quality of life for their own son. He’s going to spend the rest of his life unclogging other people’s toilets so that his parents can invest his college tuition money (which they have in petty cash) in some marginally legal AI-crypto pyramid scheme that has a better ROI (for the parents) instead.
Just straight up right-wing anti-intellectual populist bullshit. Their own son gets screwed, but at least they invested well. Fuck them all.
Deutsche Gopher Fan
Active member
I mean, its really shitty to view your kid as an ROI like that.
but I think it's insane to say college education is for everybody
but I think it's insane to say college education is for everybody
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
I have no idea what blue collar life is like, but I spent 9 hours yesterday with an HVAC guy and a plumber doing maintenance and improvement work on our house, and they both seemed really happy.
OTOH, every person I know with a degree who spends their days in a cubicle as a screen-babysitter wants to kill themselves.
OTOH, every person I know with a degree who spends their days in a cubicle as a screen-babysitter wants to kill themselves.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Even after getting my BA, had I gone to a trade school to do HVAC work and hired on to a union company, I’d be in a much better financial position than I am now.
My brother, who held the master’s cert., that his employer paid for so they were allowed to work in Minneapolis and a host of suburbs that stated each company needed at least one person with his credentials to work in their cities, he was by far outstripping me financially. That was pre-unionization at that company. After they went union, he really started rolling in the cash. While his direct pay dropped a bit, all the benefits and pension more than offset the diminished wages.
He later went on to start his own company with a friend, a union shop, too, and he retired a multimillionaire. He is the true rags-to-riches story, making less than $2/hour at Perkin’s in the 70s, driving an old Chevette, etc., he never really came to understand the world beyond its direct impact on his life, nor did he try.
His level of success will not be my story, BUT, I do believe that getting my economics degree has improved my understanding of the world beyond the purely theoretical and principled-based teachings. It is lead me to be more critical in my views and decisions.
My brother, who held the master’s cert., that his employer paid for so they were allowed to work in Minneapolis and a host of suburbs that stated each company needed at least one person with his credentials to work in their cities, he was by far outstripping me financially. That was pre-unionization at that company. After they went union, he really started rolling in the cash. While his direct pay dropped a bit, all the benefits and pension more than offset the diminished wages.
He later went on to start his own company with a friend, a union shop, too, and he retired a multimillionaire. He is the true rags-to-riches story, making less than $2/hour at Perkin’s in the 70s, driving an old Chevette, etc., he never really came to understand the world beyond its direct impact on his life, nor did he try.
His level of success will not be my story, BUT, I do believe that getting my economics degree has improved my understanding of the world beyond the purely theoretical and principled-based teachings. It is lead me to be more critical in my views and decisions.
Agree, but nobody said that.
In the discussion, there was no consideration of whether college was “for him” or whether he would enjoy it or whether he would “succeed” (he would). Their entire thought process was, “Even if he applies himself and enjoys it and gains deep understanding, he’s still likely to end up in a $150k white collar job instead of a $100k blue collar job, so I’ll do something else with my $500k that will make me more money.”
The math isn’t wrong; it’s the worldview.