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The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

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Apparently 62% of Republicans still think the Iraq War was a good idea so maybe his candidacy has some legs! Should be funny to watch him and Paul go at it while everyone else on stage stands by with an awkward look on their race not wanting to touch the Iraq subject with a 10 foot pole.

Regime change is a fragile thing. Few administrations get it right.

Sometimes the devil you know is better than the angel you don't.
 
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You do know that there will be another attack within the next few months (false flag of course), and Rand Paul will be blamed for it based on his desire to expire the PATRIOT Act.

You mention this so much that I get the sense you actually want an attack to happen, so that you and the rest of the nuts can scream "FALSE FLAG, I TOLD YOU SO!" That's pretty sick.
 
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You mention this so much that I get the sense you actually want an attack to happen, so that you and the rest of the nuts can scream "FALSE FLAG, I TOLD YOU SO!" That's pretty sick.

Oh right, like I want awful things to happen to this country for the express purpose of vindication. I'm not a politician. :rolleyes:
 
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I have to give credit where credit is due. Even if he's purely doing this to bolster his campaign, it was a ballsy move to own the expiration of the Patriot Act. The guy is still nuts, but he's now made it safe to question the Patriot Act without having your patriotism questioned unless a move is underway to start doing that now...:eek:

He'll be a hero to me if he can force a significant change in the law. It's been 14 years -- enough money's been made; time to come out from under the bed. Terrorism is criminality, not national defense. Disembowel the post 9/11 structures, create a new classification of criminal law with appropriate powers for law enforcement, and stop the charade.
 
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You mention this so much that I get the sense you actually want an attack to happen, so that you and the rest of the nuts can scream "FALSE FLAG, I TOLD YOU SO!" That's pretty sick.

Party foul. Don't accuse board members of being pundits or elected officials.

The assumption here should be that everybody's playing it straight. ( Even the shills. :) )
 
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And here it is.

"I've got one simple message: I have more experience with our national security than any other candidate in this race. That includes you, Hillary," Graham said in Central, South Carolina, his childhood home.

I guess war mongering counts as experience.
 
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He is/was a member of the National Guard, FWIW.

Though was Churchill a war mongerer or a prophet?

National Guard? That's more experience in National Security than Secretary of State?

Whatever.
 
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Foreign relations goes to Clinton and it ain't close.
National security is probably 60:40 Graham. Probably closer than that since I don't have their detailed resumes in front of me.

But it doesn't matter because A) He's posturing. B) That small part of his resume is dwarfed by the amount of derp smeared over the rest of his resume.
 
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/mitch-mcconnell-obama-judges_n_7515820.html

This is criminal and shows how irresponsible Republicans are. 99% of our problem with current law is because it all goes unenforced. Hamstringing the Courts perpetuates that. You want to know why people want new gun laws every time there is a Sandy Hook? It's because our system does not have the capacity to enforce the laws we do have.

Just another Republican strategy that appears to be working flawlessly. Starve the Legislative Branch, Starve the Judiciary. The only thing they need now is the Presidency which sits at it's highest power point since the Country was founded.
 
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/mitch-mcconnell-obama-judges_n_7515820.html

This is criminal and shows how irresponsible Republicans are. 99% of our problem with current law is because it all goes unenforced. Hamstringing the Courts perpetuates that. You want to know why people want new gun laws every time there is a Sandy Hook? It's because our system does not have the capacity to enforce the laws we do have.

Just another Republican strategy that appears to be working flawlessly. Starve the Legislative Branch, Starve the Judiciary. The only thing they need now is the Presidency which sits at it's highest power point since the Country was founded.

The branches are not starved. In fact, it's quite the opposite. How many pieces of legislation in the last 15 years, would you say, have been at least 200 pages in length? There are so many laws on the books that people can't keep track of them, so they think they have to create laws (not to mention, status quo doesn't get you into the history books). I'm sure every single person that reads this post will break the law within the next hour, because there are too many laws, some of which are direct opposites so if you end up in a situation, you have no choice but to break the law.

Also, many of the laws may have one concept in mind, but are executed in another way. You wanted gun control after Columbine? Then why did the next shooting happen? Oh, that's right, because your gun laws only made law-abiding citizens defenceless. Criminals do not obey laws, and that is by definition. You need to account for that.
 
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Slow walking judicial nominations does nothing to address any of the things you are talking about. This is just machine politics.

If this kind of crap keeps up we may as well go to a parliamentary system, because any time the president and the Senate are of different parties nothing will get done. 95% of the United States' problems are self-inflicted by its party system.
 
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Slow walking judicial nominations does nothing to address any of the things you are talking about. This is just machine politics.

If this kind of crap keeps up we may as well go to a parliamentary system, because any time the president and the Senate are of different parties nothing will get done. 95% of the United States' problems are self-inflicted by its party system.

Perhaps that's exactly what the founding fathers wanted. When they're of the same party, we get dog**** legislation to remove freedoms, like the PATRIOT Act, the UIGEA, the PPACA, and the list goes on from there. The only true way to preserve freedom is to prevent an oppressive government from having the power to remove them.

And no, I won't drop that mud. :p
 
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Sauce for the goose? Harry pulling the same crap as Mitch, now.

Leaving aside whether sequestration should be eliminated (not sure) or whether the whole concept of the debt ceiling is moronic and should be eliminated (yes, obviously), this is the other side of the "I'll hold both our breaths and we'll asphyxiate together" coin. Between McConnell's judicial nominee blockade and Harry's spending bill blockade, we don't really have a government anyway. The anarchists win by default.
 
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Sauce for the goose? Harry pulling the same crap as Mitch, now.

Leaving aside whether sequestration should be eliminated (not sure) or whether the whole concept of the debt ceiling is moronic and should be eliminated (yes, obviously), this is the other side of the "I'll hold both our breaths and we'll asphyxiate together" coin. Between McConnell's judicial nominee blockade and Harry's spending bill blockade, we don't really have a government anyway. The anarchists win by default.

That should show you there's no difference. Both parties want to spend spend spend, but they only want to spend spend spend if it has their letter attached to it, and they'll do anything to make sure that other letter doesn't get on there. At the end of the day, though, both parties have zero fiscal discipline. If this were Sim City, they'd be ousted.
 
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Sauce for the goose? Harry pulling the same crap as Mitch, now.

Leaving aside whether sequestration should be eliminated (not sure) or whether the whole concept of the debt ceiling is moronic and should be eliminated (yes, obviously), this is the other side of the "I'll hold both our breaths and we'll asphyxiate together" coin. Between McConnell's judicial nominee blockade and Harry's spending bill blockade, we don't really have a government anyway. The anarchists win by default.

I always wondered what the F Itch was thinking. IMHO a lot of conservatives still think they're dealing with 60's era hippy liberals who want to bring flowers to a gun fight. Those libs are by and large long gone, and we'd rather fight fire with fire. Useless Harry Reid must be trying to go out with a bang, but I would hold up Senate business until he grants a vote on judicial nominations. They don't have to approve them, and in fact if Senators vote the party line they won't, but the notion that will a year and half left in a Presidential term the Senate has unilaterally decided nobody no matter their bipartisan support or qualifications will get a vote is asinine.
 
That should show you there's no difference. Both parties want to spend spend spend, but they only want to spend spend spend if it has their letter attached to it, and they'll do anything to make sure that other letter doesn't get on there. At the end of the day, though, both parties have zero fiscal discipline. If this were Sim City, they'd be ousted.
Patience, Grasshopper. The Day of Reckoning is nearer than what you think!
 
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