Kepler
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Re: The 2012 Presidential Election Part I - The guns of August
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The 2012 Presidential Election Part I - The guns of August
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Re: The 2012 Presidential Election Part I - The guns of August
Probably national ads? I've been seeing Obama ads in TX (though here it might at least be justified as a desire to get out the vote in areas where it could make a difference).
Probably national ads? I've been seeing Obama ads in TX (though here it might at least be justified as a desire to get out the vote in areas where it could make a difference).
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Re: The 2012 Presidential Election Part I - The guns of August
"The Ryan Plan: Tentacle Rape for the 21st Century."
"The Ryan Plan: Tentacle Rape for the 21st Century."
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You have more confidence in most of the posters here than I do.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The 2012 Presidential Election Part I - The guns of August
Paired with "The Homeroom TARP Spanking."
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I don't see the Tea Party mentioned in Boehner's comments.
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Funny story on Ryan and his investments (ie, he'll survive) from CNBC...
Ryan sold Wells Fargo stock on Jan. 14, 2008. The stock declined 6 percent that day, so if Ryan sold at the open he may not have done too badly. But based on the vast majority of buy/sell patterns, that’s probably unlikely. If I had to bet, I’d say he probably sold after the decline. In which case, he missed the rally that erased half the loss on January 15.
What’s more, he held onto his shares in Citigroup. When he finally unloaded part of his Citi position, on January 22, the stock was down 16 percent during that one-week interval. He also sold JPMorgan Chase, which had declined about 3 percent for the year.
That same day he bought Goldman Sachs, which had seen an 8 percent decline for the year. This was the opposite of good market timing. Over the next month, Goldman [GS 103.88 0.62 (+0.6%) ] fell by nearly 7 percent.
Meanwhile, the other stocks rose. Citi [C 28.8299 0.0599 (+0.21%) ] rose by around 3 percent. JPMorgan [JPM 37.131 0.031 (+0.08%) ] was up around 7 percent. And Wells Fargo [WFC 34.07 0.11 (+0.32%) ] climbed 16 percent.
So after that disastrous start to the year, Ryan changes his strategy and sells some Goldman and goes long Citi on February 22. What happens next? Yep. Citi crashes, falling by as much as 25 percent following the Bear Stearns calamity. A post-rescue rally brings it back up, so that by the time Ryan trades again in April, it’s down just 8 percent or so. Goldman winds up that month basically flat.
By the time March rolled around, it seems that Ryan must have felt that he was coming due for some trading success. He decides that this time he’s going to sell some Citi. Over the course of the next month, Citi rallies by more than 10 percent.
What are the odds that the market can move against him when he trades in April?
On April 24, Ryan buys Citi. Boom. Citi declines 16 percent before Ryan decides to trade again in June.
For some reason, he took the month of May off. Perhaps he just got confused about the market adage and decided to “stay away in May.” Had he kept to his usual pattern of alternating between buying and selling Citi, he could have sold in May and halved his losses in this stock. But this is Ryan’s portfolio, which means, apparently, that every trade in a bank stock has to be bad—even ones that he doesn’t make.
Funny story on Ryan and his investments (ie, he'll survive) from CNBC...
Ryan sold Wells Fargo stock on Jan. 14, 2008. The stock declined 6 percent that day, so if Ryan sold at the open he may not have done too badly. But based on the vast majority of buy/sell patterns, that’s probably unlikely. If I had to bet, I’d say he probably sold after the decline. In which case, he missed the rally that erased half the loss on January 15.
What’s more, he held onto his shares in Citigroup. When he finally unloaded part of his Citi position, on January 22, the stock was down 16 percent during that one-week interval. He also sold JPMorgan Chase, which had declined about 3 percent for the year.
That same day he bought Goldman Sachs, which had seen an 8 percent decline for the year. This was the opposite of good market timing. Over the next month, Goldman [GS 103.88 0.62 (+0.6%) ] fell by nearly 7 percent.
Meanwhile, the other stocks rose. Citi [C 28.8299 0.0599 (+0.21%) ] rose by around 3 percent. JPMorgan [JPM 37.131 0.031 (+0.08%) ] was up around 7 percent. And Wells Fargo [WFC 34.07 0.11 (+0.32%) ] climbed 16 percent.
So after that disastrous start to the year, Ryan changes his strategy and sells some Goldman and goes long Citi on February 22. What happens next? Yep. Citi crashes, falling by as much as 25 percent following the Bear Stearns calamity. A post-rescue rally brings it back up, so that by the time Ryan trades again in April, it’s down just 8 percent or so. Goldman winds up that month basically flat.
By the time March rolled around, it seems that Ryan must have felt that he was coming due for some trading success. He decides that this time he’s going to sell some Citi. Over the course of the next month, Citi rallies by more than 10 percent.
What are the odds that the market can move against him when he trades in April?
On April 24, Ryan buys Citi. Boom. Citi declines 16 percent before Ryan decides to trade again in June.
For some reason, he took the month of May off. Perhaps he just got confused about the market adage and decided to “stay away in May.” Had he kept to his usual pattern of alternating between buying and selling Citi, he could have sold in May and halved his losses in this stock. But this is Ryan’s portfolio, which means, apparently, that every trade in a bank stock has to be bad—even ones that he doesn’t make.
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So, you're saying that he apparently doesn't have the investing savy of Hillary Clinton who made those killer investments awhile back? I was expecting you to claim that somehow he did good on his investments and thus is in the pocket of Wall Street. Guess he forgot to tell his guys on Wall Street to move the stocks the right ways!
So, you're saying that he apparently doesn't have the investing savy of Hillary Clinton who made those killer investments awhile back? I was expecting you to claim that somehow he did good on his investments and thus is in the pocket of Wall Street. Guess he forgot to tell his guys on Wall Street to move the stocks the right ways!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The 2012 Presidential Election Part I - The guns of August
Boehner's statement implies that people who opposed the TARP are knuckledraggers. One of the articles of faith of the TP is that the TARP was bad -- they hang it around Obama's neck (half erroneously, since it began of course with Bush) all the time.
I guess the more correct statement would be that Boehner just called about the members of his own caucus, and their supporters who make up most of the ground troops of the GOP, cavemen.
I'm sure he'll walk it back almost immediately either with a Newtism ("quoting me directly is misquoting me") or a Mittism ("I never said that"), but it's hardly smart politics.
Here's Erick Erickson connecting the dots.
Boehner's statement implies that people who opposed the TARP are knuckledraggers. One of the articles of faith of the TP is that the TARP was bad -- they hang it around Obama's neck (half erroneously, since it began of course with Bush) all the time.
I guess the more correct statement would be that Boehner just called about the members of his own caucus, and their supporters who make up most of the ground troops of the GOP, cavemen.
I'm sure he'll walk it back almost immediately either with a Newtism ("quoting me directly is misquoting me") or a Mittism ("I never said that"), but it's hardly smart politics.
Handyman
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Re: The 2012 Presidential Election Part I - The guns of August
Maybe some of them/us want to act that way for a reason
Maybe some of them/us want to act that way for a reason
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Maybe we could take up a collection to get this boy to a clinic that specializes in OCD, stat.
Jim Geraghty had a good line this morning: "By September, the Obama campaign will be photoshopping Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan into Nuremberg rally phtotos." And when they do, you can guess who will slavishly post 'em here.
Maybe we could take up a collection to get this boy to a clinic that specializes in OCD, stat.
Jim Geraghty had a good line this morning: "By September, the Obama campaign will be photoshopping Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan into Nuremberg rally phtotos." And when they do, you can guess who will slavishly post 'em here.
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Have we ever thanked you sufficiently for your "balanced" observations and tutorials? If anybody is the East German diving judge of these threads, it's you, pal. Concerns about Michelle Malkin's "excretions" from the guy who lives, breathes and regurgitates Wonkette 24/7. Don't be a "retard," and don't treat us like "retards," either.
Have we ever thanked you sufficiently for your "balanced" observations and tutorials? If anybody is the East German diving judge of these threads, it's you, pal. Concerns about Michelle Malkin's "excretions" from the guy who lives, breathes and regurgitates Wonkette 24/7. Don't be a "retard," and don't treat us like "retards," either.
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I still haven't quite figured out why it's okay for airlines to require that people show a photo ID to board an airplane but it's "controversial" to ask voters to show a photo ID to vote, especially when states provide photo ID cards for free!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...4.html?mod=WSJ_hpsMIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond
In many places, public libraries also require a photo ID to get a library card. Where's Eric Holder on this issue? Obviously librarians are trying to keep the minority population illiterate! Sue them all, Eric!
I still haven't quite figured out why it's okay for airlines to require that people show a photo ID to board an airplane but it's "controversial" to ask voters to show a photo ID to vote, especially when states provide photo ID cards for free!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...4.html?mod=WSJ_hpsMIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond
In many places, public libraries also require a photo ID to get a library card. Where's Eric Holder on this issue? Obviously librarians are trying to keep the minority population illiterate! Sue them all, Eric!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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Voter fraud is a myth with no historical support. Voter intimidation is a fact with tons of historical support.
Probably because it's not a fundamental right to board an airplane.
Voter fraud is a myth with no historical support. Voter intimidation is a fact with tons of historical support.
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Try pedaling that balderdash to someone who didn't grow up in Chicagoland during the Daley I regime.
Dems try anything to pad the outcome in certain, reliable precincts. For instance, when the so-called "provisional" ballot emerged from the Florida kerfuffle in 2000, Democrats suggested that people whose registrations, citizenship or criminal status were unclear should be bussed to one, central precinct, to cast these "provisional" ballots. If approved, that would give these human derelicts a perk no other voters have: to vote in one central precinct, rather than the one in which they are registered. It's much more efficient to just shove busloads of skid row types into one precinct, rather than having to go through all that bother to check to see if they're registered at all, let alone in the precinct in which they claim to reside.
A Daley favorite was to have phony poll watchers at those reliable precincts (wouldn't want anyone to actually witness what was going on). So the Republican poll watcher would show up with his credentials only to be told "the Republican is already here." A "discussion" would ensue, frequently a cop would show up, and the genuine poll watcher arrested. Later that night, after the polls closed, apologies issued to the real poll watcher: "Mistakes happen." Yeah, year, after year, after year.
Besides, it's "forever Selma," isn't it? In addition to being stupid, Republicans are also racists.
Try pedaling that balderdash to someone who didn't grow up in Chicagoland during the Daley I regime.
Dems try anything to pad the outcome in certain, reliable precincts. For instance, when the so-called "provisional" ballot emerged from the Florida kerfuffle in 2000, Democrats suggested that people whose registrations, citizenship or criminal status were unclear should be bussed to one, central precinct, to cast these "provisional" ballots. If approved, that would give these human derelicts a perk no other voters have: to vote in one central precinct, rather than the one in which they are registered. It's much more efficient to just shove busloads of skid row types into one precinct, rather than having to go through all that bother to check to see if they're registered at all, let alone in the precinct in which they claim to reside.
A Daley favorite was to have phony poll watchers at those reliable precincts (wouldn't want anyone to actually witness what was going on). So the Republican poll watcher would show up with his credentials only to be told "the Republican is already here." A "discussion" would ensue, frequently a cop would show up, and the genuine poll watcher arrested. Later that night, after the polls closed, apologies issued to the real poll watcher: "Mistakes happen." Yeah, year, after year, after year.
Besides, it's "forever Selma," isn't it? In addition to being stupid, Republicans are also racists.
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BCeagle
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Maybe not, but if his fiscal policies are enacted, the middle class, poor, and elderly are screwed. It's almost like a death sentence for these people that these politicians supposedly work for.
Now, they're flip flopping on whose plan they're talking about. Ryan or Romney plan when the media ask them questions. How about Mrs. Romney admitting that if they open up their finances, they're afraid of opening a can of worms. Nothing to hide???
The GOP is on the defensive when they are asked straight questions and the image they project is not positive. They evade the question asked or talk over you in their usual tactics. The fact of the matter is, the GOP cares only about making Obama a 1-term president and will do anything to make him look bad and block any progressive legislation. They don't want to compromise on anything, their attitude is, it's my way or the highway on budget matters.
Maybe not, but if his fiscal policies are enacted, the middle class, poor, and elderly are screwed. It's almost like a death sentence for these people that these politicians supposedly work for.
Now, they're flip flopping on whose plan they're talking about. Ryan or Romney plan when the media ask them questions. How about Mrs. Romney admitting that if they open up their finances, they're afraid of opening a can of worms. Nothing to hide???
The GOP is on the defensive when they are asked straight questions and the image they project is not positive. They evade the question asked or talk over you in their usual tactics. The fact of the matter is, the GOP cares only about making Obama a 1-term president and will do anything to make him look bad and block any progressive legislation. They don't want to compromise on anything, their attitude is, it's my way or the highway on budget matters.
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If voter fraud was truly a myth, there would be no reason for anyone to oppose showing a photo ID to vote.
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Dream on. The Ryan plan proposes to restore the 700 Billion His Wonderfulness has already cut from Medicare. "Almost like a death sentence" eh? Whatever happened to His Newtoneness' promises about sticking to the high road? Could it possibly be that he and his surrogates have concluded they can't run on his record? The flip side of wanting His Oneness to be a one term president is the desire to do anything, say anything to get him re-elected. That's better? That's politics. And like the man said, it ain't beanbag.
And all of this "progressive legislation" is laid out in the Senate budget proposals. Wait. How many years has it been since they've submitted one?
As to Romney's tax returns, all they will provide is more ammunition to pander and demagogue to low information voters. I've proposed a trade: Romney's tax returns for His Panderness' transcripts. What do you say?
Dream on. The Ryan plan proposes to restore the 700 Billion His Wonderfulness has already cut from Medicare. "Almost like a death sentence" eh? Whatever happened to His Newtoneness' promises about sticking to the high road? Could it possibly be that he and his surrogates have concluded they can't run on his record? The flip side of wanting His Oneness to be a one term president is the desire to do anything, say anything to get him re-elected. That's better? That's politics. And like the man said, it ain't beanbag.
And all of this "progressive legislation" is laid out in the Senate budget proposals. Wait. How many years has it been since they've submitted one?
As to Romney's tax returns, all they will provide is more ammunition to pander and demagogue to low information voters. I've proposed a trade: Romney's tax returns for His Panderness' transcripts. What do you say?
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This will be reported by the MSM as the new "positive" approach.
This will be reported by the MSM as the new "positive" approach.