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The 2013 New England Patriots

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Its a pigpile of haters, I'm shocked that would happen in a Pats thread
Looked to me like another lineman crossed in front of him so maybe he wasn't on line of scrimmage? or he didn't get off on the snap and the other lineman did?

Can't wait to see it called again, maybe in the Superbowl with game on the line.

Supposedly NFL.com changed the wording on the rule right after the game.
 
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walrus said:
This team is going nowhere without Talib, Dennard is pretty good but they need Talib. You can lose Mayo as there are other young guys at LB but Talib is the key to the D. Brady looks old to me
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Agree 100%. I was watching Andrew Luck last night and how he can throw on the run and thinking d@mn I wish we had that here. Brady just has happy feet and is making too many bad decisions.
 
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walrus said:
Its a pigpile of haters, I'm shocked that would happen in a Pats thread
Looked to me like another lineman crossed in front of him so maybe he wasn't on line of scrimmage? or he didn't get off on the snap and the other lineman did?

Can't wait to see it called again, maybe in the Superbowl with game on the line.

Supposedly NFL.com changed the wording on the rule right after the game.
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I saw the issue about the wording of the rule being changed after the game too...was coming on here to check if anybody else saw that...if that isn't a hoax it is very interesting that they would re-word the rule after a game in which it was the deciding factor. The reason I suspect hoax is that the NFL shouldn't have its rules documents in a format that allows anyone to edit and publish them without multiple levels of control. So, nobody should have been able to go in on a Sunday and publish a new version of any rule...if that is what is being implied I first suspect hoax. If it wasn't a hoax then I would think Bob Kraft has already called Roger Badell...they should charge money to listen to that call and donate it to charity...we might cure a disease.
 
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Rover said:
Agree 100%. I was watching Andrew Luck last night and how he can throw on the run and thinking d@mn I wish we had that here. Brady just has happy feet and is making too many bad decisions.
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I also agree, but there are about 28 teams who'd be thrilled to have ol' Tom, happy feet and all as their QB. The prospect of some of them with this receiving corps is frightening.

re: the penalty

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...ngland-patriots-admits-was-wrong-play-penalty

"The Patriots had used the same play -- with the same two players (Jones looping behind Will Svitek) -- on the New Orleans Saints' 39-yard field goal on Oct. 13 with 2:24 remaining in the game. No penalty was called then."

Interesting.

So why wasn't it called in the New Orleans game?

Also, I assume that they don't do it on every FG attempt, only on critical ones. And if they do, one wonders if someone whispered in the ear of the official before the call. If they did, the Jets coaching staff is a lot smarter than they're given credit for (which I think is true, by the way. Rex is a buffoon with the press and he's done some really dumb things, but the man can coach D, and he hasn't had much talent to work with).

Whatever. Belichick is right. This one's on the coaching staff. Executing a play that has a small chance of success that risks a 15 yard penalty is bad coaching.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Don't push your teammate into the offensive line and take the risk it's going to be called. Just because it's never been called before doesn't mean it won't. It just means no one has either done it, or gotten caught doing it. Pats have no one to blame but themselves for that call.
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When I saw the original replay it didn't look like much but after seeing another angle of the play it was pretty obvious he was pushing his team mate. It's just surprising this was the first time it's been called all season.
 
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pirate said:
I saw the issue about the wording of the rule being changed after the game too...was coming on here to check if anybody else saw that...if that isn't a hoax it is very interesting that they would re-word the rule after a game in which it was the deciding factor. The reason I suspect hoax is that the NFL shouldn't have its rules documents in a format that allows anyone to edit and publish them without multiple levels of control. So, nobody should have been able to go in on a Sunday and publish a new version of any rule...if that is what is being implied I first suspect hoax. If it wasn't a hoax then I would think Bob Kraft has already called Roger Badell...they should charge money to listen to that call and donate it to charity...we might cure a disease.
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Hubris?
 
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In the postgame, it was mentioned that this type of play, along with video of examples, was gone over with league officials as a point of emphasis during the week prior to thew game. Apparently it wasn't being called, so the league wanted the officials to crack down on it.
 
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rufus said:
In the postgame, it was mentioned that this type of play, along with video of examples, was gone over with league officials as a point of emphasis during the week prior to thew game. Apparently it wasn't being called, so the league wanted the officials to crack down on it.
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And in the case with the NBA too, when they emphasize something it gets called, regardless of merit. Just like cops with quotas, the refs go out and do what they are told to do...doesn't matter if it was 5mph over on an empty street, speeding is speeding. Doesn't matter if everybody was going 60, I caught you.

Refs use their judgment on every play and don't call everything they see, if they were told to call more anything, they would because it is their job to do what the league asks them to do...and there is a Barney Fife or two out there that aren't comfortable enough in their jobs to use a little discretion and thus they call the new penalty "according to the statutes".
 
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When I saw the original replay it didn't look like much but after seeing another angle of the play it was pretty obvious he was pushing his team mate. It's just surprising this was the first time it's been called all season.
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Especially when folks are saying the Jets did it in this game. In the end its an L and Brady is a far bigger reason for the L than one penalty in OT.
 
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It's almost at the point where this would be enough. He was something like 4-20 on passes longer than ten yards.
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His accuracy hitting guys on long passes is slipping. And it seems the more likely they are to score, the more his throw is high or long.
 
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Crappy weekend for Boston sports so far. :mad: Pats better rescue it.
 
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